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fwd: re: hard zinc oxide

updated fri 20 feb 98

 

Anne W. Bracker on tue 17 feb 98

Dear Clayart members,
Ron suggested that someone may have had this situation and possibly had
suggestions. Please advise if you have successfully "reclaimed" hard zinc
oxide.
Thanks,
Anne
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Date: 02/15 10:40 PM
Received: 02/17 8:19 AM
From: Ron Roy, ronroy@astral.magic.ca
To: Anne W. Bracker, bracker@midusa.net

Hi Anne,

Well I have tried to find the relevent information in my library but still
don't know what temperature is recommended - I think what you did was
right
but - the one reference I found said you have to regrind it.

If you want me to ask the list just let me know - someone must have this
figured out.

Regards,

>Ron,
>Please offer any suggestions you might have to solve my problem with
>about 150# of hard Zochem zinc oxide. A few torn bags were stored in a
>truck box where humidity was present. I have tried re-calcining a small
>amount in my electric kiln (fired to a bisque of Cone 07 with lid proped
>open and a few peep hole plugs open). The zinc is still hard. This stuff
>is too expensive to not try something else to reclaim for resale by
>Bracker Ceramics. However I will not compromise any product that I sell
>to my customers.
>Any ideas?
>Thanks for comments you might have.
>Anne Bracker
>
>Bracker Ceramics
>1835 E 1450 Road
>Lawrence, KS 66044
>
>1 785 841-4750 OFFICE
>1 785 841-8142 FAX
>1 888 822-1982 ORDER LINE
>bracker@midusa.net E-MAIL
>
>"Clay Ain't Dirt"

Ron Roy
93 Pegasus trail
Scarborough Otario
Canada M1G 3N8
Phone: 416-439-2621
Fax: 416-438-7849
Web page: Home page http://digitalfire.com/education/people/ronroy.htm



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Bracker Ceramics
1835 E 1450 Road
Lawrence, KS 66044

1 785 841-4750 OFFICE
1 785 841-8142 FAX
1 888 822-1982 ORDER LINE
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"Clay Ain't Dirt"

David Hendley on wed 18 feb 98

Ball mill it (dry).
I've done it.
Mine was not in big chunks, but gravel size pieces.
Didn't take very long, in ball mill time,
just a few hours.

Best wishes,
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
See David Hendley's Pottery Page at
http://www.sosis.com/hendley/david


>>Please offer any suggestions you might have to solve my problem with
>>about 150# of hard Zochem zinc oxide. A few torn bags were stored in a
>>truck box where humidity was present. I have tried re-calcining a small
>>amount in my electric kiln (fired to a bisque of Cone 07 with lid proped
>>open and a few peep hole plugs open). The zinc is still hard. This stuff
>>is too expensive to not try something else to reclaim for resale by
>>Bracker Ceramics. However I will not compromise any product that I sell
>>to my customers.
>>Any ideas?
>>Thanks for comments you might have.
>>Anne Bracker
>>
>>Bracker Ceramics
>>1835 E 1450 Road
>>Lawrence, KS 66044
>>
>>1 785 841-4750 OFFICE
>>1 785 841-8142 FAX
>>1 888 822-1982 ORDER LINE
>>bracker@midusa.net E-MAIL


Don Prey on wed 18 feb 98

So, it seems that some force must be applied to this zinc oxide: thermal?
Chemical? Mechanical? Just yesterday I mixed two glazes that contain zinc
oxide. What was available in the studio was a couple of solid chunks. I used
an old screwdriver to make smaller chunks and a mortar and pastel to get a
nice fine powder. I know that this won't be the way to go for the quantity in
question, but some re-grind (mechanical) process seems like the only practical
way. (I'm just getting this mental picture of someone in a pickup truck
driving over zinc oxide. That's the way some folks de-hull black walnuts.)
Don Prey in Oregon

Marc Kiessling on thu 19 feb 98

Hi Anne:
Ball mill it if you have one. If not the best I have been able to come
up with is smash it up with a hammer as best as possible, dry seive through
a series of smaller mesh (wearing proper protection), calcine with your
next bisque, re-seive (protection again), store in air tight bags (this
stuff sucks up water vapour like a magnet).
It works but it is a lot, I repeat, a lot of work. Good luck!!!
Regards, Marc

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dear Clayart members,
>Ron suggested that someone may have had this situation and possibly had
>suggestions. Please advise if you have successfully "reclaimed" hard zinc
>oxide.
>Anne

forte on thu 19 feb 98

Ann
I helped Mile Hi Ceramics buy a truck load of unused Bell Hammer Mills
several years ago ( they were from a fellow who tried a business of making
insulation from newspapers a customer would save for quite a while - then
he would send out one of his trucks and they would grind the paper and add
the appropriate binder and spray it into your attic. Needless to say he
didn't last long ) I'm sure Zach would sell you one for $40 or $50. You
could add a motor and grind anything to your hearts content. They really
are sweet little machines and are still being made somewhere in Neb.

Hope it helps.


t 01:38 PM 2/17/98 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Dear Clayart members,
>Ron suggested that someone may have had this situation and possibly had
>suggestions. Please advise if you have successfully "reclaimed" hard zinc
>oxide.
>Thanks,
>Anne
>---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
>Date: 02/15 10:40 PM
>Received: 02/17 8:19 AM
>From: Ron Roy, ronroy@astral.magic.ca
>To: Anne W. Bracker, bracker@midusa.net
>
>Hi Anne,
>
>Well I have tried to find the relevent information in my library but still
>don't know what temperature is recommended - I think what you did was
>right
>but - the one reference I found said you have to regrind it.
>
>If you want me to ask the list just let me know - someone must have this
>figured out.
>
>Regards,
>
>>Ron,
>>Please offer any suggestions you might have to solve my problem with
>>about 150# of hard Zochem zinc oxide. A few torn bags were stored in a
>>truck box where humidity was present. I have tried re-calcining a small
>>amount in my electric kiln (fired to a bisque of Cone 07 with lid proped
>>open and a few peep hole plugs open). The zinc is still hard. This stuff
>>is too expensive to not try something else to reclaim for resale by
>>Bracker Ceramics. However I will not compromise any product that I sell
>>to my customers.
>>Any ideas?
>>Thanks for comments you might have.
>>Anne Bracker
>>
>>Bracker Ceramics
>>1835 E 1450 Road
>>Lawrence, KS 66044
>>
>>1 785 841-4750 OFFICE
>>1 785 841-8142 FAX
>>1 888 822-1982 ORDER LINE
>>bracker@midusa.net E-MAIL
>>
>>"Clay Ain't Dirt"
>
>Ron Roy
>93 Pegasus trail
>Scarborough Otario
>Canada M1G 3N8
>Phone: 416-439-2621
>Fax: 416-438-7849
>Web page: Home page http://digitalfire.com/education/people/ronroy.htm
>
>
>
>----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
>
>Bracker Ceramics
>1835 E 1450 Road
>Lawrence, KS 66044
>
>1 785 841-4750 OFFICE
>1 785 841-8142 FAX
>1 888 822-1982 ORDER LINE
>bracker@midusa.net E-MAIL
>
>"Clay Ain't Dirt"
>
Tom Forte