Jim Horvitz on mon 17 aug 98
I want to make a group of large tiles to fit on a 20 inch diameter curved wall
.. I am concerned 1) getting the correct curvature, 2) preventing the
tiles from cracking during drying and 3) preventing warping during firing. Any
suggestions will be appreciated. Jim Horvitz Rancho Mirage Ca.
Cheryl L Litman on tue 18 aug 98
Buy a section of sonotube in the correct diameter and dry the tiles over
it. The tube is a thick cardboard used for pouring concrete footings and
columns. Home Depot carries smaller stuff but I doubt they have 20" -
some sort of industrial supplier perhaps.
Cheryl Litman
Somerset, NJ
email: cheryllitman@juno.com
On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:40:36 EDT Jim Horvitz writes:
>----------------------------Original
>message----------------------------
>I want to make a group of large tiles to fit on a 20 inch diameter
>curved wall
>. I am concerned 1) getting the correct curvature, 2) preventing
>the
>tiles from cracking during drying and 3) preventing warping during
>firing. Any
>suggestions will be appreciated. Jim Horvitz Rancho
>Mirage Ca.
>
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Barbara Lewis on tue 18 aug 98
Jim, As I have mentioned in an earlier, I am recently back from a workshop
with Peter King at his studio. It was one of the best, if not the best,
workshop I've attended. In an article in the December, 1985 CM, "An
Architectural Clay Studio," Peter describes a shower project. Peter carried
the slabs to the site where they were pressed into place. He then cut the
slabs into tiles, numbering them for easily assembly. The shrinkage became
the grout lines.
Jim, you might consider doing the same thing. If that is not possible, you
could build a model mimicking the exact dimensions of the wall.
As far as cracking and warping is concerned, after attending Peter's
workshop I am convinced that the secret is in the clay. A clay body with
between 20% and 30% grog could be the remedy.
BTW, I would highly recommend Peter's workshop. Every aspect was extremely
well organized -- from the initial written correspondence to the daily slide
presentations and projects to the many site visits of projects completed in
Pensacola. There were obvious advantages to attending the workshop in
Peter's studio: you get to see his innovative equipment and meet Nancy (his
office manager), John (his brother), and Corrine (his apprentice).
Together they work as a well-oiled machine. Two other things I appreciated
because the workshop was held at his private studio was the (1) nature of
his business and (2) the efficient use of the studio space. We participated
in the construction of a facade for a bread oven for his client, a local
doctor. While we were there, the client came and approved the wet clay
phase of the project. We also attending an installation of a bar front in a
client's home -- complete with the client serving us all Heineken and Red
Stripe beer!
Don't miss an opportunity to attend one of his workshops. Peter is one of
the finest human beings I've had the privilege to meet. Barbara
At 11:40 AM 8/17/98 EDT, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I want to make a group of large tiles to fit on a 20 inch diameter curved wall
>. I am concerned 1) getting the correct curvature, 2) preventing the
>tiles from cracking during drying and 3) preventing warping during firing. Any
>suggestions will be appreciated. Jim Horvitz Rancho Mirage Ca.
>
Wellspring Clayworks
5412 Well Spring Road
La Plata, MD 20646
blewis@crosslink.net
Joy Holdread on tue 18 aug 98
In a message dated 8/17/98 8:43:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
Hjh4blh@AOL.COM writes:
> ---------------------------Original message----------------------------
> I want to make a group of large tiles to fit on a 20 inch diameter curved
> wall
> . I am concerned 1) getting the correct curvature, 2) preventing the
> tiles from cracking during drying and 3) preventing warping during firing.
> Any suggestions will be appreciated. Jim Horvitz Rancho
Mirage Ca.
Jim,
I love challenges makes us grow. Sometimes bitter or crazy (Grin). 1) The
smaller the tiles the less curvature problems you'll have. The tiles should
be grooved sideways on the back to accept the massive amounts of thin set
buttered on the back to fit the curve. 2) I'd build a padded frame for larger
tiles that allows shrinkage & 3) fire on a prefired form that matches the
curve of the wall. Please, please keep us updated your project sounds like
great fun & something I might run into. PS talk to some commercial tile
setters about curved installs & find out what they do from their process
point.
JOY in Tucson still living with a tile mural taking up my living room, kitchen
& studio. Hope to install next week.
Eydie DeVincenzi on wed 19 aug 98
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Barbara:
=3C=3C
I am recently back from a workshop
with Peter King at his studio. It was one of the best, if not the best,
workshop I've attended.
=3E=3E
From your description of this workshop, the learning experience was more
than about tiles. Sounds like it was a great series of lessons about
studio operations and client relations=21
Where is his studio? Does he give these workshops often?
Eydie DeVincenzi
=22back at last to where the land meets the sea and where there is plenty of
oxygen molecules running about=22
Barbara Lewis on thu 20 aug 98
Eydie: His studio is in Pensacola. And, even though I promote the idea of
going to Pensacola if you can, if you cannot, Creative Clay Studios in
Alexandria, VA (right around the corner from you practically) will be
sponsoring a weekend workshop with Peter in October, 1999. He will be
building a fireplace surround. This year Peter gave three summer workshops.
His address is Stonehaus, 2617 N. 12th Avenue, Pensacola, FL 32503. His
office manager, Nancy, has her e-mail listed as nanlauck@aol.com. I don't
know if this is her personal e-mail or if it is the one for Stonehaus, but
I'm sure she could would give you any information you might need.
Also, not far from both of us is Peter's Ceramic Gateposts at Annmarie
Garden, Solomons Island, MD. Annmarie Garden is a Sculpture Garden located
on St. John's Creek, about 1/4 of a mile off Route 4 on Dowell Road in
Calvert County. On September 19 and 20 they will be having their Fifth
Annual Artsfest, an art and craft show with about 150 artists selling and
demonstrating their work. A great weekend, with really good work, a
beautiful drive, and an unusual concept for our neck of the works (the
sculpture garden, I mean). If you come down, look me up. I'll be on the
Path at location #34. There are a number of major pieces of sculpture in
the Garden, definitely worth the trip even if you can't make the weekend.
Peter's Gate Posts are magnificent and are purported as being the largest
freestanding ceramic piece in the United States. Hope to see you there.
Barbara
At 09:39 AM 8/19/98 EDT, you wrote:
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>Barbara:
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> I am recently back from a workshop
>with Peter King at his studio. It was one of the best, if not the best,
>workshop I've attended.
>>>
>
>>From your description of this workshop, the learning experience was more
>than about tiles. Sounds like it was a great series of lessons about
>studio operations and client relations!
>
>Where is his studio? Does he give these workshops often?
>
>Eydie DeVincenzi
>"back at last to where the land meets the sea and where there is plenty of
>oxygen molecules running about"
>
Wellspring Clayworks
5412 Well Spring Road
La Plata, MD 20646
blewis@crosslink.net
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