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mel jacobson on mon 6 dec 99

it amazes me that firing big platters, plates on edge
is always the best for me.
when i would stack rim to foot, would lose about three
in every bisque.
now just stack them on edge.
never lose one.
just took out 15 big platters.
not a crack.
all fired on their rims...vertical.
mel/mn
http://www.pclink.com/melpots
from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.

gail sheffield on tue 7 dec 99

Would those of you who bisque fire plates, platters and tiles on end please
describe how you stack them in the kiln on end; i.e. absolutely vertical?
How do you bookend them, that is, make them stay upright? How do you deal
with irregular edged pieces? Any information will be appreciated.

Gail Sheffield
Covington, LA

Wendy Moore on tue 7 dec 99

Mel;

Are these stoneware platters? I am working primarily in porcelain and was
wondering if this technique would work on porcelain platters as well.

Wendy Moore >wendym@globalbiz.net
the apron lady

mel jacobson wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> it amazes me that firing big platters, plates on edge
> is always the best for me.
> when i would stack rim to foot, would lose about three
> in every bisque.
> now just stack them on edge.
> never lose one.
> just took out 15 big platters.
> not a crack.
> all fired on their rims...vertical.
> mel/mn
> http://www.pclink.com/melpots
> from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.

Frank Gaydos on tue 7 dec 99

Mel,
What is your definition of a 'big' platter?
Also, if they do not crack, how about warping?
Also, I assume you use stoneware clay?
Thanks
Frank Gaydos



Subject: bisque plates


> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> it amazes me that firing big platters, plates on edge
> is always the best for me.
> when i would stack rim to foot, would lose about three
> in every bisque.
> now just stack them on edge.
> never lose one.
> just took out 15 big platters.
> not a crack.
> all fired on their rims...vertical.
> mel/mn
> http://www.pclink.com/melpots
> from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
>

Catherine Jarosz on tue 7 dec 99

Hi Mel would you mind explaining how you bisque your plates and
platters vertical on the rim ??? I just can not visualize how this is
done ... explain in as easy terms as possible as I'm not real bright
LOL .......... thanks in advance cat

elizabeth priddy on tue 7 dec 99

does this vertical stacking cause any new
problem with the platters not sitting as flat,
warpage?
---
Elizabeth Priddy

email: epriddy@usa.net
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
Clay: 12,000 yrs and still fresh!





On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:55:45 mel jacobson wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>it amazes me that firing big platters, plates on edge
>is always the best for me.
>when i would stack rim to foot, would lose about three
>in every bisque.
>now just stack them on edge.
>never lose one.
>just took out 15 big platters.
>not a crack.
>all fired on their rims...vertical.
>mel/mn
>http://www.pclink.com/melpots
>from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
>


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Veronica Honthaas on tue 7 dec 99

Mel: Am i correct in assuming you are placing these in plate setters? I
just got some and am anxious to try them out.

Also: In my last few firings I experimented with Clayart suggestions for
glaze firing of large platters. Elevating the feet on chips of broken
shelving and placing sand on the shelf seemed to work equally well.......no
cracked bottoms. Next time I make some large platters I will try your
suggestion of making an air passage through the foot. Veronica

At 03:55 PM 12/6/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>it amazes me that firing big platters, plates on edge
>is always the best for me.
>when i would stack rim to foot, would lose about three
>in every bisque.
>now just stack them on edge.
>never lose one.
>just took out 15 big platters.
>not a crack.
>all fired on their rims...vertical.
>mel/mn
>http://www.pclink.com/melpots
>from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
>
>

ginny bivaletz on tue 7 dec 99

mel, i'm not understanding how those plates stand up
on their edges. are they leaning against other pots,
a plate stand or what? ginny from orcas island

--- mel jacobson wrote:
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> it amazes me that firing big platters, plates on
> edge
> is always the best for me.
> when i would stack rim to foot, would lose about
> three
> in every bisque.
> now just stack them on edge.
> never lose one.
> just took out 15 big platters.
> not a crack.
> all fired on their rims...vertical.
> mel/mn
> http://www.pclink.com/melpots
> from minnetonka, minnesota, u.s.a.
>

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Nancy Guido on wed 8 dec 99

Hi, I usually fire large tiles on end. I'll take my tile setters (the square
ones with little slots) and set them on the bottom shelf and then lean the
tiles against them and each other. Depending on the size and thickness of
the tile, I try not to put too many together, maybe two or three. When we
fire tiles at the potter's guild with other work, they can go inbetween pots
or against the posts. This works for me.

At first when I fired the larger tiles, if a corner was hanging off of the
shelf, it would be cracked. I haven't had this problem since. I figured it
had to do with cooling unevenly.

Nancy G.

Hank Murrow on wed 8 dec 99

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>mel, i'm not understanding how those plates stand up
>on their edges. are they leaning against other pots,
>a plate stand or what? ginny from orcas island

Ginny; I just lean the plates and large(18") platters up against the kiln
wall and lean the next one against the first, and so on. They never crack;
but if I load them in with any residual wetness the rim may deform a tiny
bit. Hope it works for you as well. Hank in Eugene

I.Lewis on thu 9 dec 99

------------------
----------------------------Original message----------------------------

does this vertical stacking cause any new

problem with the platters not sitting as flat,

warpage?

---

For Elizabeth Priddy and other interested parties

Tried this out once in the Salt Kiln with a couple of twenty inch diameter
platters. Amazing warping They turned into clam shells.

As a way of utilising space it is an excellent idea but I think the plates =
have
to have a robust design without excessive weight, good strong rims with an
almost flat profile so there is no leverage where contours change. In a =
bisque
fire there is no intention to reach the pyro-plastic stage (firebending) so =
a
slight lean should not make much difference. However, it will be important =
to
keep them away from heating elements or fire ports to prevent cracking due =
to
uneven heating.

Hope you all have success.

Ivor.

Nanci Bishof on fri 10 dec 99

I use a tile setter available through Axner pottery. It can stack either
vertically at a slant or horizontally & level. They can be used individually
or as a pair. They are about $9 a pair if I remember correctly.

nanci