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re lana's dry engobe

updated tue 11 apr 00

 

Wade Blocker on sat 8 apr 00

Dear Ababi, Andy and Nancy,
Basically my problem with Lana's book is that I fire to cone 6 and do
not use low fire glazes. Also most of my glazes are either gloss or semi
gloss glazes, whereas Lana tends to favor matt glazes., which of course fit
her work very well. The bowl that Ababi suggested I not discard, has found
a home in the garbage can. It was impossible to salvage .I tried Mackersie
Copper which did not come out the way it looked in the photograph, so that
is presently undergoing a refiring with some of my tried and true glazes.
The Heino Render satin matt is a possibility for someone who likes matt
glazes, So that is also being refired, Blue Brocade.was the only glaze
that worked well but it is rather dull looking as far as I am concerned. I
had used Lana's suggestion for lichen glazes some years ago,when her
article appeared in Ceramics Monthly but I used Bell's recipe and Conrad's
engobe. Thank you for your suggestions. Mia in ABQ.

Sharon31 on sun 9 apr 00

Hello Mia!
there are several things and I will write part after part.
My (Inside the computer) teacher , Tony Hansen, says we must be careful from
textbooks and recipes we don't know what they are.Lana Wilson has her test
and you have yours.She writes sometime one thing and the opposite in the
same sentence, means:Think yourself, with or without, more or less.
In Israel, as much as I have seen, we use saucers instead of test bars.You
deep it holding in your hand.you get it half with and half without
glaze.After firing you can see the behavior of the glaze like in real life.

>
> Basically my problem with Lana's book is that I fire to cone 6 and do

I fire to ^6 too. That is why I was glad to learn from this book about the
possibolity to make crystaline glazes in this cone and started to work on
it.

> not use low fire glazes. Also most of my glazes are either gloss or semi
> gloss glazes, whereas Lana tends to favor matt glazes., which of course
fit
> her work very well. The bowl that Ababi suggested I not discard, has found
> a home in the garbage can. It was impossible to salvage .I tried Mackersie
> Copper which did not come out the way it looked in the photograph, so that

Do you ever expect anything to be like on a photograph?
Lana Wilson suggest to use lithium carbonate in hugh amonts, so?Do I have to
do it?
During the last year I bought several books. Each one of them paid itself
after learning one chapter!
You learn and do what good for you!
Good poting and good saucering(without disappointment)
Ababi

Wade Blocker on mon 10 apr 00



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> From: Sharon31
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: re Lana's dry engobe
> Date: Sunday, April 09, 2000 7:06 PM
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello Mia!
> there are several things and I will write part after part.
> My (Inside the computer) teacher , Tony Hansen, says we must be careful
from
> textbooks and recipes we don't know what they are.Lana Wilson has her
test
> and you have yours.She writes sometime one thing and the opposite in the
> same sentence, means:Think yourself, with or without, more or less.
> In Israel, as much as I have seen, we use saucers instead of test
bars.You
> deep it holding in your hand.you get it half with and half without
> glaze.After firing you can see the behavior of the glaze like in real
life.
>
> >
> > Basically my problem with Lana's book is that I fire to cone 6 and
do
>
> I fire to ^6 too. That is why I was glad to learn from this book about
the
> possibolity to make crystaline glazes in this cone and started to work
on
> it.
>
> > not use low fire glazes. Also most of my glazes are either gloss or
semi
> > gloss glazes, whereas Lana tends to favor matt glazes., which of course
> fit
> > her work very well. The bowl that Ababi suggested I not discard, has
found
> > a home in the garbage can. It was impossible to salvage .I tried
Mackersie
> > Copper which did not come out the way it looked in the photograph, so
that
>
> Do you ever expect anything to be like on a photograph?
> Lana Wilson suggest to use lithium carbonate in hugh amonts, so?Do I have
to
> do it?
> During the last year I bought several books. Each one of them paid itself
> after learning one chapter!
> You learn and do what good for you!
> Good poting and good saucering(without disappointment)
> Ababi



Dear Ababi,
Yes there are glaze recipes that work. eg. Carleton Ball and John W.
Conrad. In his book Contemporary Ceramic Formulas he has recipes for
crystal and crystalline matt glazes. However at the temperature that you
fire the results are for aventurine glazes, no large crystals but lots of
"flitters ". Also they are very toxic glazes. If you wish to fire at cone
8-l0 there are many recipes for the formation of large crystals.I'll be
happy to send you some.
I recall that you had a problem with borax not being soluble. Take some
of the water that will be mixed into your glaze and heat it, add the borax
and it will dissolve in the hot water, which you then add to your glaze.
Mia in ABQ