mel jacobson on fri 24 dec 99
well, it seems that customers really like them.
so, they have all been sold.
just the way it goes.
they were not seconds at all, just not whati intended.
they were made from my dirty porcelain, (20 percent
stoneware clay).
so, they actually were rather nice...for white bowls.
i do refire/but rarely have any good success.
the hammer is usually best.
mel/mn
http://www.pclink.com/melpots (website)
from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
gari whelon on sat 25 dec 99
hi Mel:
I've had some of that white shino out of the Tozan as well. I'm not sure
which shino offhand but I have usually had the same reaction as you but have
also found that people like them. There is a nice depth to the glaze, but it
doesnt exite me. In the last firing I had about 6 mug close together on a
lower outside shelf in the first chamber behind the fire box. Those on the
outside edge were toasty with red an peach flashes and some nice carbon
spots on the flame exposed side while the ones inside wer the dull white.
sSo add placement in the kiln to the mix of what it comes out like.
happy hlidays all
Gari Whelon
Proletariat Pots
Nanaimo B.C.
whelon@island.net
>From: mel jacobson
>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: white shino
>Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:29:23 EST
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>well, it seems that customers really like them.
>so, they have all been sold.
>just the way it goes.
>they were not seconds at all, just not what>i intended.
>they were made from my dirty porcelain, (20 percent
>stoneware clay).
>so, they actually were rather nice...for white bowls.
>
>i do refire/but rarely have any good success.
>
>the hammer is usually best.
>mel/mn
>
>http://www.pclink.com/melpots (website)
>from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
>
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Veronica Honthaas on sun 26 dec 99
In my last firing before Christmas, some of the shinos came out real pale,
creamy color (yuk!) but when you took the lid off the canisters the insides
were a deep and rich shino. So............I had figured that it was a lack
of reduction that caused the color problem. ??????????
At 12:07 PM 12/25/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>hi Mel:
>
>I've had some of that white shino out of the Tozan as well. I'm not sure
>which shino offhand but I have usually had the same reaction as you but have
>also found that people like them. There is a nice depth to the glaze, but it
>doesnt exite me. In the last firing I had about 6 mug close together on a
>lower outside shelf in the first chamber behind the fire box. Those on the
>outside edge were toasty with red an peach flashes and some nice carbon
>spots on the flame exposed side while the ones inside wer the dull white.
>sSo add placement in the kiln to the mix of what it comes out like.
>
>happy hlidays all
>
>Gari Whelon
>Proletariat Pots
>Nanaimo B.C.
>whelon@island.net
>
>
>>From: mel jacobson
>>Reply-To: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>>Subject: white shino
>>Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:29:23 EST
>>
>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>well, it seems that customers really like them.
>>so, they have all been sold.
>>just the way it goes.
>>they were not seconds at all, just not what>>i intended.
>>they were made from my dirty porcelain, (20 percent
>>stoneware clay).
>>so, they actually were rather nice...for white bowls.
>>
>>i do refire/but rarely have any good success.
>>
>>the hammer is usually best.
>>mel/mn
>>
>>http://www.pclink.com/melpots (website)
>>from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
>>
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mel jacobson on sun 9 jan 00
i have placed a picture of a wonderful pure white, shino, teabowl
on the clayart webpage.
third pot down.
i got this from a magazine that arrived yesterday.
i cannot read japanese, so cannot give credit.
mel.mn
http://www.pclink.com/melpots (website)
from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
John Britt on fri 10 jun 05
Mel,
You wrote: =93some experts believe it was the first truly white glaze." If
you specify that it was =93in Japan only=94 then I have no argument. But tha=
t
is not what I took from your post when I read it.
Also you wrote: "the crystal growth was amazing...and of course we got
many new colors. gold being one." You never specified that they were =93new=
colors to you=94. So I have no argument with that, but that is not what took=
from your post.
You also write: =93we are very happy with the gold crystal glazes. they do
not happen every day.=94 I would have to argue with this, (unless I have
read something wrong again) because, fortunately, they can and do happen
everyday, if you have the right recipe and firing protocols.
