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Wayne Rives on thu 22 oct 98

I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
frame, and set the kiln on top.

The idea is to move the kiln out of the way when it is not in use,
not to skate it around the floor while it is hot!

Anyone seen anything like this, or know of something like this for
sale? I've asked the local pottery supply, and they don't know of
anything like this for sale by the manufacturer.

Wayne Rives
Peachtree City, GA

the Gallagher's on fri 23 oct 98

Sears makes casters for their table saws that bolt onto the legs. They have a
lever that raises each leg and lets the caster down for moving about. You
might be able to drill holes in the legs of your existing kiln to mount these
casters.
They cost about $50 for a set of four.

Michelle
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From: Ceramic Arts Discussion List on behalf of Wayne Rives
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 1998 7:05 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Kilns on Wheels

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
frame, and set the kiln on top.

The idea is to move the kiln out of the way when it is not in use,
not to skate it around the floor while it is hot!

Anyone seen anything like this, or know of something like this for
sale? I've asked the local pottery supply, and they don't know of
anything like this for sale by the manufacturer.

Wayne Rives
Peachtree City, GA

Olivia T Cavy on fri 23 oct 98

Wayne,

Paragon makes a square stand on wheels, which I bought when I bought my
Skutt 1027 2 plus years ago. It works fine, although due to the weight of
the kiln, you will be moving the kiln slowly. I was advised ahead of time
that it will increase the height of the kiln by about 6 inches. I need to
use a small step stool for loading and unloading because I can't reach
far into the kiln without it. I paid about $75 for the stand.
If you are making your own stand, remember that you will need to use
wheels that can handle the weight of the kiln. If you are buying those
wheels in the store, I found them to be expensive, so I didn't think the
price of the stand was out of line. It was easy to assemble, and the
hardest part was lifting the kiln to place it on the stand. The stand on
wheels replaces the metal stand that comes with the kiln.

The Paragon stand fit the Skutt kiln just fine. I used it in exactly the
way you've described. I used to store the kiln under the basement steps
when not in use, and rolled it out into the open when I fired. My
Envirovent was hooked up with flexible plastic clothes drying venting
hose which allowed the kiln to move around.

Bonnie

Bonnie D. Hellman
Pittsburgh, PA
work email: bdh@firstcaptl.com or oliviatcavy@juno.com
home email: mou10man@sgi.net

On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:05:56 EDT Wayne Rives
writes:
>----------------------------Original
>message----------------------------
>I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
>to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
>welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
>base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
>frame, and set the kiln on top.
>
>The idea is to move the kiln out of the way when it is not in use,
>not to skate it around the floor while it is hot!
>
>Anyone seen anything like this, or know of something like this for
>sale? I've asked the local pottery supply, and they don't know of
>anything like this for sale by the manufacturer.
>
>Wayne Rives
>Peachtree City, GA
>

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Frank Tucker on fri 23 oct 98

At 10:05 AM 10/22/98 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
>to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
>welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
>base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
>frame, and set the kiln on top.
>
>The idea is to move the kiln out of the way when it is not in use,
>not to skate it around the floor while it is hot!
>
>Anyone seen anything like this, or know of something like this for
>sale? I've asked the local pottery supply, and they don't know of
>anything like this for sale by the manufacturer.
>
>Wayne Rives
>Peachtree City, GA
>
>

Although your idea is quite common in both Europe and Asia, it is
unfortunately illegal for North American kiln manufacturers to provide you
with such an animal if we still wish the kiln to be either UL or CSA approved.
The reason is the potential strain on the power cord.
This does not mean that you can't do it - you just can't buy it.
If your kiln has a plug and receptacle arrangement then make sure you
always unplug the kiln BEFORE moving it. However, unplugging and
replugging the kiln over and over again will wear the receptacle parts
eventually - which is why CSA will not allow Canadian manufacturers to put
plugs on their kilns in the first place. Keep an eye on the receptacle for
wear and tear.
If your kiln is wired directly into a disconnect or some kind of box on
the wall then check out the gauge of your main power cable, go to your
local electrical supply store, and ask them for a "strain relief" for that
size of cable. This is a device that you will install directly on the end
of the cable as it enters the power supply. It is designed to take the
strain away from the cable so that you don't risk the connections in the
box coming loose.

Hope this helps you out.

Michael Leonard
Tucker's Pottery Supplies
tuckers@passport.ca

Sylvia See on fri 23 oct 98

I had a base made for an old skutt 1027 that I use to Raku with. However, I
made it with a metal top that the kiln sits on. Never have to worry about
the bottom rotting out and falling away. I wanted to move it in and out of
doors. I had a man make the base and put it on good wheels. Works like a
charm and you can get locking wheels, which I never use. I find it stays put
really well even with all the Raku activity. I did make a T bar out of wood
with grooves cut in the T and I slide that behind the wheels and pull the
kiln with the T bar. It can be hard on the kiln pulling it from the back bar
and you have to watch for the sections separating. The simple T bar made out
of scraps of 2x4 works great. Make sure you make it long enough so your not
bent to the ground.
The base is great for holding together my old rooten floor of the old kiln.
Sylvia See sylviac@telusplanet.net
Enjoying a great Indian Summer here.
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Rives
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 8:07 AM
Subject: Kilns on Wheels


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
frame, and set the kiln on top.

The idea is to move the kiln out of the way when it is not in use,
not to skate it around the floor while it is hot!

Anyone seen anything like this, or know of something like this for
sale? I've asked the local pottery supply, and they don't know of
anything like this for sale by the manufacturer.

