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raku reduction

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Raku Boy on sun 28 nov 99



Hello! I am a new Clayarter! I'm exited about learning all I
possibly can from you all.

My first question is this - I've seen a lot about building your own
raku kiln but not *too* much about raku ruduction and Methods.
I usually use shredded newspaper and/or sawdust and have had some
good results. What do you use?
Also, I usually set my piece in the reduction pit (20 gallon metal
garbage can with sand to weight it down) directly into the
newspaper/sawdust. This often causes scarring which sometimes is a good
effect on sculptural pieces but I really don't like it on my bowls and
vases. How do you avoid this?
Another thing - I've heard of using charcoal in the reduction
process - but if you line the bottom of your pit with it couldn't it also
soak up some of the smoke? I know charcoal (and I know it isn't usually
briquets) is used for filtration so would this work? Are there any other
materials you use to lessen smoke output?

Thanks in advance for anything you can help me with!

In Andover Kansas - Where we're still having beautiful weather...

- John Christensen

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Marcia Selsor on mon 29 nov 99

I like straw and/or pine needles. It give copper matts an interesting
surface pattern.
Marcia Selsor in Montana

Raku Boy wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> Hello! I am a new Clayarter! I'm exited about learning all I
> possibly can from you all.
>
> My first question is this - I've seen a lot about building your own
> raku kiln but not *too* much about raku ruduction and Methods.
> I usually use shredded newspaper and/or sawdust and have had some
> good results. What do you use?
> Also, I usually set my piece in the reduction pit (20 gallon metal
> garbage can with sand to weight it down) directly into the
> newspaper/sawdust. This often causes scarring which sometimes is a good
> effect on sculptural pieces but I really don't like it on my bowls and
> vases. How do you avoid this?
> Another thing - I've heard of using charcoal in the reduction
> process - but if you line the bottom of your pit with it couldn't it also
> soak up some of the smoke? I know charcoal (and I know it isn't usually
> briquets) is used for filtration so would this work? Are there any other
> materials you use to lessen smoke output?
>
> Thanks in advance for anything you can help me with!
>
> In Andover Kansas - Where we're still having beautiful weather...
>
> - John Christensen
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Richard Jeffery on tue 30 nov 99

John

If the reduction material is creating scarring, maybe pot retaining more
heat and the glaze is still too molten? This may be good or bad. If you
like the effects but not the scarring, you could use a piece of soft kiln
brick to sit the pot on, just above the reduction material.

Richard
Bournemouth UK

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> [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU]On Behalf
> Of Marcia Selsor
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> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: Raku Reduction
>
>
> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> I like straw and/or pine needles. It give copper matts an interesting
> surface pattern.
> Marcia Selsor in Montana
>
> Raku Boy wrote:
> >
> > ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> >
> > Hello! I am a new Clayarter! I'm exited about
> learning all I
> > possibly can from you all.
> >
> > My first question is this - I've seen a lot about
> building your own
> > raku kiln but not *too* much about raku ruduction and Methods.
> > I usually use shredded newspaper and/or sawdust and
> have had some
> > good results. What do you use?
> > Also, I usually set my piece in the reduction pit
> (20 gallon metal
> > garbage can with sand to weight it down) directly into the
> > newspaper/sawdust. This often causes scarring which
> sometimes is a good
> > effect on sculptural pieces but I really don't like it on
> my bowls and
> > vases. How do you avoid this?
> > Another thing - I've heard of using charcoal in
> the reduction
> > process - but if you line the bottom of your pit with it
> couldn't it also
> > soak up some of the smoke? I know charcoal (and I know it
> isn't usually
> > briquets) is used for filtration so would this work? Are
> there any other
> > materials you use to lessen smoke output?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for anything you can help me with!
> >
> > In Andover Kansas - Where we're still having beautiful weather...
> >
> > - John Christensen
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> --
> Marcia Selsor
> selsor@imt.net
> http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls
> http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/spain99.html
> http://www.silverhawk.com/ex99/selsor/welcome.html
>

Tony Ferguson on sun 22 apr 01


reduce very hard
lots of smoke
then seal tightly
sometimes take lid off & let breath
throw more burnables on & cover again
dont open till christmas is best (20+ minutes)


