Penny Hosler on wed 18 mar 98
I want to paint with Mason stains and use a clear glaze over
them. I'm getting 3 diffferent opinions/recipes on how to mix
up the stain. Before I waste a lot of raw material $$ and time
I'd sure appreciate some more input. This is what I've
read/been told so far:
1 - Recipe for SodaSpar, Kaolin, Frit, anti-freeze, stain,
water and CMC
2- Recipe for frit, EPK, stain, and laundry starch
3- Just CMC, water and stain
Are any of these preferable in terms of ease of application or
final results? Also, if I'm able to go with #3, is there a
rough % figure out there for the CMC/water ratio? (I've
already been in the archives, see #1 and #2). TIA
Penny in Sequim WA
pshosler@olypen.com
Abbey of New Clairvaux on thu 19 mar 98
Penny, I put 12 grams of dry cmc in one quart of hot water and then let it
sit for a few days. After that I add 3 teaspoons of the solution to 100
grams of dry glaze. I don't know if that will be of help.
-----Original Message-----
From: Penny Hosler
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 6:17 AM
Subject: CMC vs. Other Stuff
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I want to paint with Mason stains and use a clear glaze over
>them. I'm getting 3 diffferent opinions/recipes on how to mix
>up the stain. Before I waste a lot of raw material $$ and time
>I'd sure appreciate some more input. This is what I've
>read/been told so far:
>
>1 - Recipe for SodaSpar, Kaolin, Frit, anti-freeze, stain,
>water and CMC
>2- Recipe for frit, EPK, stain, and laundry starch
>3- Just CMC, water and stain
>
>Are any of these preferable in terms of ease of application or
>final results? Also, if I'm able to go with #3, is there a
>rough % figure out there for the CMC/water ratio? (I've
>already been in the archives, see #1 and #2). TIA
>
>Penny in Sequim WA
>pshosler@olypen.com
Arturo M DeVitalis on thu 19 mar 98
Penny this doesn't answer you questions, but after seeing some georgeous
work at a recent show, cone 5 elec. Duncan E-Z Stroke with clear over, I
was amazed! She has a graphic arts background, and using the Duncan
products on Highwater clay her drawings were like posters; lithographs;
etc.etc....all animal faces in great detail and great colors.
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Linhares on thu 19 mar 98
Hi Penny,
I use CMC mixture in my slips and in homemade underglazes. The mix is
100 grams to1 US Gallon of hot water, and it is let to sit and
dissolve for several days into a viscus honey colored liquid. I have
heard of poeple using anti-freeze but the CMC alone does the job for
me.
Paul in Morgantown, WV
Stephen Mills on thu 19 mar 98
Penny,
Start with the simplest (#3) and see if it works, it should do. Likewise
start with about 2% CMC.
In message , Penny Hosler writes
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I want to paint with Mason stains and use a clear glaze over
>them. I'm getting 3 diffferent opinions/recipes on how to mix
>up the stain. Before I waste a lot of raw material $$ and time
>I'd sure appreciate some more input. This is what I've
>read/been told so far:
>
>1 - Recipe for SodaSpar, Kaolin, Frit, anti-freeze, stain,
>water and CMC
>2- Recipe for frit, EPK, stain, and laundry starch
>3- Just CMC, water and stain
>
>Are any of these preferable in terms of ease of application or
>final results? Also, if I'm able to go with #3, is there a
>rough % figure out there for the CMC/water ratio? (I've
>already been in the archives, see #1 and #2). TIA
>
>Penny in Sequim WA
>pshosler@olypen.com
>
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ATCRIST on thu 19 mar 98
In response to Penny's question about what to mix stains with which are then
painted on bisqueware and covered with clear glaze, I've used the following
mix: 1 part stain to 2 parts gerstley borate or frit, mix with water and then
add a little CMC. This worked ok. I got a nice water color like effect but it
was hard to brush a clear glaze over since the stains wanted to powder off or
smudge. I didn't try spraying. I've used this same mix with the laundry
starch in majolica painting and it worked great. But on bisque I liked the
flow of the CMC better. About anti-freeze, use the propylene glycol kind. I've
experimented with it in glazes that i've wanted to brush on and got some very
strange results. Some glazes it did not effect at all, but others it caused to
blister. I know this answer doesn't get you out of testing, but I'd at least
eliminate the anti freeze option.
Beverly in Dallas
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