Sumi von Dassow on tue 10 apr 12
I use grinding disks which come in 50 or 80 grit, I think. They are
self-adhesive and can be affixed to a bat and peeled off and replaced
when they wear down. They last a couple of months, maybe more, and cost
$7. Here's the link to them at Axner:
http://www.axner.com/grinding-disk-50-grit.aspx
Sumi
> A broken silicon carbide shelf attached to a wood bat should do the same =
thing.
>
> Regards,
> June Perry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mayssan Farra
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:49:41 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Glaze eraser?
>
> I now belong to a community studio as some of you might know
> Dear All:
>
> I now belong to a community studio as some of you might know, one of us c=
ame up with an ad for a glaze eraser bat, $175, http://www.glazeeraser.com=
/ Has anyone used it? is it worth the money? Does it work as advertised? do=
es it last in a community studio setting?
>
>
> Right now we have grinders but this sounds safer especially since we have=
a lot of newbies or tool challenged people:)
>
> Any information is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Mayssan
>
>
> Mayssan Shora Farra
>
> http://clayette.blogspot.com
>
>
Mayssan Farra on tue 10 apr 12
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ht now=3D
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June on tue 10 apr 12
A broken silicon carbide shelf attached to a wood bat should do the same th=
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ing.
Regards,
June Perry
----- Original Message -----
From: Mayssan Farra
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:49:41 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Glaze eraser?
I now belong to a community studio as some of you might know
Dear All:
I now belong to a community studio as some of you might know, one of us cam=
=3D
e up with an ad for a glaze eraser bat, $175,=3DC2=3DA0 http://www.glazeera=
ser.=3D
com/ Has anyone used it? is it worth the money? Does it work as advertised?=
=3D
does it last in a community studio setting?=3D20
Right now we have grinders but this sounds safer especially since we have a=
=3D
lot of newbies or tool challenged people:)
Any information is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mayssan
Mayssan Shora Farra
http://clayette.blogspot.com
William & Susan Schran User on tue 10 apr 12
On 4/10/12 8:49 AM, "Mayssan Farra" wrote:
>I now belong to a community studio as some of you might know
>Dear All:
>I now belong to a community studio as some of you might know, one of us
>came up with an ad for a glaze eraser bat, $175,
>http://www.glazeeraser.com/ Has anyone used it? is it worth the money?
>Does it work as advertised? does it last in a community studio setting?
>Right now we have grinders but this sounds safer especially since we have
>a lot of newbies or tool challenged people:)
>Any information is greatly appreciated.
>
>I bought the Glaze Eraser for my school studio some time back thinking
>the same idea - a safer grinder. It does do what it advertises, though I
>often go back to using the bench grinder because it is faster.
Our bench grinder is used outside only (have it mounted to a stop block so
I can move it around). With the Glaze Eraser I do have concerns about
using it inside unless one has a stream of water on it to keep down the
dust. The other issue for some folks might be the grinding noise.
Bill
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
>
gary navarre on tue 10 apr 12
=3DA0Dust and noise would need to be considered. I've been in an Art center=
w=3D
here they musta loved the sound of their grinder in the morning because the=
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same damn gals every damn time had the same damn glazes running all over t=
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he damn place. I've tried using one without a variable speed and it can mel=
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t the glaze instead of removing. Now about all I use is a small chunk of si=
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licon carbide kiln shelf and wet emery paper. All of my pieces where the as=
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h mixes with the glaze should be set on wads but I'm thinking I'd like to h=
=3D
ave the discipline of setting everything on a shrinkage disk with wads to m=
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inimize the problem at the source.=3D0A=3D0A=3DA0=3D0AGary Navarre=3D0ANava=
rre Potter=3D
y=3D0ANavarre Enterprises=3D0ANorway, Michigan, USA=3D0Ahttp://www.NavarreP=
ottery=3D
.etsy.com=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 <...... New Pots=3D0Ahttp://www.youtube.=
com/GindaUP=3D
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__________=3D
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rt@L=3D
SV.CERAMICS.ORG =3D0ASent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:22 AM=3D0ASubject: Re:=
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>http://www.glazeeraser.com/ Has anyone used it? is it worth the money?=3D0=
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David Woof on wed 11 apr 12
Hi all=3D2C
=3D20
there are times when all goes wrong and a piece must have it's bottom groun=
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d clean and smoothed=3D2C or trashed as not worth the time. Remember there =
is=3D
that option! All is not precious!
=3D20
However if this is a constant part of one's regular routine: something is w=
=3D
rong!!!=3D20
=3D20
Little wonder that many starry eyed would be potters=3D3B go broke=3D2C fru=
stra=3D
ted or bored and give up on their dream. And after being exposed to deadly =
=3D
silica flower dust at a micron level one's lungs can't expell.
