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[re: standards for functional potters]&freedom

updated mon 3 jul 00


Earl Brunner on sun 2 jul 00

Nice one Elizabeth
As you pointed out when we fail to self govern/self control
our then the state will often step in, play big brother and
do it for us. This is not the preferred way. The state
NEVER does a good job, because the state is a bunch of
politicians (lawyers) influenced by special interest groups
up the kazoo.
Our founding fathers in this country (U.S.) established many
checks and balances in the system to protect us from the
excesses of a too powerful central government (that was what
the Revolutionary War was all about after all).
Unfortunately in the @00 plus years since we have allowed
that freedom to be eroded away, mostly in the name of
"safety" and "protection".
The problem is we don't really teach responsibility
anymore. In fact our courts are full of wrongdoers seeking
to avoid responsibility for their actions. They seek to
excuse their actions by trying to make themselves the
Don't buy into the idea that the state has to run our lives
for our protection, that scares the hell out of me.

priddy wrote:

> But freedom, unbalanced by resposibility, leads to irrational disorder, chaos.
> I don't care for chaos, myself. That is almost what we have now
> with regard to standards. Freedom has little value in and of itself.
> Randomness is the absolute extreme of freedom. Sometimes it is beautiful,
> mostly it is chaotic and not beautiful. The responsibility, unfortunately,
> frequently has to come from outside the individual, ie the state, due to the
> inherent unwillingness to give up freedom for order. The perfect system would
> somehow balance our freedom with responsibility appropriate to the
> circumstances of each case in question.

Earl Brunner