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wax for pit-fired/sagger-fired wares

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Patty Kaliher on fri 27 jan 12


I went to a flooring store and bought the wax they use on stone floors.
Bottle of liquid easily applied.

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From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Vince Pitelka
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 5:23 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Wax for Pit-Fired/Sagger-Fired Wares

I have a student who is doing experiments in sagger firing using the same
materials you would use in pit firing. He is coating his wares with terra
sig and polishing them before the firing, and wants to wax them after firin=
g
in order to maximize the shine. If any of you have recommendations as to
what kind of wax or polish works best, I'd greatly appreciate it if you
would share that information. Thanks in advance -

- Vince



Vince Pitelka

Appalachian Center for Craft

Tennessee Tech University

vpitelka@dtccom.net

http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/

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Vince Pitelka on fri 27 jan 12


I have a student who is doing experiments in sagger firing using the same
materials you would use in pit firing. He is coating his wares with terra
sig and polishing them before the firing, and wants to wax them after firin=
g
in order to maximize the shine. If any of you have recommendations as to
what kind of wax or polish works best, I'd greatly appreciate it if you
would share that information. Thanks in advance -

- Vince



Vince Pitelka

Appalachian Center for Craft

Tennessee Tech University

vpitelka@dtccom.net

http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/

Taylor Hendrix on sat 28 jan 12


I use a good quality paste wax. Russels from Brussels is going to get
onto me about that, but I can't seem to kick the waxing habit.

Let us know how the experiments went. I love to see experimental
saggar work. My next experimenting will be nekkid.

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On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Vince Pitelka wrote:
> I have a student who is doing experiments in sagger firing using the same
> materials you would use in pit firing. =3DC2=3DA0He is coating his wares =
with=3D
terra
> sig and polishing them before the firing, and wants to wax them after fir=
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ing
> in order to maximize the shine. =3DC2=3DA0If any of you have recommendati=
ons =3D
as to
> what kind of wax or polish works best, I'd greatly appreciate it if you
> would share that information. =3DC2=3DA0Thanks in advance -
>
> - Vince
>
>
>
> Vince Pitelka
>
> Appalachian Center for Craft
>
> Tennessee Tech University
>
> vpitelka@dtccom.net
>
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/

gmarshall@coloradocollege.edu on sat 28 jan 12


I like to use tile sealer which comes in gloss or matte finish.

"Steph Steph on sat 28 jan 12


there are a variety of types that work well. I would suggest your student=
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try a couple to see which they prefer.

liquid floor wax: this actually can work quite well and leave a waxy but=
=3D

not plastic-y look. it is also the least expensive. put it on with a lint=
=3D

free cloth or clean brush, then wipe it off as soon as it soaks in.=3D20

tile, saltillo and stone sealers: i don't like the types of sealers that=
=3D

have a milky consistency... they loook to plasticky to me and will be eve=
=3D
n
ickier if there are areas where it is allowed to pool. apply just like fl=
=3D
oor
wax.=3D20
I like stone sealers a lot, they will soak in to more vitreous clay bodi=
=3D
es.
they will not leave a shine at all but will heighten the color and bring=
=3D

out the complexity . miracle brand, etc are pretty good, and there are a
variety of sealers from matter through glossy. matte or satin would be my=
=3D

choice.


paste wax. i really love to use a french wax called 'Pate du Gay". yes,
seriously , that's the name. it is found in antique stores and is a wax =
=3D
for
hardwood that is mostly made of beeswax. it smells lovely. you can get =
=3D
it
in tints or clear. these days it is about $18 a can, but a can goes along=
=3D

way. you thin it with Naptha, or the newer, greener substitute for naptha=
=3D
.an
American equivalent is Briswax, or even hard car wax like caranuba wax.

