Anji Henderson on sun 25 jul 99
I don't use a lot of underglaze, but I love the richness of the Laguna
Moroccan Sand Glaze Ebony. Maybe others know about the rest of the line.
Anji, Maryland
Farren on sun 25 jul 99
I did a tile project with kindergarten kids using the Mayco underglaze brand
and it worked great. They need to apply about 3 coats to bisque to get a good
cover. I also tried the Laguna underglazes on the tiles to see which worked
better and they peeled off the bisqued tile if it was applied too thickly.
Also, the Mayco underglaze was a bit less expensive and went a long way. Good
luck.
Patricia
Cheryl L Litman wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I want to try something new with kids and was thinking of having them use
> underglazes. I'd prefer to have them work on bisque since they're
> generally a bit heavy handed and I don't want them breaking their
> greenware.
>
> Having never used any of the leading brands, I was wondering if some of
> you had used some or all of the following at cone 6 and could point me in
> the right direction? My local supplier says that she prefers the Mayco
> line but to steer clear of the pinks and purples at cone 6.
>
> Duncan...............Concepts line
> Mayco..................Stroke & Coat
> Amaco.................Velvets for use on both bisque and greenware
>
> TIA
> Cheryl Litman
> Somerset, NJ
> email: cheryllitman@juno.com
>
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amy parker on sun 25 jul 99
At 06:31 PM 7/23/99 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I want to try something new with kids and was thinking of having them use
>underglazes. I'd prefer to have them work on bisque
I was wondering if some of
>you had used some or all of the following at cone 6 and could point me in
>the right direction?
>Duncan...............Concepts line
>Mayco..................Stroke & Coat
>Amaco.................Velvets for use on both bisque and greenware
>Cheryl Litman
Cheryl - I have no experience with the Duncan line but have used the other
two quite a bit, as have my "assistants". The main difference is that the
Stroke & Coat is really a glaze - comes out glossy & shiny & water-tight.
The Amaco Velvets are flat and matte and not "food safe" without a clear
overglaze. I have found that you need to fire velvets before applying the
overglaze or they tend to "run". This means refiring to bisque, which works
fine & gives perfect
results. Makes the youngsters quite happy!!!
The velvet "Red" stays red at cone 6 - I had some trouble with the stroke &
coat red family fading away. Both need more than one coat applied for good
color - this can be difficult for youngsters!! I like to leave the tops off the
velvets until they are thick like yogurt and then find that one coat is
pretty good coverage. They are more like watercolors than the stroke &
coats, so they are better for more detailed work.
This is lots of fun for kids!!!
Amy in too Hotlanta
amy parker Lithonia, GA
amyp@sd-software.com
Marvin Klotz on sun 25 jul 99
At 06:31 PM 7/23/99 -0400, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I want to try something new with kids and was thinking of having them use
>underglazes. I'd prefer to have them work on bisque since they're
>generally a bit heavy handed and I don't want them breaking their
>greenware.
>
>Having never used any of the leading brands, I was wondering if some of
>you had used some or all of the following at cone 6 and could point me in
>the right direction? My local supplier says that she prefers the Mayco
>line but to steer clear of the pinks and purples at cone 6.
>
>Duncan...............Concepts line
>Mayco..................Stroke & Coat
>Amaco.................Velvets for use on both bisque and greenware
>
>TIA
>Cheryl Litman
>Somerset, NJ
>email: cheryllitman@juno.com
>
>___________________________________________________________________
>Get the Internet just the way you want it.
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I have used quite a lot of the Mayco Stroke and Coats at cone 6 oxidation
(don't know about reduction) and they all worked very well even the purples
and Salsa (brick red), although I have not tried any pinks.
These are actually glazes rather than underglazes although they are
overglaze compatible. If the entire piece is covered by Stroke and Coat
then you won't need an overglaze. If you do need a clear glaze in order to
cover the entire piece then finding one with the right Ca/Bo balance is
necessary in order to retain the good color in the purples etc. I'm still
playing around with that. Good luck.
Joan Klotz
Venice, California.
email marvintax@earthlink.net
Elias Portor on tue 27 jul 99
Hi, Personally I perfer the amaco, I use a lot of underglazes and the Amaco
aren't as "sticky" as the other two new "glaze/underglaze"s are. And the
colors are much brighter. Eportor
Cheryl L Litman wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I want to try something new with kids and was thinking of having them use
> underglazes. I'd prefer to have them work on bisque since they're
> generally a bit heavy handed and I don't want them breaking their
> greenware.
>
> Having never used any of the leading brands, I was wondering if some of
> you had used some or all of the following at cone 6 and could point me in
> the right direction? My local supplier says that she prefers the Mayco
> line but to steer clear of the pinks and purples at cone 6.
>
> Duncan...............Concepts line
> Mayco..................Stroke & Coat
> Amaco.................Velvets for use on both bisque and greenware
>
> TIA
> Cheryl Litman
> Somerset, NJ
> email: cheryllitman@juno.com
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Get the Internet just the way you want it.
> Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
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Elias Portor on tue 27 jul 99
Just a side note, amaco has come out with the "majolica" type underglazes that
like the stroke/coats etc. These are different from the velvets. eportor
amy parker wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> At 06:31 PM 7/23/99 EDT, you wrote:
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >I want to try something new with kids and was thinking of having them use
> >underglazes. I'd prefer to have them work on bisque
> I was wondering if some of
> >you had used some or all of the following at cone 6 and could point me in
> >the right direction?
>
> >Duncan...............Concepts line
> >Mayco..................Stroke & Coat
> >Amaco.................Velvets for use on both bisque and greenware
> >Cheryl Litman
>
> Cheryl - I have no experience with the Duncan line but have used the other
> two quite a bit, as have my "assistants". The main difference is that the
> Stroke & Coat is really a glaze - comes out glossy & shiny & water-tight.
> The Amaco Velvets are flat and matte and not "food safe" without a clear
> overglaze. I have found that you need to fire velvets before applying the
> overglaze or they tend to "run". This means refiring to bisque, which works
> fine & gives perfect
> results. Makes the youngsters quite happy!!!
>
> The velvet "Red" stays red at cone 6 - I had some trouble with the stroke &
> coat red family fading away. Both need more than one coat applied for good
> color - this can be difficult for youngsters!! I like to leave the tops off t
> velvets until they are thick like yogurt and then find that one coat is
> pretty good coverage. They are more like watercolors than the stroke &
> coats, so they are better for more detailed work.
>
> This is lots of fun for kids!!!
>
> Amy in too Hotlanta
>
> amy parker Lithonia, GA
> amyp@sd-software.com
Cheryl L Litman on tue 3 aug 99
Thanks to those of you who responded about taking underglazes to cone 6.
I ended up buying some of the Amaco Velvets and a commercial clear.
Unfortunately for me, my local supplier neglected to mention when I
placed the order that all but two colors were not in stock and back
ordered so when they didn't show up in time, I went ahead and did my
usual glazing with them - odds and ends of cone 6 glazed I have used
which were lying around the house.
I'm 'assured' that the remainder will arrive any day now and hope to try
this experiment in 3 weeks with the kids.
I appreciate the guidance.
Cheryl Litman
Somerset, NJ
email: cheryllitman@juno.com
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