Steve Dalton on sat 9 jan 99
Hello out there!
I just signed up with ClayArt, so hopefully I am doing this right.
I'm going to build my first kiln with c.9 or 10 reduction in mind,
and now I'm trying to figure out which type of fuel I want to use.
I know propane is somewhat easy, but I love the warmth and
look of woodfired. This kiln will be about 24-27 cubic feet,
usage space of about 16 or so cubic feet. Wood is not a problem,
my uncle has about 70-80 acres of trees(hemlock,fir,cedar and alder).
I'm hoping that someone out there has any ideas they could lend to me.
Oh yes, just incase more information is needed; I plan to build it with
the flat top design, and I also have Mr Olsen's 'The Kiln Book.'
Steve Dalton
sdpotter@gte.net
Stephen Grimmer on sun 10 jan 99
Steve,
Welcome to Clayart. I asked a similar question when I first subscribed
and was told to build an MFT by mel and others. It's a very good design;
mine (34 ft3, natural gas) fired like a champ first time out, never a
problem.
As I had just moved into a new house and studio, I had to build a kiln
and produce a body of work for a Christmas sale in just over two months. I
thought skipping the car and building the kiln with a brick up door would be
an economy of time and $$. After the tenth time bricking up the door, I
realized it was no savings. Build a car kiln. Only other piece of advice:
get Nils Lou's book, "The Art of Firing."
steve grimmer
marion illinois.
ps I'll send you my plans if you like.
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>From: Steve Dalton
>To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
>Subject: KILN BUILDING IDEAS
>Date: Sat, Jan 9, 1999, 2:52 PM
>
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello out there!
>I just signed up with ClayArt, so hopefully I am doing this right.
>I'm going to build my first kiln with c.9 or 10 reduction in mind,
>and now I'm trying to figure out which type of fuel I want to use.
>I know propane is somewhat easy, but I love the warmth and
>look of woodfired. This kiln will be about 24-27 cubic feet,
>usage space of about 16 or so cubic feet. Wood is not a problem,
>my uncle has about 70-80 acres of trees(hemlock,fir,cedar and alder).
>I'm hoping that someone out there has any ideas they could lend to me.
>Oh yes, just incase more information is needed; I plan to build it with
>the flat top design, and I also have Mr Olsen's 'The Kiln Book.'
>
>Steve Dalton
>sdpotter@gte.net
bluemoon on tue 12 jan 99
Steve, If your thinking about wood firing, best get some experience by
helping fire some one ealses kiln , they can be very labour intencive,
especially if you are getting wood from trees. Scrap wood from a saw
mill, kiln dride is easier. If your thinking flat top , check out Nils
lou's book the Art of Firing. I just built one of those MN. flat tops
and I love it , be sure to use ITC on the inside. Reg at Blue Moon
Mark Mondloch on tue 12 jan 99
Steve D.,
I'll second Steve G.'s advice. The cart is great. I'm firing this kiln with
propane. It works fine although I'm still struggling some to learn how to fire
gas.
If you're really drawn to wood-firing, there is something about wood-fire, and
gas burners just aren't the same. It is a commitment though. Your uncle's woods
is great, but I think many wood-firers find a source of wood where it's already
split small for you- like slab ends from a saw-mill- at least for the last part
of the firing. I think there's a big difference if you're interested in a
fast-fire type or one of the big mama's.
Question- Can someone tell me if the new edition of The Art of Firing contains
the MFT plans or all new material?
Sylvia
Stephen Grimmer wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Steve,
> Welcome to Clayart. I asked a similar question when I first subscribed
> and was told to build an MFT by mel and others. It's a very good design;
> mine (34 ft3, natural gas) fired like a champ first time out, never a
> problem.
> As I had just moved into a new house and studio, I had to build a kiln
> and produce a body of work for a Christmas sale in just over two months. I
> thought skipping the car and building the kiln with a brick up door would be
> an economy of time and $$. After the tenth time bricking up the door, I
> realized it was no savings. Build a car kiln. Only other piece of advice:
> get Nils Lou's book, "The Art of Firing."