with paste wax you apply a very small amount over the surface, let it dr=
=3D
y
for about 20 minutes then hit it with a buffing brush or mechanical buffe=
=3D
r.
the manual brush looks like a big shoeshine brush.
. wax might not work as well if your saggar work has crusties on it.
if it has crusties, which are sometimes lovely, go with a liquid wax that=
=3D

soaks in and does not need buffing.

i love our american style saggar firing, where we put junk IN the saggar=
=3D

instead of using the sagar to keep junk AWAY from the ware!
=3D20
Don't tell Hank Murrow this, but after he built the very fine large 'Han=
=3D
kie
kiln' at the U of O, I regularly filled the entire thing with big brick
saggars and loaded those saggars up with every sort of amazing 'garbage' =
=3D
and
'color flux bomb' I could find. Fired a lot of large sculpture that way.
that was heaven.

Stephani Stephenson

mudduck on sat 28 jan 12


Vince

I used bowling alley wax and tree wax at one time to put a shine on my hors=
e
hair pots. I have now switched to clear non yellowing acrylic spray paint.
The problem I ran in to with the paste waxes were they took a lot of time t=
o
apply and were very difficult to wipe off.

The main reason for the switch was that when ladies would pick up one of my
horse hair pots at a show and give it a spin in their hand to admire it,
their rings would scratch the pot. The acrylic is much harder and doesn't
scratch easy and is much easier to apply.

Gene
mudduck@mudduckpottery.net
www.mudduckpottery.net

Sumi von Dassow on sat 28 jan 12


Vince

I like to use Tile Labs Gloss Sealer and Finish. They also make a matte,
if he doesn't want extra gloss. It is not a wax, it is an acrylic, I
believe. I use it because it is formulated to seal porous tile and
stone, and also because it doesn't leave residue in texture like a paste
wax does. Also, it seems to hold up over time, where real wax products
may dull and need to be reapplied or re-polished.

Sumi
> I have a student who is doing experiments in sagger firing using the same
> materials you would use in pit firing. He is coating his wares with terr=
a
> sig and polishing them before the firing, and wants to wax them after fir=
ing
> in order to maximize the shine. If any of you have recommendations as to
> what kind of wax or polish works best, I'd greatly appreciate it if you
> would share that information. Thanks in advance -
>
> - Vince
>
>
>
> Vince Pitelka
>
> Appalachian Center for Craft
>
> Tennessee Tech University
>
> vpitelka@dtccom.net
>
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
>
>

Frances Howard on sun 29 jan 12


Hi Vince,

I visited a potter in North Bay Ontario a while back in their woodsy
cottage, entirely home built, even all the furniture, and of course all the
floor tiles, very thick earthenware. They had fired them to temp and then
varathaned them and they looked fabulous. They said it was much better and
harder than having a glaze and it if began to wear they just added more
varathane. Of course it would probably be horrible on anything but tile.
Saggared wares are unlikely to be tile I think.
Frances Howard

-----Original Message-----
From: Sumi von Dassow
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 7:29 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Wax for Pit-Fired/Sagger-Fired Wares

Vince

I like to use Tile Labs Gloss Sealer and Finish. They also make a matte,
if he doesn't want extra gloss. It is not a wax, it is an acrylic, I
believe. I use it because it is formulated to seal porous tile and
stone, and also because it doesn't leave residue in texture like a paste
wax does. Also, it seems to hold up over time, where real wax products
may dull and need to be reapplied or re-polished.

Sumi
> I have a student who is doing experiments in sagger firing using the same
> materials you would use in pit firing. He is coating his wares with terr=
a
> sig and polishing them before the firing, and wants to wax them after
> firing
> in order to maximize the shine. If any of you have recommendations as to
> what kind of wax or polish works best, I'd greatly appreciate it if you
> would share that information. Thanks in advance -
>
> - Vince
>
>
>
> Vince Pitelka
>
> Appalachian Center for Craft
>
> Tennessee Tech University
>
> vpitelka@dtccom.net
>
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/
>
>


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