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shaners gold

updated sat 21 feb 98

 

Mark Luton on sun 8 feb 98

Hi all,

I trust the potting community are having a successful time at the moment.

I'm looking for a stoneware glaze caled Shaners Gold, I think.
It's a broken mustardy orange/yellow color. I lost the recipe. Bad move I
know!

Any recipe along that line would be greatly appreciated.
Mark Luton
TOOLAKEA BEACH POTTERY
"Forever parochial"
http://www.qttc.com.au/

Email mluton@ultra.net.au
Smail 57 Toolakea Beach Rd,
Bluewater
QLD 4818
AUSTRALIA

Dennis Davis on mon 9 feb 98

Mark Luton wrote:
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I'm looking for a stoneware glaze caled Shaners Gold, I think.
=================================================
Mark,

I have the following recipe for Shaner's Gold Glaze (C-10, Reduction) from
the February 1980 issue of Ceramics Monthly:

Bone Ash 2.8%
Talc 3.8
Whiting 20.1
Custer Feldspar 49.7
Kaolin 23.6
TOTAL 100.0%

ADD: Yellow Iron Oxide 3.8%
Rutile 3.8%

Dennis in Stafford, VA

Janet Price on mon 9 feb 98

Mark Luton said
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Hi all,
>
> I trust the potting community are having a successful time at the moment.
>
> I'm looking for a stoneware glaze caled Shaners Gold, I think.
> It's a broken mustardy orange/yellow color. I lost the recipe. Bad move I
> know!
>
Shaner Gold
52 custer spar
7 epk
16 calcined kaolin
21 whiting
4 talc

2.5 rio
2.5 rutile
3 bone ash

This is in my cone 10 book. I'm not sure if I ever tried it.

--
Janet Price, Chief Information Officer
Carroll College, Waukesha WI 53186
jprice@carroll1.cc.edu or jprice@ccadmin.cc.edu
414-524-7120

douglas gray on mon 9 feb 98

In message Mark Luton writes:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------

> I'm looking for a stoneware glaze caled Shaners Gold, I think.
> It's a broken mustardy orange/yellow color. I lost the recipe. Bad move I
> know!

Mark,

Here is a GOLD LINER glaze that was used at the University of Louisville. I am
not sure that it is a Shaner glaze, but we used a lot of his reds, yellows and
oranges, so I'm guessing that it might be.

GOLD LINER c9-10 reduction

Custer Feldspar 34.7
Dolomite 19.6
Whiting 3.1
EPK Kaolin 23.1
Flint 18.9
Zircopax 10
Bentonite 2
Red Iron OX 3

As I remember, this glaze gave a completely different surface on porcelain than
stoneware. Both were very nice though.

doug

============================================================================ =)
Douglas E. Gray, Assistant Professor of Art
P.O. Box 100547
Department of Fine Arts and Mass Communication
Francis Marion Univeristy
Florence, South Carolina 29501-0547

dgray@fmarion.edu
803/661-1535

the cat lady on tue 10 feb 98

>I'm looking for a stoneware glaze caled Shaners Gold, I think.
>It's a broken mustardy orange/yellow color. I lost the recipe. Bad move I
>know!
>
>Any recipe along that line would be greatly appreciated.
>
Hi:

Got this from Vaughn Stewart at a summer workshop. He says
he obtained it at a workshop back in the 60's.

2108 Custer Spar OR G-200
160 Talc
1000 EPK
852 Whiting
120 Bone Ash
150 Red Iron Oxide (RIO)
130 Rutile

Comments on sheet:
"Needs good reduction, but not too hot. Medium thick."

I have used this several times - nice easy-on-the-eyes yellow.

sam - alias the cat lady
Melbourne, Ontario
SW Ontario CANADA
http://www.geocities.com/paris/3110

Bryan Stecker on tue 17 feb 98

Here is the recipe for Shanner's Gold!

SHANER'S GOLD

Bone Ash 2.8
Talc 3.8
Whiting 20.1
Custer Feldspar 49.7
Kaolin 23.9

Yellow Iron Ox 3.8
Rutile 3.8

Anne Stecker
Salem, OR (where it has rained for 36 of the last 37 days!)
rekcets@open.org

douglas gray wrote:

> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> In message Mark Luton writes:
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> > I'm looking for a stoneware glaze caled Shaners Gold, I think.
> > It's a broken mustardy orange/yellow color. I lost the recipe. Bad move I
> > know!
>
> Mark,
>
> Here is a GOLD LINER glaze that was used at the University of Louisville. I a
> not sure that it is a Shaner glaze, but we used a lot of his reds, yellows and
> oranges, so I'm guessing that it might be.
>
> GOLD LINER c9-10 reduction
>
> Custer Feldspar 34.7
> Dolomite 19.6
> Whiting 3.1
> EPK Kaolin 23.1
> Flint 18.9
> Zircopax 10
> Bentonite 2
> Red Iron OX 3
>
> As I remember, this glaze gave a completely different surface on porcelain th
> stoneware. Both were very nice though.
>
> doug
>
> ============================================================================ =
> Douglas E. Gray, Assistant Professor of Art
> P.O. Box 100547
> Department of Fine Arts and Mass Communication
> Francis Marion Univeristy
> Florence, South Carolina 29501-0547
>
> dgray@fmarion.edu
> 803/661-1535

Ron Roy on fri 20 feb 98

I have checked the Shaner Gold and find it short of silica - as are most
matte glazes. If you are intending it for use with food you may want to
check the durability. It is going to craze on just about any body. Keep in
mind - crazing glazes weaken pots - if you look at a piece of clay - in
cross section - that has a crazed glaze on it - with enough magnification -
you will see the start of a very small crack in the clay under each craze
line. This is one of the reasons using a crazing glaze in combination with
a low expansion glaze makes for fragile ware.

The Gold Liner - I have to guess about the surface - without the zircopax
it would be a semi gloss but with the ratio so low - this might be a matte
glaze - expecially if it is slow cooled.
It is a well balanced - durable glaze and will resist acid and alkali
attack well if fired to cone 9 or 10.
The expansion is low enough that it would not craze on my porcelain or just
about any body you put it on - BUT - if you have cristobalite in your body
- with glaze on the inside and a crazing glaze on the outside be prepared
for dunting problems. If it is used on the inside only on a stoneware body
which has elevated cristobalite you can expect dunting as well.

You can use this glaze to tell if you have cristobalite - just glaze some
6"h x 4" wide = thin walled (1/4 ") cylinders on the inside only. If they
arn't cracked when they come out of the kiln - freeze em over night - if
they aren't cracked then free em again and pour some boiling water in them
< warning - do it in a way that you won't scald yourself if it cracks.


>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Here is the recipe for Shanner's Gold!
>
>SHANER'S GOLD
>
>Bone Ash 2.8
>Talc 3.8
>Whiting 20.1
>Custer Feldspar 49.7
>Kaolin 23.9
>
>Yellow Iron Ox 3.8
>Rutile 3.8

>>
>> Here is a GOLD LINER glaze that was used at the University of
>>Louisville. I a
>> not sure that it is a Shaner glaze, but we used a lot of his reds,
>>yellows and
>> oranges, so I'm guessing that it might be.
>>
>> GOLD LINER c9-10 reduction
>>
>> Custer Feldspar 34.7
>> Dolomite 19.6
>> Whiting 3.1
>> EPK Kaolin 23.1
>> Flint 18.9
>> Zircopax 10
>> Bentonite 2
>> Red Iron OX 3

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