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Cerere@aol.com on sat 4 dec 99


I am interested in knowing how can a dull, saw dust fired pot with a very
interesting shape become less drab looking? I don't really care it to be too
shiny, but mine is a bit too dull.

Thanks,

Toni

elizabeth priddy on sun 5 dec 99

You could apply gold leaf in designs around
the rims or other openings. It is nonfunctional,
so the world is your oyster...

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Elizabeth Priddy

email: epriddy@usa.net
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/clayworkshop
Clay: 12,000 yrs and still fresh!





On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:50:40 Cerere wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
>I am interested in knowing how can a dull, saw dust fired pot with a very
>interesting shape become less drab looking? I don't really care it to be too
>shiny, but mine is a bit too dull.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Toni
>


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Gayle Bair on sun 5 dec 99

Dear Toni,
When I was disappointed with a pit fired pot
I raided my husband's shoe polish collection.
I was really pleased with the depth of color
and loved the smell too.
I used brown, clear and cordovan. One word of
caution, exposure to direct sunlight will cause
it to fade. This is easily remedied with another
application of polish.
Good luck,
Gayle Bair

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----------------------------Original message----------------------------

I am interested in knowing how can a dull, saw dust fired pot with a very
interesting shape become less drab looking? I don't really care it to be
too
shiny, but mine is a bit too dull.

Thanks,

Toni

Heidrun Schmid on sun 5 dec 99

Toni, have you tried to put clear kiwi wax on it and polish it? If a piece for
sawdust firing is burnished before the firing it will look beautiful with a soft
sheen
Heidrun

Cerere@aol.com wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> I am interested in knowing how can a dull, saw dust fired pot with a very
> interesting shape become less drab looking? I don't really care it to be too
> shiny, but mine is a bit too dull.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Toni

Cindy Strnad on sun 5 dec 99

Toni,

If you just want a subdued sheen, try Future floor wax. Very discreet, and
makes a big difference.

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
Custer, SD

Marcia Selsor on tue 11 dec 01


You just need to fire them to the right temperature..^6 to melt the
glaze. They are severely underfired if they only went to ^06. You won't
need to reglaze them, just refire them.
Hope you can do it in time.
Best wishes,
Marcia


carrie jacobson wrote:
>
> Greetings, experts - Ever have one of those days/weeks/lives? I've got one.
>
> Waiting until the last minute (I know), and still kilnless, I raw glazed my
> porcelain agatewear bowls, tumblers and mugs (Christmas presents) and
> brought them to my friend Linden, a nice old man who operates a ceramics
> center. Glazed them with a zinc-free Laguna clear, if it matters.
>
> I loaded the kiln, and Linden said he'd candle it overnight and fire it the
> next day. To cone 6? I asked. Yup, cone 6.
>
> Of course, it turns out that when he said cone 6, he meant 06, and of
> course, I meant 6. At least we agreed on the oxidation part.
>
> So, now. The ware feels rough. It has some small glossy streaks on it, but
> otherwise, no glaze is visible.
>
> My question is, Do I need to reglaze these pieces? I don't think so, but I
> am a little flipped out by how rough they feel, and how virtually invisible
> the glaze is. I assume the roughness I feel is the chemicals, but still. I
> question all this.
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Of course, I am going to visit the family
> this weekend, so this truly is a last-minute problem.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Carrie Jacobson
> Bolsters Mills, Maine
>
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potterybydai on tue 11 dec 01


Tried sending this directly to you, Carrie, but it came back as
"undeliverable".
Hi, Carrie - just refire them to the proper cone. I've had to refire
occasionally,like when the kiln crapped out halfway through, or I
accidentally put in a ^06 instead of ^6, and it's just fine. As long as
there was enough glaze put on, they should fire up just as if they'd been
done right the first time. The very rough feeling is normal for half-fired
stuff, believe me! With colored glazes, they're not even the right color at
that temp! Have you raw-glazed before? I think (but have no experience
with it) that people who raw-glaze use different glaze recipes than for
bisque-glazing. There's a reason, but I can't remember what it is.
Something to do with the raw ware sucking in more water .....helpful, aren't
I? It didn't stick in my mind, because I don't raw glaze. Too much
information for my small brain .
Good luck!
Dai inKelowna, BC

"Life is what happens while we're continuously
planning what our futures will be, and before
we know it, it's over."

carrie jacobson on tue 11 dec 01


Greetings, experts - Ever have one of those days/weeks/lives? I've got one.

