Elizabeth Schapansky on thu 5 mar 98
Hi clayarters;
After being with the group for more than a year now; I want to say that I
have learned to know a number of you by reputation as well as insight from
your e-mails; and I feel priveleged to learn from you all.
I started my studio late in 1995 and am still struggling to find my market
niche. Having moved to a new province in Dec. of last year, I am
considering (after much urging by perspective students) taking on a
teaching role to help make ends meet.
Because I have only the one wheel and small studio space in my basement, I
felt that private lessons might be the way to go. I haven't taught before
(other than my sister) and would really appreciate some input on what to
charge a student for a three hour session once a week. If I put the price
too high I'm sure I won't have any students, but if I charge too little it
means that the time away from my production won't be cost effective.
Any other advice on teaching methods etc. would also be very much
appreciated.
Thanks so much all.
Elizabeth Schapansky
Clay Vision
Swan Hills, AB
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MBRME on fri 6 mar 98
Hi Elizabeth,
I am new to this loop, but I curently have my daughter in a potting class, not
private, but the cost is $50.00 for Six,, One hour classes,, so about $9.00
per hour, but I would pay a little more it they were private,, say $12.00 per
hour.. or maybe you could do some sort of sliding scale,, for less fortunated
children,, hmm maybe even Two classes per week, on for children & one for
adults... charge a little less for kids..
she charges $70.00 for Six,, 1 1/2 hour classes.. so I hope I helped,, Maryann
Yvonne M. Pund on sun 8 mar 98
Sorry to but in but I can't resist giving input in this area. $12. an
hour for private pottery lessons is a give away. Dance lesson, Violin
Lessons, etc. cost upwards of $35 an hour for private. After all the time
and experience a potter has put into developing his/her skills, not to
mention the expensive equipment and supplies we should not be giving away
our profession. Now I am not saying that occasional workshops for
children in need is not a good idea. How do others feel about this. I
guess that is why you very seldom see pottery classes and workshops in our
area of the country. Yvonne
DONPREY on mon 9 mar 98
In a message dated 3/8/98 11:10:52 AM, you wrote:
<hour for private pottery lessons is a give away. Dance lesson, Violin
Lessons, etc. cost upwards of $35 an hour for private. After all the time
and experience a potter has put into developing his/her skills, not to
mention the expensive equipment and supplies we should not be giving away
our profession. Now I am not saying that occasional workshops for
children in need is not a good idea. How do others feel about this. I
guess that is why you very seldom see pottery classes and workshops in our
area of the country. Yvonne>>
Yvonne. Like most things, it's all relative. I am presently earning 11 to
$12 and hour teaching at a small art center and at a private home. At the
center, the class size is 8 or 9 adults and the other is 4 to 5 adults. These
are three hour classes once a week. I also give the occasional private lesson
for the same hourly rate. In my case, I teach as much for my own benefit as
my students. I enjoy teaching, have a flexible schedule and can educate
people about the complexities and joys of clay work for a modest fee (along
the way I also learn a lot myself). I feel that I am adequately compensated.
However, If I needed to depend upon this income as a serious part of my living
expenses things would be different (that is to say, if I were teaching as a
profession). It would be especially so, if I lived in a larger metropolitan
area where living expenses are higher. In that case, I believe the hourly
rate would be higher and the student population would be different (more
affluent). I believe that there are substantial differences in hourly rates
within the towns, cities and states in the US......depending upon all the
usual variables. Just some thoughts before lunch.
Don Prey in Oregon
ClayArt Moderator on thu 23 jul 98
Edouard Bastarache says:
>there was a mistake in my last message, i meant:
>why not charge the same amount a piano or a music player would charge.
>
>Edouard Bastarache
>edouardb@sorel-tracy.qc.ca
>http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/
Susan Fox Hirschmann on tue 26 jun 07
In a message dated 6/26/2007 6:02:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mudman@HAL-PC.ORG writes:
I have been gradually increasing my prices over the years and I still
probably don't charge enough. I teach private lessons in my studio for
either one, two or three people at a time. My fee is $35/hr for one,
$50/hr for two and $60/hr for three. Keep in mind that this pricing is
reasonable for the general cost of things in our fair city...........if,
on the other hand, I were offering private lessons in an area with a
much higher cost of living such as the San Franscisco Bay area or New
York City, my prices would need to be substantially higher..
