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livelycooperativeteapots

updated wed 27 sep 00

 

Paulaclay@AOL.COM on sun 24 sep 00


Several years ago my (adult) professional clay group started a program, which
I later named Team Teapots. Each member makes several versions of a different
body part before a meeting. We use the same clay body and an agreed upon
opening size so all the lids are interchangeable. We keep the parts moist and
bring them to one of our studios where we assemble them usually in teams of
2-3. The results are totally unpredictable and very lively. I have used this
project with advanced ceramics students in high school and they love it.
After building a team teapot, they tell me they have the courage to tackle
one of their own, which they all do. In both cases the team teapots are sold,
with the money usually donated to charity. Team teapots received the
Celebration of Excellence award from the CT Education Department. Paula
Sibrack Marian, in the woods of Sherman, CT

John Baymore on mon 25 sep 00


........which I later named Team Teapots. Each member makes several=

versions of a different body part before a meeting. We use the same clay
body and an agreed upon opening size so all the lids are interchangeable.=

We keep the parts moist and bring them to one of our studios where we
assemble them usually in teams of 2-3. =



Good one.

Another variation on this that I use is to have the same preliminary
pre-made parts setup as you mention.....but do a "draw numbers" approach
for each person to select a lid / spout / handle / body element out of th=
e
common pile (each part has a number) and then individually utilize them t=
o
make a finished tepot. Good for breaking people out of preconcieved
approaches.


Also a useful exercise for advanced students is the 5 minute teapot. You=

have 5 minutes to make an assembled thrown or handbuilt teapot........ =

(Ruthann Tudball would be right at home ) We're not worried about
joining issues and such......... these won't be fired.

Run this problem in sequence over and over and over. Keep the results ea=
ch
time. In an hour you'll have about 10 teapots pp sitting there. The fir=
st
few will typically be a bit abortive....but they'll get the hang of it. =

Then have each person select what they felt is the most sucessful form, a=
nd
share why they think this is so. Then share the one thing they would
change about this particualr form they have selected. Then have them tak=
e
all the time they need to remake this piece resolving any minor issues in=

order to be finish fired.


Best,

....................john

John Baymore
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Diane Mead on mon 25 sep 00


This reminds me of a point that students mentioned recently--they love to
work cooperatively in other areas, but claim they hate it in art. They say
(consistently I hear over the years) that they want to create solo, and
share other art-related events. I love this teapot idea, and I wonder if I
students would learn to love cooperation via this method!
Anyone else haev thoughts on coopertaive works like this?
diane in ga.


>From: John Baymore
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: LivelyCooperativeTeapots
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:27:52 -0400
>
>........which I later named Team Teapots. Each member makes several
>versions of a different body part before a meeting. We use the same clay
>body and an agreed upon opening size so all the lids are interchangeable.
>We keep the parts moist and bring them to one of our studios where we
>assemble them usually in teams of 2-3.
>
>
>Good one.
>
>Another variation on this that I use is to have the same preliminary
>pre-made parts setup as you mention.....but do a "draw numbers" approach
>for each person to select a lid / spout / handle / body element out of the
>common pile (each part has a number) and then individually utilize

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Judith S. Labovitz on mon 25 sep 00


This is not the same thing, but an example of "cooperative" pots....for
several of our Empty Bowl events (Lansing Mich...greater lansing potters
guild)...we held 'bowl-a-thons' and made several hundred
bowls....potters who didn;t have the time (or whatever) left the bisqued
pots to be glazed by any Guild member who wanted to....the results were
great.....many folks were quite pleased with the method a co-potter
decorated and glazed their bowls. However, the pots were all being
donated to Empty Bowls, so there was no cash (to the potter) involved. and
therefore (I assume) less of an ego thing.

I'm not sure it would work as a general policy.......