Waiting until the last minute (I know), and still kilnless, I raw glazed my
porcelain agatewear bowls, tumblers and mugs (Christmas presents) and
brought them to my friend Linden, a nice old man who operates a ceramics
center. Glazed them with a zinc-free Laguna clear, if it matters.

I loaded the kiln, and Linden said he'd candle it overnight and fire it the
next day. To cone 6? I asked. Yup, cone 6.

Of course, it turns out that when he said cone 6, he meant 06, and of
course, I meant 6. At least we agreed on the oxidation part.

So, now. The ware feels rough. It has some small glossy streaks on it, but
otherwise, no glaze is visible.

My question is, Do I need to reglaze these pieces? I don't think so, but I
am a little flipped out by how rough they feel, and how virtually invisible
the glaze is. I assume the roughness I feel is the chemicals, but still. I
question all this.

Any help would be appreciated. Of course, I am going to visit the family
this weekend, so this truly is a last-minute problem.

Best wishes,

Carrie Jacobson
Bolsters Mills, Maine

Earl Brunner on tue 11 dec 01


If you had a thick enough glaze coat on them in the first place, it should just be
a question of refiring to the correct temperature. I believe what you are feeling
is underfired glaze, it hasn't melted fully yet. There are several hundred degrees
between cone 06 and cone 6. For some glazes 30 or 40 degrees makes a major
difference.

carrie jacobson wrote:

> Greetings, experts - Ever have one of those days/weeks/lives? I've got one.
>
> Waiting until the last minute (I know), and still kilnless, I raw glazed my
> porcelain agatewear bowls, tumblers and mugs (Christmas presents) and
> brought them to my friend Linden, a nice old man who operates a ceramics
> center. Glazed them with a zinc-free Laguna clear, if it matters.
>
> I loaded the kiln, and Linden said he'd candle it overnight and fire it the
> next day. To cone 6? I asked. Yup, cone 6.
>
> Of course, it turns out that when he said cone 6, he meant 06, and of
> course, I meant 6. At least we agreed on the oxidation part.
>
> So, now. The ware feels rough. It has some small glossy streaks on it, but
> otherwise, no glaze is visible.
>
> My question is, Do I need to reglaze these pieces? I don't think so, but I
> am a little flipped out by how rough they feel, and how virtually invisible
> the glaze is. I assume the roughness I feel is the chemicals, but still. I
> question all this.
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Of course, I am going to visit the family
> this weekend, so this truly is a last-minute problem.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Carrie Jacobson
> Bolsters Mills, Maine
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list or change your subscription
> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots@pclink.com.

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Paul Lewing on tue 11 dec 01


Carrie, refire them to cone 6. They should be fine.
Paul Lewing, Seattle

Cindy Strnad on tue 11 dec 01


Dear Carrie,

Don't reglaze them. Fire them to ^6--it should
work. If it doesn't, well, there's nothing you can
do about it at this point anyhow. But I think it
will work.

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
RR 1, Box 51
Custer, SD 57730
USA
cindy@earthen-vessels-pottery.com
http://www.earthen-vessels-pottery.com

SusanRaku@AOL.COM on tue 11 dec 01


wrong cone...

I had the same problem a few weeks ago and thought for sure the load was
ruined. The glazes had crawled and curled up into separate pieces, leaving
huge gaps. And there were ugly bubbles. I reclosed the kiln without
touching anything, refired at cone 6 and to my amazement got a gorgeous bunch
of pots with no trace to the earlier state they were in.

Susan

Tommy Humphries on tue 11 dec 01


If the pots had enough glaze on them going in, and there is none flaked off
on the kiln shelf, then just refire the pots... sounds like the glaze was
just getting into the mood to melt when the kiln shut down. The rough
texture could be from the glaze getting compressed when the clay shrank
under it, or, it could be that the melt was getting active and bubbling up a
bit.
The clear glaze is probably still a bit white, and on a white clay would be
nearly invisible. Was this glaze tinted blue in the bottle, many clear
glazes are, just so that you CAN see then on a white clay body.

Tommy


----- Original Message -----
From: "carrie jacobson"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:52 PM
Subject: advice needed


> Greetings, experts - Ever have one of those days/weeks/lives? I've got
one.
>