--- Arnolds Home Improvements
wrote:
> I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good
> glaze that works well for
> me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare
> areas of the pot where
> there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray
> rather than black) I use
> standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with
> newspaper, straw and pine
> needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire
> to between 1800 - 1900
> degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay
> down. So my question is
> what can I try to get that nice deep black that you
> see on raku?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can
> offer!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Gene Arnold
> mudduck@advi.net
> Playing in the mud in N.C.
>
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Lisa Chmielewski on sun 22 apr 01


I love Raku...a pottery piromanic usually does! I reduce with
newspaper(funny papers are the best for me, because of their ink). I let it
flame well and sometimes for a little added fun use a SMALL splash of
denatured alcohol, let flame well and cover TIGHTLY. Most of the time I've
noticed others don't seal their containers tightly enough. Of course you
will receive lots of response to this one, every one has thier own little
twist that works for them. Also if you know a wood worker where you can get
fine saw dust, it works great! Douse it on when red hot and get good poof of
fire! Boy that's a real technical term...HUH! :)

Fire it up!! Lisa Chmielewski, Untamed Mudd

------Original Message------
From: Arnolds Home Improvements
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: April 23, 2001 1:13:58 AM GMT
Subject: raku reduction


I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good glaze that works well for
me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare areas of the pot where
there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray rather than black) I use
standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with newspaper, straw and pine
needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire to between 1800 - 1900
degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay down. So my question is
what can I try to get that nice deep black that you see on raku?

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!!!!!!

Gene Arnold
mudduck@advi.net
Playing in the mud in N.C.

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L. P. Skeen on sun 22 apr 01


Arnold,
What temperature did you bisque to? Sounds like maybe the clay is not
porous enough to take the smoke. Also, are you peeking at the pots too
soon? I get really good blacks in newspaper and sawdust. We basically put
the pot in the reduction chamber and forget about it until almost time for
the next load to come out of the kiln.
----- Original Message -----
From: Arnolds Home Improvements
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 9:13 PM
Subject: raku reduction


> I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good glaze that works well
for
> me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare areas of the pot where
> there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray rather than black) I
use
> standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with newspaper, straw and pine
> needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire to between 1800 - 1900
> degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay down. So my question is
> what can I try to get that nice deep black that you see on raku?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Gene Arnold
> mudduck@advi.net
> Playing in the mud in N.C.
>
>
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Arnolds Home Improvements on sun 22 apr 01


I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good glaze that works well for
me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare areas of the pot where
there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray rather than black) I use
standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with newspaper, straw and pine
needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire to between 1800 - 1900
degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay down. So my question is
what can I try to get that nice deep black that you see on raku?

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!!!!!!

Gene Arnold
mudduck@advi.net
Playing in the mud in N.C.

craig clark on mon 23 apr 01


Arnold, it's sounds like you are not getting enough flame action when
you place your pot in the can for reduction. Be sure that you get a decent
amount of rigourous flame before you close the lid onto the can. Watch the
pot and see if you are able to see the unglazed areas blacken. If you are
already doing this then you may be firing your clay body to high. You really
don't want it to become vitrified. This will prevent carbon impregnation of
the clay bady which is what gives you the black color that you are after. I
don't ever bisque above an 06.
Try laying out a couple test tiles, bisque them, and then fire them
without glaze on them. Put them in the can as you normally would for
reduction. See if they turn black. If they don't you might try a different
clay body.
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 St
Houston, Texas 77008
(713) 861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Arnolds Home Improvements
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Sunday, April 22, 2001 8:47 PM
Subject: raku reduction


>I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good glaze that works well for
>me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare areas of the pot where
>there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray rather than black) I use
>standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with newspaper, straw and pine
>needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire to between 1800 - 1900
>degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay down. So my question is
>what can I try to get that nice deep black that you see on raku?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Gene Arnold
>mudduck@advi.net
>Playing in the mud in N.C.
>
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Ababi on mon 23 apr 01


I do it lately with strew which is the most available material to me . I do
not have to prepare it like newspapers. into the straw/hay I put little
pieces of material full with car/tractor used oil
+......RESPIRATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a lot of smoke.
Ababi Sharon
ababisha@shoval.ardom.co.il
http://members4.clubphoto.com/ababi306910/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnolds Home Improvements"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 3:13 AM
Subject: raku reduction