Wayne Rives
Peachtree City, GA

bsmits on fri 23 oct 98

> My husband built a square frame with wheels on which my electric kiln,
> with its own metal legs attached, sits.

My space is limited too, and this allows me to move the kiln out of the way
when not in use, and to position it for maximum convenience when loading,
firing.

Brigita

Dwiggins, Sandra (NCI) on fri 23 oct 98

Wayne--
I was told that Skutt or Paragon(I can't remember which) sells just that sort of
thing, for that very reason. Bonnie Hellman mentioned it to me a while
ago---since I was thinking of doing the same thing. I don't know the cost, but
I'm sure if you have a welding outfit, you could probably do it much cheaper.
I would call Skutt and see what they've got.
Sandy

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Rives [SMTP:wrives@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 1998 10:06 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Kilns on Wheels

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
frame, and set the kiln on top.

The idea is to move the kiln out of the way when it is not in use,
not to skate it around the floor while it is hot!

Anyone seen anything like this, or know of something like this for
sale? I've asked the local pottery supply, and they don't know of
anything like this for sale by the manufacturer.

Wayne Rives
Peachtree City, GA

Lesley Hildreth on fri 23 oct 98

Wayne
You can buy the wheels on a frame at a hardware store. I bought some that were
specifically for a refrigerator. It is great to be able to push the kiln into
a corner when it is not needed and pull it out, away from the wall to use -
great space saver.
Lesley

Beryl Budnark on fri 23 oct 98

Wayne Rives wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
> to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
> welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
> base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
> frame, and set the kiln on top.
>
>
>
> Anyone seen anything like this,
>
> Wayne Rives
> Peachtree City, GA
Hi Wayne:
I have a 10 cu. kiln & a 4 1/2 c. kiln that use the same plug. A friend
welded high density wheels on the bottom of the frame of the small kiln
so it can be moved closer to the plug. Works great, the wheels have
been on the kiln for years & haven't been affected by the heat at all.
Give it a try.

Beryl Budnark..........Hamilton, Ont.

Kate Smith on sat 24 oct 98

We have put our electric Alpine on wheels. I made a 1 1/2 plywood deck
by laminating two sections of plywood together. I used 4 2" industrial
casters for wheels installed at the four corners of the platform. The
platform is slightly larger than the kiln. I placed a 6 X 12 X 1 patio
block over each corner. I fit a 28 gage sheet of "tin" over the platform
atop the patio block, and added an additional patio block at the corners.
We lifted the kiln onto the platform with its feet on the patio block.
Firing to Cone 8 the tin is almost above room temperature. The plywood
is always cool. We are very satisfied with its portability. Were I to
do it again I would consider casters with locks to prevent movement.
Movement has not been a problem I would just gard againt it.

Phil

Phil & Kate Smith
PotterSmiths'
White Bear Lake, MN

Marty Anderson on sat 24 oct 98

Wayne,

I have a Paragon kiln and one of the options when purchased was either a
stationary stand or one on wheels. I chose the stationary, and am now sorry
I did. I have seen what you describle at a Pottery, and it worked very
well.

Marty D/FW
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Rives
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 9:06 AM
Subject: Kilns on Wheels


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have a Skutt 1027 that I only use for bisque. In an attempt
to use my limited space more efficiently, I am considering
welding up an angle iron frame that will fit the existing stand
base measurements. I will mount 3 inch wheels on the angle iron
frame, and set the kiln on top.

The idea is to move the kiln out of the way when it is not in use,
not to skate it around the floor while it is hot!

Anyone seen anything like this, or know of something like this for
sale? I've asked the local pottery supply, and they don't know of
anything like this for sale by the manufacturer.

Wayne Rives
Peachtree City, GA

Amy Gossett on mon 26 oct 98

Yes I have casters on my little kiln, but I paid $6.00 ea. for mine at
Lowe's!
Great for those who have a kiln that needs to be moved outta the way when
not in firing mode!

Amy Gossett
Located in "Peachy" Albany, Georgia alongside the Flint River.
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Paula Sibrack on mon 26 oct 98

Wayne: When I moved into my present studo, since the space in small, my
husband equiped my electric kiln with casters. These are attached to each of
the 4 feet of the metal frame. When they kiln is firing, 2 of the casters
lock, so the placement in secure. When I don't need the kiln, it is rolled out
of the way. Quite convenient for a small space. Paula Sibrack Marian, Sherman,
CT

Timothy Dean Malm on mon 26 oct 98

Peter Meanley's salt kiln is stored in his garage and then wheeled outside
when he fires. He connects a flue to it and fires away. It is a very small
kiln but on wheels none-the-less.Cheers Tim Malm in Settle

Selma Sokolower on tue 27 oct 98

I put my Stoker kiln on wheels by having a metal fabricator weld iron bars
onto the proper size square and drill holes in the places where we attached
the casters. It works fine for my purposes which is to move it out of the way
to change furnace filters or put in a new furnace. I don't move it far
because my kiln is wired directly into the breaker but I do have a fairly long
cord,
Good luck, Selma

Richard Mahaffey on wed 14 jul 04


Earl,

Go for it. Kilns on wheels will work. There are lots of them in
Japan. Mainly for hobby potters. We have one at Tacoma Community
College. It fires to cone 10 just fine. I recommend that you move it
and then load it, but you already knew that. I plan to build one this
summer to do some glaze testing in my back yard.

Clay Art Center in Tacoma makes Raku kilns with wheels on them as well.

Best,
Rick Mahaffey
Tacoma, WA