At 02:10 PM 9/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
>This reminds me of a point that students mentioned recently--they love to
>work cooperatively in other areas, but claim they hate it in art. They say
>(consistently I hear over the years) that they want to create solo, and
>share other art-related events. I love this teapot idea, and I wonder if I
>students would learn to love cooperation via this method!
>Anyone else haev thoughts on coopertaive works like this?
>diane in ga.
>
>
>>From: John Baymore
>>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>>Subject: LivelyCooperativeTeapots
>>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:27:52 -0400
>>
>>........which I later named Team Teapots. Each member makes several
>>versions of a different body part before a meeting. We use the same clay
>>body and an agreed upon opening size so all the lids are interchangeable.
>>We keep the parts moist and bring them to one of our studios where we
>>assemble them usually in teams of 2-3.
>>
>>
>>Good one.
>>
>>Another variation on this that I use is to have the same preliminary
>>pre-made parts setup as you mention.....but do a "draw numbers" approach
>>for each person to select a lid / spout / handle / body element out of the
>>common pile (each part has a number) and then individually utilize
>
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Jeff Campana on tue 26 sep 00


This isn't "clayart, but quite possibly could become it:

My wonderful brilliant drawing prof. here at UW Whitewater has us do cooperative
drawings in the style of musical chairs. We all start a still life of the same
setup, and then after 5 minutes, rotate a spot. Then again and again. What we
end up with is some highly interesting drawings entailing all the artists' style
in some way or another. It also helps us loosen up because we aren't the only
ones associated with the drawing so it frees those nitpicky meticulous types.

This would be a wonderful thing to try in ceramics. You could have one person
throw, the next trim, then another to engobe, and then a glazer. Maybe just throw
a bunch, then pool them and pick pots at random to trim/engobe/glaze. would that
be a cool idea?

Jeff

"Judith S. Labovitz" wrote:

> This is not the same thing, but an example of "cooperative" pots....for
> several of our Empty Bowl events (Lansing Mich...greater lansing potters
> guild)...we held 'bowl-a-thons' and made several hundred
> bowls....potters who didn;t have the time (or whatever) left the bisqued
> pots to be glazed by any Guild member who wanted to....the results were
> great.....many folks were quite pleased with the method a co-potter
> decorated and glazed their bowls. However, the pots were all being
> donated to Empty Bowls, so there was no cash (to the potter) involved. and
> therefore (I assume) less of an ego thing.
>
> I'm not sure it would work as a general policy.......
>
> At 02:10 PM 9/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >This reminds me of a point that students mentioned recently--they love to
> >work cooperatively in other areas, but claim they hate it in art. They say
> >(consistently I hear over the years) that they want to create solo, and
> >share other art-related events. I love this teapot idea, and I wonder if I
> >students would learn to love cooperation via this method!
> >Anyone else haev thoughts on coopertaive works like this?
> >diane in ga.
> >
> >
> >>From: John Baymore
> >>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> >>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >>Subject: LivelyCooperativeTeapots
> >>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:27:52 -0400
> >>
> >>........which I later named Team Teapots. Each member makes several
> >>versions of a different body part before a meeting. We use the same clay
> >>body and an agreed upon opening size so all the lids are interchangeable.
> >>We keep the parts moist and bring them to one of our studios where we
> >>assemble them usually in teams of 2-3.
> >>
> >>
> >>Good one.
> >>
> >>Another variation on this that I use is to have the same preliminary
> >>pre-made parts setup as you mention.....but do a "draw numbers" approach
> >>for each person to select a lid / spout / handle / body element out of the
> >>common pile (each part has a number) and then individually utilize
> >
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Judith S. Labovitz on tue 26 sep 00


at Penland a long time ago we did a variation of this...each of us made
(extremely quickly...) a spout, body, handle and lid and placed them
on a table. We then marched around the table (to an actual march I believe
on the stereo), and selected one of each but never 2 from the same
pile. We quickly assembled the teapots and then had a parade...eventually
all Penland saw them...the pots were absolutely
fabulous...funny, quirky, lively...and of course, functionally
useless (they weren;t fired...it was our last day there)....but the
excitement, and delightful teapots....were a joy!!!