> I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good glaze that works well
for
> me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare areas of the pot where
> there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray rather than black) I
use
> standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with newspaper, straw and pine
> needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire to between 1800 - 1900
> degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay down. So my question is
> what can I try to get that nice deep black that you see on raku?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Gene Arnold
> mudduck@advi.net
> Playing in the mud in N.C.
>
>
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Marcia Selsor on mon 23 apr 01


How high do you bisque? Try to bisque at ^09. I don't know commercial
clays very well and am not familiar with yours. Either its the clay or
the bisque temperature is my guess.
Marcia in Montana
working on my dream raku kiln

Arnolds Home Improvements wrote:
>
> I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good glaze that works well for
> me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare areas of the pot where
> there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray rather than black) I use
> standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with newspaper, straw and pine
> needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire to between 1800 - 1900
> degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay down. So my question is
> what can I try to get that nice deep black that you see on raku?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Gene Arnold
> mudduck@advi.net
> Playing in the mud in N.C.
>
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Fraser Forsythe on mon 23 apr 01


Hi.

Here's my 2 cents: 1. make sure the combustible is dry, and 2. try using a wet but
wrung towel to form a seal,i.e. place pot in garbage can, then when you're ready
to cover place towel over the rim of the can so it covers the entire opening, and
finally place the lid on (over the towel). The lid will hold the towel firmly in
place.

Fraser Forsythe
www.glazeexchange.com
fraser@glazeexchange.com

fraserforsythe@icqmail.com

Arnolds Home Improvements wrote:

> I have just begun trying some raku. I have a good glaze that works well for
> me. The problem I seem to be having is the bare areas of the pot where
> there is not any glaze don't get that black.( gray rather than black) I use
> standard 119 clay. I have tried reducing with newspaper, straw and pine
> needles, the newspaper seems to do the best. I fire to between 1800 - 1900
> degrees, this is the temp where my glaze will lay down. So my question is
> what can I try to get that nice deep black that you see on raku?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Gene Arnold
> mudduck@advi.net
> Playing in the mud in N.C.
>
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Chris Clarke on tue 24 apr 01


> then seal tightly
> sometimes take lid off & let breath
> throw more burnables on & cover again

Be very careful!! I did this one time and one time only. It flashed took
all the hair off my arms, melted my bangs and burned off half my eyelashes.
I also gasped as I did it and took a lung full of hot smoke. The pain of
burned lungs is not pleasant. Cough lasted for a week and it took over a
month for my eyelashes to grow back. chris

temecula, california
chris@ccpots.com
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Robert W. Anderson on tue 1 apr 08


Use a 5 gal garbage can. The cover
fits perfectly for reduction. Couple
sheets of newspaper in a grocery
bag, and your pot. No more smoke
than a BBQ grill. If the neighbors
are concerned, invite them over,
show'em the process. Give them
a pot. They'll love ya.

Bob Anderson
Antigo, Wis.
rwanaa@charter.net
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artact@comcast.net on thu 3 apr 08


Why not go "Smokeless" altogether=3F Get equal results and don't even u=
se
a twig=3F
I've done it many times over=2E Just think outside of the nine dots!

How=3F It's all there for the taking: www=2ER2D2u=2Ecom=20

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:09:00 -0600
To: CLAYART@LSV=2ECERAMICS=2EORG
Subject: Raku reduction


Use a 5 gal garbage can=2E The cover
fits perfectly for reduction=2E Couple
sheets of newspaper in a grocery
bag, and your pot=2E No more smoke
than a BBQ grill=2E If the neighbors
are concerned, invite them over,
show'em the process=2E Give them
a pot=2E They'll love ya=2E

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----- Original Message ----
From: "artact@comcast.net"
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 8:23:19 AM
Subject: Re: Raku reduction

Why not go "Smokeless" altogether? Get equal results and don't even use
a twig?
I've done it many times over. Just think outside of the nine dots!

How? It's all there for the taking: www.R2D2u.com

Frank Colson/COLSON STUDIO

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Robert W. Anderson rwanaa@CHARTER.NET
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:09:00 -0600
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Raku reduction


Use a 5 gal garbage can. The cover
fits perfectly for reduction. Couple
sheets of newspaper in a grocery
bag, and your pot. No more smoke
than a BBQ grill. If the neighbors
are concerned, invite them over,
show'em the process. Give them
a pot. They'll love ya.

Bob Anderson
Antigo, Wis.
rwanaa@charter.net
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