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a little help for the profoundly challenged. (re shino)

updated thu 10 dec 98

 

Chess Denman on sun 29 nov 98

A few facts.
1.) I have a self built 20cuft propane down draft kiln
2.) I fire with a pyrometer mostly (not cones - yes I know about heat work
but things go ok)
3) I have never even seen! a shino (I told you I was challenged)


Now,
I was doing a lot of glaze tests one day and I came across a reciept that
said Shino. So, for a complete "pig in a poke" I made it up and fired it in
my usual way (8-9 h total time top temperature 1270 reduction 3inch flame at
peep starts at 1000 Getting a bit less at top temperature tichy flame or
just negative draw).
Out came a test pot which had orangey tan round the rim and a smooth
exquisite grey white in the middle. As I write I am firing again and have
some larger pieces in for a second test.

Is this what I was meant to have?

Chess.

Karen Gringhuis on mon 30 nov 98

Chess - I LOVE your pig-in-a-poke daring! Yes, depending on the
recipe, that's what you were meant to have. I use porcelain
Shino which is dark orangey where thin getting more toward whitish
as it gets thicker. It also carbon traps beautifully - this is a
smokey look right in the glaze depending on the reduction. It's
a gift of the gods or a very skilled firerer.

If you want some more fun, gather up several shino recipes
mix some test batches and fire them all at the same time
(for comparability) - be sure each test has some thin & some thick.
We did this once at Evanston & it was great fun to compare results.
How-much-wood-would-a-woodchuck-chuck or how many different shino
recipes can you come up with?? I can send you Porcelain/
David-Shaner-used, Wirt and Gustin Revised.

On the other hand maybe I should shut up and let you just
sit down 'til the urge passes.
But you deserve a prize for trying one. Karen Gringhuis

Stacey Klopp on wed 2 dec 98

yep, thats pretty much a shino. did you get any "freckles"? these spots are
from any iron in the clay body, usually called iron spots. shinos can range in
colors depending on what the creator of the recipe was looking for. look at
some books on asian ceramics. i once came across a great book on "oribe and
shino" glazes that was loaded with pictures. im not sure where to find it
again but if you are interested i might be able to get info on it from a
friend that does still have access to that book.also check out old issues of
CM magazine, you might find something in there. i know that baltimore
clayworks had a show maybe a year or so ago that focused on shinos and had an
article in ceramics monthly about it. shinos can be absolutly beautiful when
they work but when they dont..boy are they ugly.........you decide though. im
still chasing for the perfect shino
goodluck..........stacey in new jersey, wishing i was somewhere else

ps: reduction atmosphere also plays a big part in the outcome

Tom Wirt on sat 5 dec 98

snip>some books on asian ceramics. i once came across a great book on "oribe and
>shino" glazes that was loaded with pictures. im not sure where to find it
>again but if you are interested i might be able to get info on it from a
snip

The book I think you are referring was published by Kodansha as part of a series
on the great pottery traditions of Japan. It was book 12 of the series "Famous
Ceramics of Japan" and was written by Ryoji Kuroda. It has been out of print
for some time.

Tom

Lee Love on wed 9 dec 98

I'm getting good results from a clay body with ochre in it. It fires
dark brown and the shinos come out warm & with a nice peach color.

If you don't want to use an ochre clay body, try making a slip out of the
clay body and about 5% ochre.

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