=3D20
Within this thread=3D2C with all this talk of grinding=3D2C noise=3D2C and =
which =3D
gringing pads or method to use=3D2C I hear attempts to treat a symptom rath=
er=3D
than address the issue of learning proper trimming=3D2C finishing=3D2C and=
gla=3D
zing techniques.
=3D20
Start with a clay that doesn't contain "gravel" and tool burnish trimmed fe=
=3D
et while rotating on the wheel=3D2C (after a study of proper trimming aesth=
et=3D
ics and good pottery form) =3D20
=3D20
Burnishing the bottoms and foot rings compresses the clay and compacts the =
=3D
sand or grog into or beneath the clay surface so to eliminate a gritty rest=
=3D
ing surface. =3D20
=3D20
Then learn prpoer glazing and firing techniques along with some basics in g=
=3D
laze physics=3D2C as related to glaze composition=3D2C chemistry=3D2C and f=
iring.=3D
=3D20
Exercise proper cleaning and care of shelves=3D3B using drip pads under a n=
ew=3D
glaze test until the glaze can be trusted.=3D20
=3D20
Care in all of this brings one to a greater level of pride and excitment in=
=3D
the involvment.
=3D20
If care is applied during the making and glazing process=3D2C at least 95% =
of=3D
the need for grinding is eliminated.
=3D20
I've more interesting things to do with my time than grind. Dare to try a d=
=3D
ifferent way!!!
=3D20
If foot and rim can't pass the lips and tongue smoothness test it doesn't g=
=3D
o to market.=3D20
=3D20
When needed I touch up foot or bottom surfaces with a "fine" 6 inch wire wh=
=3D
eel on a bench grinder. Couple passes and it's burnished to a deep palpable=
=3D
smoothness.
=3D20
Wear Eye and face protection. No exceptions!!! Those little wires become mi=
=3D
ni arrows when one loosens and flys. Our cornea is 1mm thick=3D2C the wire =
wi=3D
ll create a 3mm hole. No healing without 3 micro stitches in your eye ball=
=3D
.=3D20
=3D20
As far as tool challenged folks: we have enough crap work out there so eith=
=3D
er learn and develop skills=3D2C find a partner to do that phase of the wor=
k=3D
=3D2C or strap sponges on your feet and take up painting large canvases or =
dr=3D
iveways. (commissioned work=3D3B not your neighbor's at 3:00 AM) Humm=3D2C =
mayb=3D
e the driveway idea would sell! =3D20
=3D20
It is all about paying attention at every step in the process=3D2C and thou=
gh=3D
tful application of skills and craftmanship. Art will happen along at the r=
=3D
ight time when these companions are leading.
=3D20
Like Tracy the glass blower at the Raku Gallery in Jerome says as he ends e=
=3D
ach demonstration=3D3B "skills pay the bills"
=3D20
David Woof
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_____________________
=3D20
----- Original Message ----->=3D20
From: Mayssan Farra>=3D20
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG>=3D20
Sent: Tue=3D2C 10 Apr 2012 12:49:41 -0000 (UTC)>=3D20
Subject: Glaze eraser?>>=3D20
=3D20
Dear All:>> I now belong to a community studio as some of you might know=3D=
2C=3D
one of us came up with an ad for a glaze eraser bat=3D2C $175=3D2C http://=
www.=3D
glazeeraser.com/ Has anyone used it? is it worth the money? Does it work as=
=3D
advertised? does it last in a community studio setting?>>> Right now we ha=
=3D
ve grinders but this sounds safer especially since we have a lot of newbies=
=3D
or tool challenged people:)>> Any information is greatly appreciated.>> Th=
=3D
anks> Mayssan>>> Mayssan Shora Farra>> http://clayette.blogspot.com> =
=3D
=3D
Don Goodrich on wed 11 apr 12
Hi May,
As Sumi pointed out, the adhesive abrasive discs work pretty well for =
=3D
the=3D20
same purpose as glaze erasers, and cost a lot less. I bought two from=3D20
creative Industries at NCECA in San Diego (2003) and am still on the firs=
=3D
t one.=3D20
All you need to invest is the cost of the disc and a bat to stick it on. =
=3D
Be sure=3D20
to keep it damp while using (except for greenware), sponge it off or hose=
=3D
it in=3D20
the sink to keep the grit clean.
David makes several good points too. The best lesson regarding remedia=
=3D
l=3D20
tools is learning how not to need them!
Cheers,
Don Goodrich
http://dongoodrichpottery.com/
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