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updated thu 19 jan 12


jeanette harris on tue 17 jan 12

Hi, Rita,

My guess is this is a high quality Kutani piece. See the illustration on
this webpage about marks. . You
want to get to This is a
good reference page for Japanese ceramics. Scroll down the marks page until
you come to 620 Kutani c. 1900. Click on the covered dish and saucer. That
will take you to an illustration much like your plate, but it is obviously
not as fine an example as yours.

Note the edging motif on the plate--very similar to yours. These pieces
were made in the Meiji and Taisho periods which equates to our Victorian
and Edwardian ages. Since there is evidence of a paper tag still intact (be
sure to keep that!) I would guess late Meiji/ early Taisho. 1868-1926,
maybe early Showa beginning 1926.

The subject matter is the Seven Sages, originally a Chinese motif. Early
Japanese ceramics was heavily influenced by Chinese work as were
literature, dance, architecture and other arts. This piece was probably not
meant for export due to the subject matter and elaborate traditional
background design reminiscent of kimono fabric patterns and the subtle
windmill dividing motif.

The piece has been decorated with high-relief colored enamels and gold.

It makes a difference if the thickness of the plate is thick or thin--the
thinner the better for Western antique markets. Also, how is the foot
finished? I'm assuming the inside of the rim is glazed and the marks are
there. What is the color of the clay on the foot rim?

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Shaw Pottery wrote=

> Better photos of back, and closeup of front
> Thank you again!
> Rita
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jeanette harris on wed 18 jan 12

You well may be right, Lee. There was a large production of Satsuma
ceramics. Much of what we see in the West one the antique market is

Check out the page and research some more pieces on the web and see if that
is a close match with your piece.

The timeframe for production is the same.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Lee wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:01 PM, jeanette harris
> wrote:
> > Hi, Rita,
> >
> > My guess is this is a high quality Kutani piece. See the illustration o=
> > this webpage about marks.
> I believe Satsuma
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> Lee Love in Minneapolis
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