My prices here in Northern Virginia for private lessons are $50. an hour,
plus a $30 materials fee for a 6 week session, each class lasting 2 hours. I
figure it is not only the "personal attention" and one on one they receive, but
the time preparing for them and clean up to get back to my own work.
With personal trainers around here charging $85. an hour and up, I am feeling
my prices are reasonable.
Susan
Annandale, VA
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sacredclay on tue 26 jun 07
Curious to know how much does one charge per person per hour for
private ceramic lessons.My boss is letting me keep the profits, just
pay for the clay, no extra charge for glazing and firing. Kathryn in
NC
Elizabeth Priddy on tue 26 jun 07
I charge the going rate for piano lessons in my area.
Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7973282@N03/
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From: sacredclay
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:55:36 PM
Subject: Private lessons
Curious to know how much does one charge per person per hour for
private ceramic lessons.My boss is letting me keep the profits, just
pay for the clay, no extra charge for glazing and firing. Kathryn in
NC
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Craig Clark on tue 26 jun 07
I have been gradually increasing my prices over the years and I still
probably don't charge enough. I teach private lessons in my studio for
either one, two or three people at a time. My fee is $35/hr for one,
$50/hr for two and $60/hr for three. Keep in mind that this pricing is
reasonable for the general cost of things in our fair city...........if,
on the other hand, I were offering private lessons in an area with a
much higher cost of living such as the San Franscisco Bay area or New
York City, my prices would need to be substantially higher..
Hope this helps
Craig Dunn Clark
619 East 11 1/2 St
Houston, Texas 77008
(713)861-2083
mudman@hal-pc.org
sacredclay wrote:
> Curious to know how much does one charge per person per hour for
> private ceramic lessons.My boss is letting me keep the profits, just
> pay for the clay, no extra charge for glazing and firing. Kathryn in
> NC
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sacredclay on wed 27 jun 07
I realized that I'm undercharging. It's $25 per hour per two people
(parent/child) with ten dollar per additional person per hour. I
honestly didn't know how much to charge. Some people were acting like
I was charging for diamonds when I said $30 per person per hour. Go
figures. Thanks! Kathryn in NC --- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Craig
Clark wrote:
>
> I have been gradually increasing my prices over the years and I
still
> probably don't charge enough. I teach private lessons in my studio
for
> either one, two or three people at a time. My fee is $35/hr for one,
> $50/hr for two and $60/hr for three. Keep in mind that this pricing
is
> reasonable for the general cost of things in our fair
city...........if,
> on the other hand, I were offering private lessons in an area with a
> much higher cost of living such as the San Franscisco Bay area or
New
> York City, my prices would need to be substantially higher..
> Hope this helps
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 St
> Houston, Texas 77008
> (713)861-2083
> mudman@...
>
> sacredclay wrote:
> > Curious to know how much does one charge per person per hour for
> > private ceramic lessons.My boss is letting me keep the profits,
just
> > pay for the clay, no extra charge for glazing and firing. Kathryn
in
> > NC
> >
> >
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Richard Walker on wed 27 jun 07
For what it is worth, I charge between $250 and $300 for a two week course per person. $300 for one or $250 each for two. That includes six lessons, three per week, for two hours each day. I also allow studio time for practice at no charge but they supply their own clay. The cost includes firing and glazing using my kilns and glazes. Instruction of course includes loading and unloading the kilns, glazing, glaze mixing and formulas for glazes. I also offer time for simple handbuilding techniques, pulling handles, and demo's using extruders. The costs are minimal, I believe, but the rewards and satisfaction of teaching are worth every minute. I have yet to have anyone leave without a smile on their face and a feeling of acomplishment, and some have even come back to work for a time as aprentices.
Enjoy every moment of each day!
