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wet, dry, bisque slip

updated mon 25 mar 02

 

Charlie and Linda on wed 5 may 99

Hey People

Anyone out there with a copy of Cynthia Bringle's white slip that is
called "Wet, Dry, Bisque"?

I have been storing it in my "piling system" for the last 5 years and
now can't locate it... %$#%#T$#!!!! Tomorrow I'll stop procrastinating
and get organized. :-/

Charlie Riggs

Thanks in advance

Sondra Karipides on fri 7 may 99

Charlie - - - I have been more or less lurking on Clayart and drinking in
the vast amount of information, humor and wisdom (plus a little hogwash)
for some time now and been hesitant to chime in. But this is my third post
today! I guess I felt that since I had something to really contribute, I
should pay back all you generous and interesting people. I happen to have
a recipe for Bringle slip which is amazing for it's ability to work on
greenware and bisque. Here it is - - -

Bringle slip

EPK 20
Ball clay 20
Neph syen 25
Flint 30
Borax 5 ( I substitute gerst bor with good results)
Bentonite 2

Sondra

Sittin in front of my computer here at work, looking as though I am
working. *grin*



>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hey People
>
>Anyone out there with a copy of Cynthia Bringle's white slip that is
>called "Wet, Dry, Bisque"?
>
>I have been storing it in my "piling system" for the last 5 years and
>now can't locate it... %$#%#T$#!!!! Tomorrow I'll stop procrastinating
>and get organized. :-/
>
>Charlie Riggs
>
>Thanks in advance

Elca Branman on fri 7 may 99

Bringle Universal Slip

Neph Sy 25
Kaolin 20
Ball 20
Flint 30
Borax 5
Bentonit 2

For colors(in %)
white zircopax 10%
gold Rutile 20 to 40 %
Blue cobalt 3%
Brown Iron ox 20 -40 %
pea rly green cobalt 3%
ruitle 20%
There may be some zirco pax somewhere in there,
but whether for the pearly green, or the main batch, I don't
remember.,because I mixed up such a huge batch the first time that i had
it for years...
Elca Branman...sarsota , Fla.

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Joy Holdread on sun 9 may 99

In a message dated 5/7/99 9:03:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
karipisf@muohio.edu writes:

>
> Bringle slip
>
> EPK 20
> Ball clay 20
> Neph syen 25
> Flint 30
> Borax 5 ( I substitute gerst bor with good results)
> Bentonite 2
>
> Sondra

Sondra, thanks for contributing, I'm excited about this slip. WHAT CONE?
You're fitting in just fine, the WHAT CONE bellow shows up regularly.
Joy in Tucson got to get my swamp cooler in gear, seems like just yesterday I
hauled the wood stove into storage.

Pamala Browne on mon 10 may 99

I have a great engobe that works like a glaze ( too much frit) but it fits
everything and comes out shiny-cool.I have been watching the recipes for
slips with an interest for the colorants.Haven't seen a black yet--anybody
out there have a reliable combination of oxides to make a black,black?I had
one that combined three-one of which was cobalt-but I can't find my first
little recipe book and the tests I've done are giving dark browns.Any help
would be greatly appreciated!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Joy Holdread
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 1999 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Wet, Dry, Bisque Slip


> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> In a message dated 5/7/99 9:03:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> karipisf@muohio.edu writes:
>
> >
> > Bringle slip
> >
> > EPK 20
> > Ball clay 20
> > Neph syen 25
> > Flint 30
> > Borax 5 ( I substitute gerst bor with good results)
> > Bentonite 2
> >
> > Sondra
>
> Sondra, thanks for contributing, I'm excited about this slip. WHAT CONE?
> You're fitting in just fine, the WHAT CONE bellow shows up regularly.
> Joy in Tucson got to get my swamp cooler in gear, seems like just
yesterday I
> hauled the wood stove into storage.
>

Linda Arbuckle on mon 10 may 99

A note on the slip recipe containing 5% borax that's been on ClayArt of
late... I used a recipe from Daniel Rhodes book Clay and Glazes for the
Potter that contained 5% borax, a soluble ingredient.

I found that if the slip sat over time, the borax formed hard crystals
in the slip that would fire to glassy spots if not screened out. Since I
like my leatherhard slip thick like yogurt, it was really unworkable to
think about screening all that slip.

I say avoid soluble ingredients. Slips aren't as sensitive as glazes to
compositional changes. Ditch the borax; you may end up screening it out
anyway if you store you slip for extended periods. Add more flux if
needed instead.

