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help with kiln location

updated tue 26 oct 99

 

Scott J on wed 20 oct 99

I will (hopefully) be moving in a few months and will have an entire
basement all to myself instead of the garage. I am going to be putting my
kiln down with me (7 cu ft. electric) but am worried about ventilation,
heat, etc.

Will I be o.k. having it in the basement (safety wise) and do I need to have
it vented? I really don't want to buy an envirovent - would I be o.k. just
leaving the windows in the basement open a little when I fire? What risks
am I taking by not getting the envirovent?

Thanks!!
Scott J

Frederich, Tim on wed 20 oct 99

Scott J,
You can safely put your kiln in the basement if you vent it and follow all
of the kiln manufacturers directions. I would not recommend using a kiln in
an enclosed space without the proper ventilation system. A downdraft vent
system works the best for removing odors and dangerous gases. Please ask if
you have more questions.

Tim Frederich, Orton Ceramic Foundation

> ----------
> From: Scott J[SMTP:jpshep@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 1:48 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Help with Kiln Location
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I will (hopefully) be moving in a few months and will have an entire
> basement all to myself instead of the garage. I am going to be putting my
> kiln down with me (7 cu ft. electric) but am worried about ventilation,
> heat, etc.
>
> Will I be o.k. having it in the basement (safety wise) and do I need to
> have
> it vented? I really don't want to buy an envirovent - would I be o.k.
> just
> leaving the windows in the basement open a little when I fire? What risks
> am I taking by not getting the envirovent?
>
> Thanks!!
> Scott J
>

Cindy Strnad, Earthen Vessels Pottery on thu 21 oct 99

Scott,

If you want the kiln in your home, you *must* ventilate it. The main "nasty"
for me is paraffin wax burning off, and that, from what I'm told, doesn't
get shipped out with a normal ventilation system, but there are plenty of
other annoying gasses being burned off that you probably don't want to
breathe regularly.

You'll likely have to use cold wax resist if you have the kiln in your
house. Just leaving the window/door open, placing a fan, or whatever, won't
do the job. Even if it keeps out fumes (which I doubt), there are toxic
substances not readily apparent to the human schnoz. Think of it as a
business expense.

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels Pottery
Custer, SD

ACTSNYC@cs.com on sun 24 oct 99

>
> Scott J wrote:
> >
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > I will (hopefully) be moving in a few months and will have an entire
> > basement all to myself instead of the garage. I am going to be putting
my
> > kiln down with me (7 cu ft. electric) but am worried about ventilation,
> > heat, etc.
> >
> Will I be o.k. having it in the basement (safety wise) and do I need to
have
> it vented? I really don't want to buy an envirovent - would I be o.k. just
> leaving the windows in the basement open a little when I fire? What risks
> am I taking by not getting the envirovent?
> Thanks!!
> Scott J
--------------------------------------------------
The gases such as the sulfur oxides will get all through the house since they
can diffuse through incredibly small spaces. The metal fumes will remain in
the dust in the pottery and you will track them from the basement into the
house. Get ventilation. An open window will just not do it.

Monona Rossol
ACTS
181 Thompson St., # 23
NYC NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062

ACTSNYC@compuserve.com

Don & Isao Morrill on mon 25 oct 99

At 19:51 10/24/99 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>
>> Scott J wrote:
>> >
>> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> > I will (hopefully) be moving in a few months and will have an entire
>> > basement all to myself instead of the garage. I am going to be putting
>my
>> > kiln down with me (7 cu ft. electric) but am worried about ventilation,
>> > heat, etc.
>> >
>> Will I be o.k. having it in the basement (safety wise) and do I need to
>have
>> it vented? I really don't want to buy an envirovent - would I be o.k. just
>> leaving the windows in the basement open a little when I fire? What risks
>> am I taking by not getting the envirovent?
>> Thanks!!
>> Scott J
>--------------------------------------------------
>The gases such as the sulfur oxides will get all through the house since they
>can diffuse through incredibly small spaces. The metal fumes will remain in
>the dust in the pottery and you will track them from the basement into the
>house. Get ventilation. An open window will just not do it.
>
>Monona Rossol
>ACTS
>181 Thompson St., # 23
>NYC NY 10012-2586 212/777-0062
>
>ACTSNYC@compuserve.com


There are minimums which will do quite well if used intelligently.
Place your kiln close to the window. Instal the largest exhaust fan you
can find.(Old oil-burner blowers usually cost app. $40.00 and will pull
enough air to hold your access door closed to the basement.) Keep your
floor and other surfaces dampened at all times. Stay away from lead,Barium
and other toxic materials. You may spend years exploring simple, 1/2/3
glazes at moderate cone levels. Store and measure, all of your bulk
materials in the garage or other 'away' places.
It isn't all that difficult to bore a few small holes in the bottom
of your kiln.Make a small soft aluminium box to place beneath the kiln
connected to a short length of 4" aluminium tubing and that,to a dryer hose
fastened well away from the hot kiln wall. Add a small bird-cage blower
pointing out the window or, even place the end of the hose at the exhaust fan.
While it may be true that none of these fixes are elegant....few of
us are wealhy enough to afford school-grade equipment which is often way
overpriced in response to budgets. Don