At 01:40 AM 9/26/00 -0500, Jeff Campana wrote:
>This isn't "clayart, but quite possibly could become it:
>
>My wonderful brilliant drawing prof. here at UW Whitewater has us do
>cooperative
>drawings in the style of musical chairs. We all start a still life of the
>same
>setup, and then after 5 minutes, rotate a spot. Then again and
>again. What we
>end up with is some highly interesting drawings entailing all the artists'
>style
>in some way or another. It also helps us loosen up because we aren't the only
>ones associated with the drawing so it frees those nitpicky meticulous types.
>
>This would be a wonderful thing to try in ceramics. You could have one person
>throw, the next trim, then another to engobe, and then a glazer. Maybe
>just throw
>a bunch, then pool them and pick pots at random to
>trim/engobe/glaze. would that
>be a cool idea?
>
>Jeff
>
>"Judith S. Labovitz" wrote:
>
> > This is not the same thing, but an example of "cooperative" pots....for
> > several of our Empty Bowl events (Lansing Mich...greater lansing potters
> > guild)...we held 'bowl-a-thons' and made several hundred
> > bowls....potters who didn;t have the time (or whatever) left the bisqued
> > pots to be glazed by any Guild member who wanted to....the results were
> > great.....many folks were quite pleased with the method a co-potter
> > decorated and glazed their bowls. However, the pots were all being
> > donated to Empty Bowls, so there was no cash (to the potter) involved. and
> > therefore (I assume) less of an ego thing.
> >
> > I'm not sure it would work as a general policy.......
> >
> > At 02:10 PM 9/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
> > >This reminds me of a point that students mentioned recently--they love to
> > >work cooperatively in other areas, but claim they hate it in art. They say
> > >(consistently I hear over the years) that they want to create solo, and
> > >share other art-related events. I love this teapot idea, and I wonder if I
> > >students would learn to love cooperation via this method!
> > >Anyone else haev thoughts on coopertaive works like this?
> > >diane in ga.
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: John Baymore
> > >>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
> > >>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> > >>Subject: LivelyCooperativeTeapots
> > >>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:27:52 -0400
> > >>
> > >>........which I later named Team Teapots. Each member makes several
> > >>versions of a different body part before a meeting. We use the same clay
> > >>body and an agreed upon opening size so all the lids are interchangeable.
> > >>We keep the parts moist and bring them to one of our studios where we
> > >>assemble them usually in teams of 2-3.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Good one.
> > >>
> > >>Another variation on this that I use is to have the same preliminary
> > >>pre-made parts setup as you mention.....but do a "draw numbers" approach
> > >>for each person to select a lid / spout / handle / body element out
> of the
> > >>common pile (each part has a number) and then individually utilize
> > >
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Diane Mead on tue 26 sep 00


Hi Judith, from Diane originally from Kalamazoo (yahoo
Michigan State)
This is great info for me, as we have a huge auction coming up.
Thanks. I hope you'll send us some of your cold weather! And any more co-op
ideas. I'll keep you posted on how
the 18 year olds fare with it!
diane, now in georgia, missing michigan--I wanna go home for a visit!


>From: "Judith S. Labovitz"
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: LivelyCooperativeTeapots
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:43:54 -0400
>
>This is not the same thing, but an example of "cooperative" pots....for
>several of our Empty Bowl events (Lansing Mich...greater lansing

>>


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Diane Mead on tue 26 sep 00


Here we go again! Another example of Clayart ruling the world!!!
I am going to use these next month, and adapt them for printmaking!!
You guys are the best.
Will be very interesting used for relief cuts and registering multiple block
prints!
Fantastic
diane, happy in Georgia


>From: "Judith S. Labovitz"
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: LivelyCooperativeTeapots
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:27:16 -0400
SNIPPING!~~~~~~~~
>
>At 01:40 AM 9/26/00 -0500, Jeff Campana wrote:
>>This isn't "clayart, but quite possibly could become it:
>>
>>My wonderful brilliant drawing prof. here at UW Whitewater has us do
>>cooperative
>>drawings in the style of musical chairs. We all start a still life of the
>>same
>>setup, and then after 5 minutes, rotate a spot. Then again and
>>again. What we
>>end up with is some highly interesting drawings entailing all the artists'
>>style
>>in some way or another. It also helps us loosen up because we aren't the
>>only
>>ones associated with the drawing so it frees those nitpicky meticulous
>>types.
>>
>>This would be a wonderful thing to try in ceramics. You could have one
>>person

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