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building vs commercial kilns

updated wed 25 nov 98

 

Theodore Banton on thu 19 nov 98

Hello all of you clay heads. I have quite a perdicament.

I enrolled for an independent study at Flagler College in St. Augustine for
next semester. The plan was to design a 15 cubic foot catenary Arch Soda
kiln. The plan was to fire to ^10. I was also going to build two Ceramic
fiber kiln for the American version of Raku.

I found an old kiln built approximately to the same dimensions for 800
dollars. The problem lies in the fact that the Plant manager and Business
Director feel that it would be a better idea to buy a brand new kiln.

What I need is documentation of negative experiences some of you all have had
with commercially manufactured kilns. I plan on using the issue of cost, the
effiecy rating, strenght of the catenary arch, and the issue of the soda
application.

If you all have anything I can use to get my little dragon built I will
greatly appreciate it.

Earl Brunner on sat 21 nov 98

Vapor glazing can be very corrosive on the interior of most commercial kilns,
(soft brick or fiber) You could coat with ITC (the wonder coatings for kilns,
arthritis and what ever else ails you). My understanding is that normally vapor
glazing kilns are still made of hard brick, but then I could be and no doubt am
way behind the times. Commercial kilns are very expensive for that type of
treatment.

Theodore Banton wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello all of you clay heads. I have quite a perdicament.
>
> I enrolled for an independent study at Flagler College in St. Augustine for
> next semester. The plan was to design a 15 cubic foot catenary Arch Soda
> kiln. The plan was to fire to ^10. I was also going to build two Ceramic
> fiber kiln for the American version of Raku.
>
> I found an old kiln built approximately to the same dimensions for 800
> dollars. The problem lies in the fact that the Plant manager and Business
> Director feel that it would be a better idea to buy a brand new kiln.
>
> What I need is documentation of negative experiences some of you all have had
> with commercially manufactured kilns. I plan on using the issue of cost, the
> effiecy rating, strenght of the catenary arch, and the issue of the soda
> application.
>
> If you all have anything I can use to get my little dragon built I will
> greatly appreciate it.

Earl Brunner on sat 21 nov 98

Have no bad experiences with my commercial kiln, just wouldn't vapr glaze in it.

Theodore Banton wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello all of you clay heads. I have quite a perdicament.
>
> I enrolled for an independent study at Flagler College in St. Augustine for
> next semester. The plan was to design a 15 cubic foot catenary Arch Soda
> kiln. The plan was to fire to ^10. I was also going to build two Ceramic
> fiber kiln for the American version of Raku.
>
> I found an old kiln built approximately to the same dimensions for 800
> dollars. The problem lies in the fact that the Plant manager and Business
> Director feel that it would be a better idea to buy a brand new kiln.
>
> What I need is documentation of negative experiences some of you all have had
> with commercially manufactured kilns. I plan on using the issue of cost, the
> effiecy rating, strenght of the catenary arch, and the issue of the soda
> application.
>
> If you all have anything I can use to get my little dragon built I will
> greatly appreciate it.

Leslie Norton on tue 24 nov 98

I have always thought that the main purpose of going to school was to learn
and learn how to learn. If your independent study is to learn about
building kilns, I don't see how buying a kiln will help you. Building your
own kiln gives you an opportunity to research, explore and experiment, a
commercial kiln will not. Building your own kiln will give you confidence
and understanding of how kilns "really" work and understanding the "fire" is
as important as understanding the clay.

If the school's purpose is to help you learn, they should be pushing you,
with both hands, away from any commercial kilns and towards a big pile of
bricks!!

Good luck with your Dragon.
Leslie Norton

"Technique and skills must be absorbed and wrapped up and put away to
become such an integral part of yourself that they will be revealed in
your work without your thought"
Shoji Hamada


-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Brunner [mailto:bruec@anv.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 1998 6:40 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: BUILDING vs COMMERCIAL KILNS


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Vapor glazing can be very corrosive on the interior of most commercial
kilns,
(soft brick or fiber) You could coat with ITC (the wonder coatings for
kilns,
arthritis and what ever else ails you). My understanding is that normally
vapor
glazing kilns are still made of hard brick, but then I could be and no doubt
am
way behind the times. Commercial kilns are very expensive for that type of
treatment.

Theodore Banton wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hello all of you clay heads. I have quite a perdicament.
>
> I enrolled for an independent study at Flagler College in St. Augustine
for
> next semester. The plan was to design a 15 cubic foot catenary Arch Soda
> kiln. The plan was to fire to ^10. I was also going to build two Ceramic
> fiber kiln for the American version of Raku.
>
> I found an old kiln built approximately to the same dimensions for 800
> dollars. The problem lies in the fact that the Plant manager and Business
> Director feel that it would be a better idea to buy a brand new kiln.
>
> What I need is documentation of negative experiences some of you all have
had
> with commercially manufactured kilns. I plan on using the issue of cost,
the
> effiecy rating, strenght of the catenary arch, and the issue of the soda
> application.
>
> If you all have anything I can use to get my little dragon built I will
> greatly appreciate it.