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baking plasticine?

updated wed 13 jan 99

 

Leslie Ihde on thu 7 jan 99

A child made some lovely family portraits in plasticine. I'd love to
mount them on black foam core for her, but I understand plasticine just
spreads like cookies in the oven and won't cook like sculpy. Does any one
know how to make this stuff a bit more permanent for her, so I could mount
a wall plaque for her. I have been working with her in "clay therapy" and
she is doing very well. To see her work mounted would be a nice
encouragement. Our future work will use sculpy.

Thanks for any tips
Leslie Ihde

Marcia Selsor on thu 7 jan 99

The plasticene is primarily for taking a mold from the original. If you
cast these portraits, you could them make press molds from the cast.
Marci in Montana

Leslie Ihde wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> A child made some lovely family portraits in plasticine. I'd love to
> mount them on black foam core for her, but I understand plasticine just
> spreads like cookies in the oven and won't cook like sculpy. Does any one
> know how to make this stuff a bit more permanent for her, so I could mount
> a wall plaque for her. I have been working with her in "clay therapy" and
> she is doing very well. To see her work mounted would be a nice
> encouragement. Our future work will use sculpy.
>
> Thanks for any tips
> Leslie Ihde

--
Marcia Selsor
mjbmls@imt.net
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls
http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/spain99.html

the Gallaghers on fri 8 jan 99

Hi,
Plasticine will melt in the oven as it is made of oil mixed with clay, but
if you are intent upon saving the originals and not casting them as
suggested by another response, you could create a little frame from your
foam core board, and then cover it with clear plastic wrap to keep the dust
off.
The plasticine figures should not change their shape unless the are left in
the sun or squashed. I have had a plasticine sculpture wrapped in plastic
food wrap for over a year now without any changes to it.
Mounting could be a challenge, try using thin floral wire pushed through to
the foam core to hold them in place.

Michelle
-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie Ihde
To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 6:25 AM
Subject: baking plasticine?


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
A child made some lovely family portraits in plasticine. I'd love to
mount them on black foam core for her, but I understand plasticine just
spreads like cookies in the oven and won't cook like sculpy. Does any one
know how to make this stuff a bit more permanent for her, so I could mount
a wall plaque for her. I have been working with her in "clay therapy" and
she is doing very well. To see her work mounted would be a nice
encouragement. Our future work will use sculpy.

Thanks for any tips
Leslie Ihde

Kristin Doner on fri 8 jan 99

Leslie,

Two thoughts:
Mounting: Possibly try mounting in one of the plastic box frames
Future Projects: Sculpy is such a different media than plasticine
that your student will have a new learning curve. Another alternative
is the air dry clay that is much closer to real clay in it's properties.
I think most of the clay suppliers now offer an air dry clay, and it's
cheaper than sculpy too.

k
-----------
Kristin Doner
mudwoman@lmi.net

Thonas C. Curran on fri 8 jan 99

No, you can't bake plasticine, but what about making a plaster of paris
mold? If the portraits are flat relief, should be a cinch as you can
make a simple one part mold in plaster (being sure there are no
undercuts on the original before you make the mold). You can press
regular clay into the negative mold form, or you can use Sculpey (at
least for small things). In my miniature pottery production days, I used
this technique with a replication of an Egyptian bust that was about an
inch high, and the Sculpey worked fine for that. My original sculpting
was in regular clay, then I did the mold.Isn't Sculpey awfully expensive
for anything which is bigger? If the pieces are simple yet not suitable
for one piece mold, you might try a two piece mold. Do you work with
regular clay? If so, you could try your hand with slip casting from the
plaster mold. Hope this helps a bit. CNC

Bob Wicks on fri 8 jan 99

In a message dated 1/7/99 9:50:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
lihde@binghamton.edu writes:

<< Leslie Ihde >>
Hi Leslie:
I would suggest that you make a plaster mold with a low relief sculpted design
out of plasticene. This way the student will learn a new method of production
and will also see a nice finished product as a result of the endeavor and can
make copies for the family. Use the mold as a press mold or slip casting.
The plasticene pattern should have no undercuts.

Good luck.

Bobwicks@aol.com

J. Carl Meigs on fri 8 jan 99


Plastiline or plasticine can also be used as the transitional model for a
rubber mold for
plaster casting. Not inexpensive. I have used Smooth-on's "Brush on 50"
which runs about
70-80 $ per gallon. It produces a urethane rubber mold that will allow you
to make
several casts. It's a several step process. e-mail me if you are
interested in more details.
A press mold can be cast when the plasticine model is heavily and smoothly
coated with petroleum jelly.Be sure to leave no unwanted "wrinkles" in the
vaseline because it will be picked up by the
plaster.

Good luck
Carl Meigs
Brooklyn, CT






At 09:44 AM 1/7/99 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>The plasticene is primarily for taking a mold from the original. If you
>cast these portraits, you could them make press molds from the cast.
>Marci in Montana
>
>Leslie Ihde wrote:
>>
>> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>> A child made some lovely family portraits in plasticine. I'd love to
>> mount them on black foam core for her, but I understand plasticine just
>> spreads like cookies in the oven and won't cook like sculpy. Does any one
>> know how to make this stuff a bit more permanent for her, so I could mount
>> a wall plaque for her. I have been working with her in "clay therapy" and
>> she is doing very well. To see her work mounted would be a nice
>> encouragement. Our future work will use sculpy.
>>
>> Thanks for any tips
>> Leslie Ihde
>
>--
>Marcia Selsor
>mjbmls@imt.net
>http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls
>http://www.imt.net/~mjbmls/spain99.html
>
>

Ric Swenson on tue 12 jan 99

Plasticine sculpture might best be preserved by reproducing it in
another more durable medium. ie. make a plater cast mold and then soap
it up and make plaster duplicate ....(watching for undercuts of
course...so that the piece will release form the mold.) or even make a
plaster mold, make a wax model and then have it cast in aluminum or
bronze!

Just a thought.

Regards,

Ric Swenson
artsovt@sover.net

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the Gallaghers wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi,
> Plasticine will melt in the oven as it is made of oil mixed with clay, but
> if you are intent upon saving the originals and not casting them as
> suggested by another response, you could create a little frame from your
> foam core board, and then cover it with clear plastic wrap to keep the dust
> off.
> The plasticine figures should not change their shape unless the are left in
> the sun or squashed. I have had a plasticine sculpture wrapped in plastic
> food wrap for over a year now without any changes to it.
> Mounting could be a challenge, try using thin floral wire pushed through to
> the foam core to hold them in place.
>
> Michelle
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Ihde
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 6:25 AM
> Subject: baking plasticine?
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> A child made some lovely family portraits in plasticine. I'd love to
> mount them on black foam core for her, but I understand plasticine just
> spreads like cookies in the oven and won't cook like sculpy. Does any one
> know how to make this stuff a bit more permanent for her, so I could mount
> a wall plaque for her. I have been working with her in "clay therapy" and
> she is doing very well. To see her work mounted would be a nice
> encouragement. Our future work will use sculpy.
>
> Thanks for any tips
> Leslie Ihde