Dick Walker
Muddy Duck Pottery
>From: sacredclay
>Date: 2007/06/26 Tue PM 07:20:30 CDT
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Re: Private lessons
>I realized that I'm undercharging. It's $25 per hour per two people
>(parent/child) with ten dollar per additional person per hour. I
>honestly didn't know how much to charge. Some people were acting like
>I was charging for diamonds when I said $30 per person per hour. Go
>figures. Thanks! Kathryn in NC --- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Craig
>Clark wrote:
>>
>> I have been gradually increasing my prices over the years and I
>still
>> probably don't charge enough. I teach private lessons in my studio
>for
>> either one, two or three people at a time. My fee is $35/hr for one,
>> $50/hr for two and $60/hr for three. Keep in mind that this pricing
>is
>> reasonable for the general cost of things in our fair
>city...........if,
>> on the other hand, I were offering private lessons in an area with a
>> much higher cost of living such as the San Franscisco Bay area or
>New
>> York City, my prices would need to be substantially higher..
>> Hope this helps
>> Craig Dunn Clark
>> 619 East 11 1/2 St
>> Houston, Texas 77008
>> (713)861-2083
>> mudman@...
>>
>> sacredclay wrote:
>> > Curious to know how much does one charge per person per hour for
>> > private ceramic lessons.My boss is letting me keep the profits,
>just
>> > pay for the clay, no extra charge for glazing and firing. Kathryn
>in
>> > NC
>> >
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Elizabeth Priddy on wed 27 jun 07
I structure my classes according to piano classes
because it is what the consumer is used to.
But they are $25 for 30 minutes, so I am $50 per hour
with a 4 hour minimum for adult lessons.
It keeps the people who are not serious about it away
and that is good when you have a toddler. I am not
providing a public craft center, so they take all their
stuff with them as well.
It is more profitable for me to run a class and charge
for firing and studio fee. They still take their stuff, but
I offer open studio time.
At least keep up with the other art based professionals
in your area. And for kids, if there is a kid who really
loves it, cut them a break if they need it. It could be an
important relationship for the kid. I have had two young
students go from middle school all the way to college before
they move away. My current student cuts my grass in trade
for his lessons, and he has built three kilns with me, so
keep an eye out for someone who really loves it. They
may be with you for a long time.
Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
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----- Original Message ----
From: sacredclay
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:20:30 PM
Subject: Re: Private lessons
I realized that I'm undercharging. It's $25 per hour per two people
(parent/child) with ten dollar per additional person per hour. I
honestly didn't know how much to charge. Some people were acting like
I was charging for diamonds when I said $30 per person per hour. Go
figures. Thanks! Kathryn in NC --- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Craig
Clark wrote:
>
> I have been gradually increasing my prices over the years and I
still
> probably don't charge enough. I teach private lessons in my studio
for
> either one, two or three people at a time. My fee is $35/hr for one,
> $50/hr for two and $60/hr for three. Keep in mind that this pricing
is
> reasonable for the general cost of things in our fair
city...........if,
> on the other hand, I were offering private lessons in an area with a
> much higher cost of living such as the San Franscisco Bay area or
New
> York City, my prices would need to be substantially higher..
> Hope this helps
> Craig Dunn Clark
> 619 East 11 1/2 St
> Houston, Texas 77008
> (713)861-2083
> mudman@...
>
> sacredclay wrote:
> > Curious to know how much does one charge per person per hour for
> > private ceramic lessons.My boss is letting me keep the profits,
just
> > pay for the clay, no extra charge for glazing and firing. Kathryn
in
> > NC
> >
> >
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sacredclay on thu 28 jun 07
Sweet Dick, now that is a marvelous idea! I didn't think about a two
week class. thanks to all who answered. Warmly, Kathryn in NC --- In
clayart@yahoogroups.com, Richard Walker wrote:
>
come back to work for a time as aprentices.
>
> Enjoy every moment of each day!
>
> Dick Walker
> Muddy Duck Pottery
>
>
>
>
>
sacredclay on thu 28 jun 07
Sweet Elizabeth, thank you so much for your response. It has helped
alot and as usual, I always enjoy your postings! Happy potting!
Wawrmly, Kathryn in NC ---
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