Paul Taylor on sun 4 feb 01
Dear All
This is a off shoot from the art history post.
Lectures make me tense. I loose the thread and get bored. If they are
accompanied by slides I go to sleep . Show me a slide and I'm asleep -
better than mandies (Mogadon).
However I discovered a painless way to study art history. I read
biographies (novel style) of artists. Some are a bit fancy full but all the
better . And as a by product of a good read you get educated.
You do not have to read every artist just one from each period because
since all the arts and artists are related you will get the names of his or
her associates, with a mention of their techniques ,historical,
philosophical and physiological context .
And if you are lucky a few sexy pages thrown in.
Regards from Paul Taylor
http://www.anu.ie/westportpottery
ps There are some things like ceamics not covered by this methodology I
suppose I will have to stay awake for them.
> From: Karen Sullivan
> Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:37:41 -0800
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: art history
>
> So okay guys, I've listened to the discussion about
> art history...............
>
> First of all, I can appreciate that much of the
> discussion is really about how different the
> academic mind functions from the intuitive/
> artistic thought process.
> Art historians function to guide us in the value,
> and relevance/ interpretation of art objects.
>
> I think Art History is in large part an
> appreciation of HISTORY...and context...
> And to do an admirable job, one needs an
> academic/linear/fact based relationship to
> the world. All of which I admire for the
> specific skills of art historians in placing
> work and ideas within the framework of time/ and the
> nature of the ideas and mindset that allowed
> their creation.
>
> So the making of art is another process
> entirely...eh, what???
> But I think it is important to consider the
> range of issues that art historians discuss.
> Context...the nature of the ideas....
>
> Unless you are making a chip 'n dip, in
> which case who cares about the political/historical/
> social issues your are alluding to.
> Or the pressing issues of the times in which
> you inhabit. Although it is perhaps a potent
> response you are making to the world my spending
> your time making chip 'n dips...
>
> I hope that the art historians
> who discuss our times have the perception to be able
> to respond and record our participation in the
> human drama of history.
> Perhaps, by being unfamiliar with process allows for
> an objective response/evaluation of the object's ability
> to communicate the idea without any consideration of
> the material requirements of it's creation.
>
> bamboo karen
>
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dayton j grant on mon 5 feb 01
i got all my art education from the oral tradition ,which is not such a
mass medium but it allows for the discretion of the teacher on an
individual basis,for example, in situations where a given student needs
more lessons in ethics before further training in the art of persuasion.i
think the key to being a responsible teacher is a balance between
keeping the students interest without giving them the means to do
unintentional harm and when they have displayed an aptitude and a desire
to be initiated into the higher levels of the arts and you are pretty
sure they wont do intentional harm then you bless them with the knowledge
they seek ....but we have too many fake teachers who promise a higher
level of education when they are incapable of it themselves ,this has
given artists some negative stereotypes such as witches ,tricksters and
bums over the centuries but i think with the increased speed and accuracy
of communication via the internet i think we are going to have a new wave
of good information that is going to wash all the phonies off the
rock.....and youre right we have to come up with some more interesting
and efficient ways to teach art history .. the arts and sciences are
interdependant and a lacking education in either is a shame if not
dangerous to us all .... on a lighter note ,lets fingerpaint
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