>
> steve grimmer
> marion illinois.
>
> ps I'll send you my plans if you like.
>
> ----------
> >From: Steve Dalton
> >To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> >Subject: KILN BUILDING IDEAS
> >Date: Sat, Jan 9, 1999, 2:52 PM
> >
>
> >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >Hello out there!
> >I just signed up with ClayArt, so hopefully I am doing this right.
> >I'm going to build my first kiln with c.9 or 10 reduction in mind,
> >and now I'm trying to figure out which type of fuel I want to use.
> >I know propane is somewhat easy, but I love the warmth and
> >look of woodfired. This kiln will be about 24-27 cubic feet,
> >usage space of about 16 or so cubic feet. Wood is not a problem,
> >my uncle has about 70-80 acres of trees(hemlock,fir,cedar and alder).
> >I'm hoping that someone out there has any ideas they could lend to me.
> >Oh yes, just incase more information is needed; I plan to build it with
> >the flat top design, and I also have Mr Olsen's 'The Kiln Book.'
> >
> >Steve Dalton
> >sdpotter@gte.net
--
Mark & Sylvia Mondloch
Silver Creek Pottery & Forge
W6725 Hwy 144
Random Lake, WI 53075
mondfam@execpc.com
http://www.execpc.com/~mondfam
David Hendley on tue 12 jan 99
Steve, you are going about this the right way.
When building a kiln, your first decision is what fuel to use.
If you like the look of wood fired work, that might be a good
way to go. Remember, this is not a casual decision, because
you are committing yourself to lots and lots of work.
24 cubic feet is a tiny, tiny kiln for a wood fired kiln, and
I would suggest the "fastfire" design in Olsen's book as the
best design for a tiny wood kiln.
Although you certainly can go to your uncle's woodlot for
fuel for the kiln, this would be a tremendious amout
of work: cutting, hauling, spliting to kindling size, and stacking
to dry for months.
Most woodfirers do not do this. They search for fuel that
has already gone through some of the processing steps.
For instance, lumber scraps are already pretty small dimensions
and need to be split just a little more, and they are already
kiln dried.
I use waste boards from a pallet factory, even though I own
50 acres of woods out my back door. The scrap boards are
already a usable size and need no cutting or spliting, but
must be stacked to dry.
A friend of mine uses the scraps of wood left over from a
saddle factory (this is Texas, after all), and it's ready-to-use
when he gets it.
Best wishes and good luck,
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
hendley@tyler.net
http://www.farmpots.com
At 03:52 PM 1/9/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Hello out there!
>I just signed up with ClayArt, so hopefully I am doing this right.
>I'm going to build my first kiln with c.9 or 10 reduction in mind,
>and now I'm trying to figure out which type of fuel I want to use.
>I know propane is somewhat easy, but I love the warmth and
>look of woodfired. This kiln will be about 24-27 cubic feet,
>usage space of about 16 or so cubic feet. Wood is not a problem,
>my uncle has about 70-80 acres of trees(hemlock,fir,cedar and alder).
>I'm hoping that someone out there has any ideas they could lend to me.
>Oh yes, just incase more information is needed; I plan to build it with
>the flat top design, and I also have Mr Olsen's 'The Kiln Book.'
>
>Steve Dalton
>sdpotter@gte.net
>
Larry Phillips on wed 13 jan 99
David Hendley wrote:
> I use waste boards from a pallet factory, even though I own
> 50 acres of woods out my back door. The scrap boards are
> already a usable size and need no cutting or spliting, but
> must be stacked to dry.
Pallets do have one drawback, or at least around here they do. They are
made of some of the toughest, most ornery wood known to man. pulling
a pallet apart is, in my opinion, only slightly easier than running
a couiple of miles at full tilt.
Fortuately, there are a lot of cedar mills and cedar processing places
nearby, and the scraps are always free for the hauling.
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