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need alternative technique or product (latex)

updated thu 23 jul 98

 

Fabienne on tue 21 jul 98

Hello,

I am posting for a friend who doesn't have access to the Internet. She has
made a wonderful set of bowls and jars with an intricate/detailed pattern
around the rim that she wants to glaze a different color than the rest of
the ware. She used latex to coat the pattern. But, when time came to peel
the latex off before glazing the pattern, it was really messy and some of
it would not come off. There doesn't appear to be any undercuts that latex
could not handle.

She also tried wax resist, but there just was no clear cut between the 2
glazes after firing. I read in the archive that there are ways to put
"walls" between lines, but it never states wether or not the "wall" area
would remain unglazed even after its removal?

Any suggestions?

TIA :)
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Cindy on wed 22 jul 98

Fabienne,

Yes, the "wall" between the glazes would remain unglazed, or colored with
whatever oxides were added to the wax resist. Two things she can try that I
know of--Glaze the rim, then wax the glazed area and glaze the remainder of
the bowl, or alter the glazes for brushing (add some CMC and/or glycerin)
and glaze using a banding wheel and a brush.

Cindy Strnad
Earthen Vessels
Custer, SD
USA http://blackhills-info.com/a/cindys/menu.htm

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> From: Fabienne
> To: CLAYART@LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Need Alternative Technique or Product (Latex)
> Date: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 10:38 PM
>
> Hello,
>
> I am posting for a friend who doesn't have access to the Internet. She
has
> made a wonderful set of bowls and jars with an intricate/detailed pattern
> around the rim that she wants to glaze a different color than the rest of
> the ware. She used latex to coat the pattern. But, when time came to
peel
> the latex off before glazing the pattern, it was really messy and some of
> it would not come off. There doesn't appear to be any undercuts that
latex
> could not handle.
>
> She also tried wax resist, but there just was no clear cut between the 2
> glazes after firing. I read in the archive that there are ways to put
> "walls" between lines, but it never states wether or not the "wall" area
> would remain unglazed even after its removal?
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> TIA :)
> `,,`,,`,,`,,`
> Fabienne | Yes, I have learned from my
> http://www.vivelafrance.org | mistakes...
> | I can reproduce them exactly.

Berry Silverman on wed 22 jul 98

Fabienne wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am posting for a friend who doesn't have access to the Internet.
She has
> made a wonderful set of bowls and jars with an intricate/detailed
pattern
> around the rim that she wants to glaze a different color than the
rest of
> the ware. She used latex to coat the pattern. But, when time came
to peel
> the latex off before glazing the pattern, it was really messy and
some of
> it would not come off. There doesn't appear to be any undercuts
that latex
> could not handle.
>

We do a lot of work with latex and find it works well, but there are a
few tricks. If your friend is having trouble getting the latex off,
she should apply it more thickly. Don't let the brush get dry or let
it taper off into a thin application. Keep the brush loaded well with
latex. Also, we have the best success removing the latex while the
last coat of glaze is still damp. If you let it dry hard, then it
sometimes chips off when you removes the latex.

There is a product called GlazeLine which will forms a barrier wall
between two glazes. After firing there is still an unglazed section
between the two glazes where the GlazeLine was applied.
==
Berry Silverman
Berryware - Tucson, Arizona
berrysilverman@yahoo.com
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amy parker on wed 22 jul 98

>I am posting for a friend who doesn't have access to the Internet. She has
>made a wonderful set of bowls and jars with an intricate/detailed pattern
>around the rim that she wants to glaze a different color than the rest of
>the ware.
>Any suggestions?

Has your friend tried glazing the detailed rim first? She could wipe off
any glaze overruns thoroughly, then wax the glazed area & dip or whatever
the main portion.
amy parker Lithonia, GA
amyp@sd-software.com