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thoughts :smallest workable size for ^ 10 reduction kiln

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Amy Romaniec on mon 12 mar 12


^ 10 firers=3D20
What is the smallest cubic foot workable size for a reduction kiln using p=
=3D
ropane ?. What size are folks using ?
The kiln to be built in question has to have a tall flue 2-3 stories becau=
=3D
se of neighboring buildings.
Also is the damper more functional in the flue or at the back of the kiln=
=3D
as the flue exits the kiln?I have seen both but in larger kilns.
this would be a two burner down draft kiln.
what might be better bag walls or recessed flame channel?
Thank you for your thoughts directing me toward answers.=3D2C
Amy =3D20

=3D

Taylor Hendrix on mon 12 mar 12


Amy,

I have seen an old 7 cu ft electric kiln converted to a downdraft
propane kiln. It has an internal stack which terminates at the lid, so
no external stack whatsoever. Google Simon Leach on Youtube to see his
latest conversion. He used to fire a nice little square kiln that I am
guessing was just a bit more than 7 cu ft as well. Both of these kilns
are fired with propane and weed burners. Mine will use venturi burners
if I can locate another small one soon.

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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Amy Romaniec
wrote:
> ^ 10 firers
> What is the smallest cubic foot workable size =3DC2=3DA0for a reduction k=
iln =3D
using propane ?. What size are folks using ?
> The =3DC2=3DA0kiln to be built in question has to have a tall flue 2-3 st=
orie=3D
s because of neighboring buildings.
> Also is the damper more functional =3DC2=3DA0in the flue or =3DC2=3DA0at =
the back=3D
of the kiln =3DC2=3DA0as the =3DC2=3DA0flue exits the kiln?I have seen bot=
h but in=3D
larger kilns.
> this would be a two burner =3DC2=3DA0down draft kiln.
> what might be better =3DC2=3DA0bag walls or =3DC2=3DA0recessed flame chan=
nel?
> Thank you for your thoughts directing me toward answers.,
> Amy
>
>

Amy Romaniec on mon 12 mar 12


Thanks for all the info WOW
Often I have just a few pieces to "get out " to finish an order and to have=
=3D
a smaller kiln will be soooo helpful
need to practice on it a bit=3D20
I do have an old electric actually two and could maybe make the wall s doub=
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le thick using all the bricks=3D20
hummm so many possibilities!
Again thank you!! =3D20

Date: Mon=3D2C 12 Mar 2012 11:32:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Thoughts :smallest workable size for ^ 10 reduction kiln
From: 23drb50@gmail.com
To: highhorsefarm@hotmail.com
CC: Clayart@lsv.ceramics.org

Amy
A friend of mine did his MFA project based on a series of kilns that were 1=
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cu ft.
The practicle "Least common denominater" for kilns is usually the size of y=
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our kiln shelf.
A one shelf stack with breathing room around it usually comes out to 7-8 cu=
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ft.
=3D20
DRB
Seola Creek =3D

douglas fur on mon 12 mar 12


Amy
A friend of mine did his MFA project based on a series of kilns that were 1
cu ft.
The practicle "Least common denominater" for kilns is usually the size of
your kiln shelf.
A one shelf stack with breathing room around it usually comes out to 7-8 cu
ft.

DRB
Seola Creek

Steve Mills on mon 12 mar 12


Dear Amy,

I have a 2 burner set, Propane 9 cube Fibre Downdraft front loader. I've ha=
d=3D
smaller and found them a pain. This one is just right for my home use.=3D2=
0
The flue effectively ends at the top of the kiln, and that's where the plat=
e=3D
dampers are.=3D20
I have a collector 6 inches above the flue exit which vents to outside.=3D2=
0
When I reduce I stick a gas torch into the base of the collector to ignite =
t=3D
he fumes. After 10 minutes it burns on its own, so no visible fumes or smel=
l=3D
.=3D20
I'm in a close built residential area with a clean air requirement, so I've=
g=3D
ot to be "good"!

Hope this helps

Steve M


Steve Mills
Bath
UK
www.mudslinger.me.uk
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On 12 Mar 2012, at 15:41, Amy Romaniec wrote:

> ^ 10 firers=3D20
> What is the smallest cubic foot workable size for a reduction kiln using=
p=3D
ropane ?. What size are folks using ?
> The kiln to be built in question has to have a tall flue 2-3 stories bec=
a=3D
use of neighboring buildings.
> Also is the damper more functional in the flue or at the back of the ki=
l=3D
n as the flue exits the kiln?I have seen both but in larger kilns.
> this would be a two burner down draft kiln.
> what might be better bag walls or recessed flame channel?
> Thank you for your thoughts directing me toward answers.,
> Amy =3D20
>=3D20

jonathan byler on mon 12 mar 12


I have fired our roughly 2 or 3 cubic foot raku kiln to cone 10. not
particularly efficient with the gas or anything but it worked. the
smaller you get, the less efficient your kiln will be in terms of BTUs
used to heat a given space. that has a lot to do with simple physics:
given a roughly cube shaped kiln, the larger your kiln, the less
surface area per unit of volume there is, so less surface area per
unit of volume for heat to escape.


On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Amy Romaniec wrote:

> ^ 10 firers
> What is the smallest cubic foot workable size for a reduction kiln
> using propane ?. What size are folks using ?
> The kiln to be built in question has to have a tall flue 2-3
> stories because of neighboring buildings.
> Also is the damper more functional in the flue or at the back of
> the kiln as the flue exits the kiln?I have seen both but in larger
> kilns.
> this would be a two burner down draft kiln.
> what might be better bag walls or recessed flame channel?
> Thank you for your thoughts directing me toward answers.,
> Amy
>

Porcelain Forest on wed 14 mar 12


> I have a kiln that is 13 x 19.5 x 18 which is about 1 cubic foot. It's
> pretty sweet and I fire it at ^10 regularly. I can send you a plan if you
> like.
>
> Best,
>
> Nathaniel
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM, jonathan byler wrote=
:
>
>> I have fired our roughly 2 or 3 cubic foot raku kiln to cone 10. not
>> particularly efficient with the gas or anything but it worked. the
>> smaller you get, the less efficient your kiln will be in terms of BTUs
>> used to heat a given space. that has a lot to do with simple physics:
>> given a roughly cube shaped kiln, the larger your kiln, the less
>> surface area per unit of volume there is, so less surface area per
>> unit of volume for heat to escape.
>>
>>
>>