Marni Turkel on thu 9 nov 00
I am (perpetually) glaze testing and was considering trying nickel to
modify a glaze color. But before I do, I wanted to run this by the vast
store of knowledge on Clayart.
About 15 years ago I started becoming very sensitive to wearing jewelry
(earrings especially) other than gold or silver and was told I had
developed an allergy to the nickel in the non-precious metals. I was
wondering if anyone had any information or experience with this,
specifically any sensitivity or allergic reactions to ingredients in raw
glazes. For atleast 10 years I have used two Mason stains that contain
nickel with no problems at all. I wonder about the possible differences in
exposure from nickel oxide or carbonate added to a glaze as opposed to
being incorporated in a stain.
Thank you
Marni
Marni Turkel
Stony Point Ceramic Design
2080 Llano Rd 1B
Santa Rosa, CA 95407
Pottery: 707-579-5567
Office: 707-579-9511
Fax: 707-579-1116
Jim Cullen on fri 10 nov 00
Marni,
Find yourself a practioner in BioSET (www.allergy2000.com) or
NAET(www.naet.com) and get yourself checked for allergies to any or all of
your colorants, even your clays. These techniques can "cure" you of your
allergies and allow you to continue to work with them without any reactions.
It works.
KEEP CENTERED
Cullen
Naperville, Illinois
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marni Turkel"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 9:47 PM
Subject: Allergy to nickel
> I am (perpetually) glaze testing and was considering trying nickel to
> modify a glaze color. But before I do, I wanted to run this by the vast
> store of knowledge on Clayart.
>
> About 15 years ago I started becoming very sensitive to wearing jewelry
> (earrings especially) other than gold or silver and was told I had
> developed an allergy to the nickel in the non-precious metals. I was
> wondering if anyone had any information or experience with this,
> specifically any sensitivity or allergic reactions to ingredients in raw
> glazes. For atleast 10 years I have used two Mason stains that contain
> nickel with no problems at all. I wonder about the possible differences in
> exposure from nickel oxide or carbonate added to a glaze as opposed to
> being incorporated in a stain.
>
> Thank you
> Marni
>
> Marni Turkel
> Stony Point Ceramic Design
> 2080 Llano Rd 1B
> Santa Rosa, CA 95407
>
> Pottery: 707-579-5567
> Office: 707-579-9511
> Fax: 707-579-1116
>
>
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Ababi Sharon on fri 10 nov 00
Some years ago, There was a movie, of the BBC, about the life of an Albanian
doctor, through his stories we learnt some facts about that
isolated(communist) country that her leaders explained to their people about
the bad life in the corrupted capitalist world. Many of the people , he had
to try and help, worked in Nickel mines. None of them died from old age
desises they did not reach old age!
Of coarse, we are not exposed to the nickel that much, but certainly this is
not a "cool" material.
Ababi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ababi Sharon"
To:
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Fwd: Allergy to nickel
>
>
>
> >From: Marni Turkel
> >Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >Subject: Allergy to nickel
> >Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:47:45 -0800
> >
> >I am (perpetually) glaze testing and was considering trying nickel to
> >modify a glaze color. But before I do, I wanted to run this by the vast
> >store of knowledge on Clayart.
> >
> >About 15 years ago I started becoming very sensitive to wearing jewelry
> >(earrings especially) other than gold or silver and was told I had
> >developed an allergy to the nickel in the non-precious metals. I was
> >wondering if anyone had any information or experience with this,
> >specifically any sensitivity or allergic reactions to ingredients in raw
> >glazes. For atleast 10 years I have used two Mason stains that contain
> >nickel with no problems at all. I wonder about the possible differences
in
> >exposure from nickel oxide or carbonate added to a glaze as opposed to
> >being incorporated in a stain.
> >
> >Thank you
> >Marni
> >
> >Marni Turkel
> >Stony Point Ceramic Design
> >2080 Llano Rd 1B
> >Santa Rosa, CA 95407
> >
> >Pottery: 707-579-5567
> >Office: 707-579-9511
> >Fax: 707-579-1116
> >
>
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DEBBYGrant@AOL.COM on fri 10 nov 00
Dear Marni,
I too have a skin allergy to nickel which I developed over twenty years
ago. I had to trade in my metal expanding watch strap for a leather
one and also cannot wear costume jewelry which does not bother me
a bit. I rarely use nickel as a colorant but I doubt that it would have
much affect on me. The allergy only causes mild skin irritation with
itching and only at the contact site. I have managed to reach 72 years
without overly worrying about these things. Just don't wear costume
jewelry and you'll be fine.
Debby Grant in NH
Snail Scott on fri 10 nov 00
>To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List >
>From: Snail Scott
>Subject: Re: Allergy to nickel
>In-Reply-To:
>
>
>Copper and zinc sensitivities are more common, I think. Cheap jewelry
>often contains these metals, too.
>
>I don't have much problem with this, but I've met several people who
>got rashes after dipping (elbow deep) in high-copper raku glazes, and
>one person who got a rash from a raw glaze containing zinc. Both these
>metals are pretty reactive, and may be the cause of your jewelry reaction.
>Nickel is (I think) somewhat less reactive, and may not be the cause at all.
>Even if you are sensitive to it, if you avoid skin contact with the raw
>(and wet) glaze, it shouldn't be a problem. Use gloves to dip, or brush
>your glazes.