Linda

--
Linda Arbuckle
Graduate Coordinator, Assoc. Prof.
Univ of FL
School of Art and Art History
P.O. Box 115801, Gainesville, FL 32611-5801
(352) 392-0201 x 219
e-mail: arbuck@ufl.edu

Sondra Karipides on mon 10 may 99

Dear Clayarters - - Sorry that I omitted the cone info for this slip, even
after being aware of that "WHAT CONE bellow" ! I got the recipe from a
person who fires at C/5-6 and have always assumed that it was for that
temp. At least I can say that I use it for C/5-6 with no problems. I'm
fairly sure that it could be used at a lower temp as well, but maybe should
be tested for higher cone use.

Sondra

My back is aching from carrying cinder blocks . . . . This better not
interfere with my clay play!

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>In a message dated 5/7/99 9:03:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
>karipisf@muohio.edu writes:
>
>>
>> Bringle slip
>>
>> EPK 20
>> Ball clay 20
>> Neph syen 25
>> Flint 30
>> Borax 5 ( I substitute gerst bor with good results)
>> Bentonite 2
>>
>> Sondra
>
>Sondra, thanks for contributing, I'm excited about this slip. WHAT CONE?
>You're fitting in just fine, the WHAT CONE bellow shows up regularly.
>Joy in Tucson got to get my swamp cooler in gear, seems like just yesterday I
>hauled the wood stove into storage.

Anne Wellings on thu 21 mar 02


In the archives, there are two slip recipes by Cynthia Bringle posted as
having the name Wet, Dry, Bisque Slip. They are identical except one
contains Custer feldspar and the other contains nepheline syenite. Does
anyone know for a fact that both of these can be used on dry or bisqued as
well as damp clay? Most of the postings refer to the neph sye version as
having this quality. (As for the Custer spar version, it is my favorite for
damp clay at ^10.)

To see the postings, search Bringle Slip and look for these names as well:
Wonder Slip, and C Slip.

Anne

Mary Day Wollheim on fri 22 mar 02


Dear Anne,
There are good receipes for each kind of engobe in Daniel Rhodes ("Clays
and Glazes..."). and each for 3 different cone ranges of clay and firing.
Nepheline Syenite is used for each of the cone 1 - 6 range. I have used the
'dry' one a lot and it is excellent. (As you would expect from Rhodes!)
good luck, MaryDay

Anne Wellings on sat 23 mar 02


Hi, MaryDay-
Thanks. Yes, I've been using that page of engobe recipes in the Rhodes book
as a resource for many years. I formerly used his ^10 recipe, but switched
to the Bringle because it is a bit more vitreous and I need that for the
type of decorating I do. I use my slips without glaze, and certain colors
like blue show up better with the Bringle Slip.

Then when I switched to ^6, I used the info from Rhodes to convert the ^10
Bringle slip to a ^6 version. I didn't know at the time that she had a
version with neph sye in it that ended up being almost identical to what I
had come up with. (The only difference was that mine contained some talc,
unlike Bringle's, an idea from Rhodes.)

My question came about because I was helping someone find slip recipes in
the archives and ran across both these Bringle recipes that I had been
using and was surprised to see them both referred to as Wet/Dry/Bisque Slip.
I would have assumed that they could only be used on leather hard clay. I
am not really interested in using slip on anything but leather hard clay,
but I just wanted to check out the information. I thought it odd that both
these recipes, one with Custer spar and the other with neph sye (but
otherwise identical), would be called the same thing and have this notable
versatility. To me, it seemed the neph sye version was the more plausible
candidate for this. I wanted someone to confirm or deny that the Custer
version would work this way, too, but no one has.

Anne

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:11:25 -0700, Mary Day Wollheim
wrote:

>Dear Anne,
>There are good receipes for each kind of engobe in Daniel Rhodes ("Clays
>and Glazes..."). and each for 3 different cone ranges of clay and firing.
>Nepheline Syenite is used for each of the cone 1 - 6 range. I have used
the
>'dry' one a lot and it is excellent. (As you would expect from Rhodes!)
> good luck, MaryDay
>
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Mary Day Wollheim on sun 24 mar 02


Dear Anne -
Thanks for your e-mails - I see what you mean. From your description it
sounds as though there must have been some kind of misprint...?? It is
indeed hard to believe in that versatility.
Your use of unglazed vitreous slip sounds very appealing.

MaryDay