Sorry for the misunderstanding,
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
mel jacobson on fri 10 jun 05
my sources, including the work of Ryoji Kuroda in his book
Shino isbn 0-87011-2 claims that shino was considered the
first white glaze used in japan. (as early as 1460 )
there are other theories, i am sure.
i have quoted him in my article cm 12/2000.
of maybe, the two hundred shino bowls i have seen
in japan...most all were white, with iron markings on some.
on a rare occasion i saw gray. i do not think it is wrong,
in any way, to consider japanese shino white.
and, i have found new iron color for joe and me...it was never
said that it has never been done. it has all been done before.
we are very happy with the gold crystal glazes. they do not
happen every day.
mel
from mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
website: http://www.pclink.com/melpots
John Britt on tue 9 mar 10
I had someone ask me about a teabowl that they had from Jim Robinson in
Oregon. It had an iron wash and a thick white shino with finger streak ma=
=3D
rks.
Does anyone know the recipe for this glaze? I have his article on shino's=
=3D
and put some of the white shino recipes in my book, like snow cap shino,
mino, etc. but thought someone would know more precisely.
I am putting a similar piece on the blog but it is by Ken Matsuzaki:
http://ncclayclub.blogspot.com/
I, also think a Kuan glaze with zircopax would work but thought I could g=
=3D
et
him a little closer.=3D20
Thanks for your help,
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
Paul Herman on tue 9 mar 10
John,
I don't know of course, but it sounds as if it could be the one called
"whitehot" from Jim's shino article in the studio potter. We use that
one here and it's really interesting, high in alumina.
best,
Paul Herman
Great Basin Pottery
Doyle, California US
www.greatbasinpottery.com/
On Mar 9, 2010, at 1:20 PM, John Britt wrote:
> I had someone ask me about a teabowl that they had from Jim Robinson
> in
> Oregon. It had an iron wash and a thick white shino with finger
> streak marks.
>
> Does anyone know the recipe for this glaze? I have his article on
> shino's
> and put some of the white shino recipes in my book, like snow cap
> shino,
> mino, etc. but thought someone would know more precisely.
>
> I am putting a similar piece on the blog but it is by Ken Matsuzaki:
>
> http://ncclayclub.blogspot.com/
>
> I, also think a Kuan glaze with zircopax would work but thought I
> could get
> him a little closer.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> John Britt
> www.johnbrittpottery.com
John Britt on wed 10 mar 10
Thanks Paul.
Kent Harris posted the answer on the blog comments,
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3D3D6638497050839732163&postID=3D
=3D3D8325348885127547171
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
aaron cortelyou on wed 10 mar 10
Wow, that's pretty amazing. I'm frequently amazed by how esoteric some
people's practices are in this discipline. firing for over two weeks
in and out of reduction? Crazy.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:13 AM, John Britt wr=
ote:
> Thanks Paul.
>
> Kent Harris posted the answer on the blog comments,
>
> https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3D6638497050839732163&postID=3D8=
325348885127547171
>
> John Britt
> www.johnbrittpottery.com
>
Edouard Bastarache on wed 10 mar 10
Some white shinos :
Zirconium Silicate Shinos=3D20
http://zirconiumsilicate.blogspot.com/
Grey White Shinos :
http://greywhiteshino.blogspot.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/claycraft/9251262/
Alumina White Shino :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potier/167877176/=3D20
Gis,
Edouard Bastarache=3D20
Spertesperantisto (Lernu-Paris)
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
http://cerampeintures.blogspot.com/
http://albertpaintings.blogspot.com/
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/smart2000/index.htm
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "John Britt"
To: ;
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: White Shino
Thanks Paul.
Kent Harris posted the answer on the blog comments,
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3D3D6638497050839732163&postID=3D3=
D8=3D
325348885127547171
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
Lee Love on wed 10 mar 10
This is Mino Shino. No clay, alumina oxide. It is white when thick:
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
This pot is made with unrefined ohio fireclay, with ohio clay natural
grog and a little Saggar clay.
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi
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