>
> -Snail
>
>
>
>
>At 07:47 PM 11/9/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>I am (perpetually) glaze testing and was considering trying nickel to
>>modify a glaze color. But before I do, I wanted to run this by the vast
>>store of knowledge on Clayart.
>>
>>About 15 years ago I started becoming very sensitive to wearing jewelry
>>(earrings especially) other than gold or silver and was told I had
>>developed an allergy to the nickel in the non-precious metals. I was
>>wondering if anyone had any information or experience with this,
>>specifically any sensitivity or allergic reactions to ingredients in raw
>>glazes. For atleast 10 years I have used two Mason stains that contain
>>nickel with no problems at all. I wonder about the possible differences in
>>exposure from nickel oxide or carbonate added to a glaze as opposed to
>>being incorporated in a stain.
>>
>>Thank you
>>Marni
>>
>>Marni Turkel
>>Stony Point Ceramic Design
>>2080 Llano Rd 1B
>>Santa Rosa, CA 95407
>>
>>Pottery: 707-579-5567
>>Office: 707-579-9511
>>Fax: 707-579-1116
>>
>>__________________________________________________________________________
____
>>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>>
>>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>>
Snail Scott on fri 10 nov 00
Copper and zinc sensitivities are more common, I think. Cheap jewelry
often contains these metals, too.
I don't have much problem with this, but I've met several people who
got rashes after dipping (elbow deep) in high-copper raku glazes, and
one person who got a rash from a raw glaze containing zinc. Both these
metals are pretty reactive, and may be the cause of your jewelry reaction.
Nickel is (I think) somewhat less reactive, and may not be the cause at all.
Even if you are sensitive to it, if you avoid skin contact with the raw
(and wet) glaze, it shouldn't be a problem. Use gloves to dip, or brush
your glazes.
-Snail
At 07:47 PM 11/9/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I am (perpetually) glaze testing and was considering trying nickel to
>modify a glaze color. But before I do, I wanted to run this by the vast
>store of knowledge on Clayart.
>
>About 15 years ago I started becoming very sensitive to wearing jewelry
>(earrings especially) other than gold or silver and was told I had
>developed an allergy to the nickel in the non-precious metals. I was
>wondering if anyone had any information or experience with this,
>specifically any sensitivity or allergic reactions to ingredients in raw
>glazes. For atleast 10 years I have used two Mason stains that contain
>nickel with no problems at all. I wonder about the possible differences in
>exposure from nickel oxide or carbonate added to a glaze as opposed to
>being incorporated in a stain.
>
>Thank you
>Marni
>
>Marni Turkel
>Stony Point Ceramic Design
>2080 Llano Rd 1B
>Santa Rosa, CA 95407
>
>Pottery: 707-579-5567
>Office: 707-579-9511
>Fax: 707-579-1116
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
___
>Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
>settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
melpots@pclink.com.
>
Janet Kaiser on sat 11 nov 00
I am concerned that some think nickel cannot or
is less likely to be a problem material. Nickel
has been banned from use in many metal products
in the UK. It has put a stop to gold plating
onto nickel alloy bases for jewellery. Also
silver plated nickel and nickel-chrome cutlery
is now on the black list. Junk and antique shops
should not sell scratched second hand "silver"
cutlery anymore. Although government has woken
up to health and safety issues, there must be
quite a weighty reason for legislation like
this. It is not just because ladies cannot wear
ear rings anymore. BTW my grandmother suddenly
became allergic to gold, so precious metals can
also be a problem.
A friend who makes windchimes from recycled
cutlery is very ill. She started with a feeling
of pins-and-needles in her hands and feet. Then
numbness, which was so bad she could not drive.
Then walking became difficult. Although her
doctor poo-poohed the idea these symptoms could
be related to the metals she uses, he eventually
did a blood test, which "did not show anything".
Now her doctor does not know what the lumps are
which were removed from her abdomen and chest.
Many of her friends have the feeling (I stress
in the absence of a satisfactory scientific
explanation or medical diagnosis) that it is at
least in part from Anne's high exposure to old
cutlery over a period of several years. This
sort of exposure is extreme. A potter would not
experience the same, even if they bathed in a
glaze. But it is well worth noting.
Please use extreme caution in using all
materials. They are all potentially allergenic
and many are toxic. Especially now people are
apparently becoming more likely to react to any
number of substances, chemicals, foods, etc. The
theory in the UK at the moment, is that our
immune systems are overloaded with all the
chemicals in our environment. A veritable
chemical cocktail. Just look under your sink, in
the bathroom, around the house, also the
workshop, garage, garden shed, etc.
Remove as many unwanted substances as you can.
Maybe if you do that, you reduce the likelihood
of developing an allergy to a specific
substance: metaphorically speaking "the one that
broke the camel's back". Or your reaction could
be less violent? I am no scientist, but it makes
sense to me.
Janet Kaiser - Not flooded here in Criccieth
thanks, but surrounded by floods and getting
more depressed by the day... Summer was cold and
wet, but this is just atrocious. So would you
please stop sending these huge volumes of water
across the Atlantic, so we can get on digging
The Path? And whilst you are doing something to
cheer me up... Please tell the UK media I do not
want to hear another word about the US
elections. It is driving me nuts. But at least
it will shut up the UK republicans for a bit...
Shows all us nasty English imperialist
Neanderthals what a really nifty thing a
constitutional monarchy actually is. It saves us
billions! And the one at the top is not allowed
to make a single political statement ever! What
luxury!
Wet, wet, wet. Yack, yack, yack. God save the
Queen!
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