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blood sports and celadon

updated sat 7 jan 12

 

Lili Krakowski on wed 4 jan 12


Oh, Tom! Thank you!

I hoped someone would offer to test this idea...that the ancient Chinese =
=3D
used blood to help glaze adhere to the pot, and the iron in it created =3D
celadons. =3D20

And there is Tom, braving wild boars (or is that bores?) to try this.

I am reading Hetherington right now to see is there is where I found the =
=3D
original statement..Which appealed to me because, since I first learned =3D
about it, I wondered how the marginal/minimal amount of iron and/or =3D
copper were introduced before delicate scales were around...And I =3D
doubted then, as now, that early potteries meted/could mete out glaze =3D
ingredients with laboratory precision.=3D20

Seemed logical that. indeed, an incidental glaze =3D
additive...blood...would supply the iron. Just as I suspect much of the =
=3D
copper that led to copper reduction colors was provided =3D
incidentally/accidentally by "contamination" from brass or bronze tools =3D
or storage jars.

Happy hunting, Tom, and many thanks. =3D20


Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage

Jackie.Miller.Clay on wed 4 jan 12


You could see if the celadons produced at high altitude were richer in iron=
t=3D
han those down in the valleys, I.e. more iron rich blood. Wink wink
Jackie

OnoUdidn@AOL.COM on wed 4 jan 12


Sadly I am at sea level but dang we could be onto something here.... Will
the Olympic committee allow it???


In a message dated 1/4/2012 2:04:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jackie.miller.clay@GMAIL.COM writes:

You could see if the celadons produced at high altitude were richer in
iron than those down in the valleys, I.e. more iron rich blood. Wink wink
Jackie

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on wed 4 jan 12


Too...various Marine Animals - Crabs, Mulloscs, whoever else - have Copper
based Blood...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie.Miller.Clay"

You could see if the celadons produced at high altitude were richer in iron
than those down in the valleys, I.e. more iron rich blood. Wink wink
Jackie

Edouard Bastarache on wed 4 jan 12


Not a bad hypothesis !!!

Gis,

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie.Miller.Clay"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 12:47 PM
Subject: Blood sports and celadon


You could see if the celadons produced at high altitude were richer in iron
than those down in the valleys, I.e. more iron rich blood. Wink wink
Jackie

OnoUdidn@AOL.COM on wed 4 jan 12


Horse shoe crabs have blue blood! I just happen to know where a plethora
of them are.........

Ya'll are turning me into a vampire (notice how I avoid responsibility with
ease???)




In a message dated 1/4/2012 3:10:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

Too...various Marine Animals - Crabs, Mulloscs, whoever else - have Copper
based Blood...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie.Miller.Clay"

You could see if the celadons produced at high altitude were richer in iro=
n
than those down in the valleys, I.e. more iron rich blood. Wink wink
Jackie

Jackie.Miller.Clay on wed 4 jan 12


No, not if we load up our blood donator/victim with erythropoietin.
Jackie



On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:10 PM, OnoUdidn@aol.com wrote:

> Sadly I am at sea level but dang we could be onto something here.... Will=
t=3D
he Olympic committee allow it???
> =3D20
> In a message dated 1/4/2012 2:04:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jackie.mi=
l=3D
ler.clay@GMAIL.COM writes:
> You could see if the celadons produced at high altitude were richer in ir=
o=3D
n than those down in the valleys, I.e. more iron rich blood. Wink wink
> Jackie

John Post on wed 4 jan 12


Just thinking about how much iron is in your blood is the place I
would start. A quick search google search turned up this info...
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One pint of blood contains 250 milligrams of iron.
An average sized human body contains around 10 pints of blood.

250 x 10 =3D 2500 milligrams of iron. So in a gallon and a half of
blood you have 2.5 grams of iron.

To get a feel for how much iron is in your bloodstream simply pick up
one US Cent and hold it in the palm of your hand. According to the
usmint website the Cent weighs exactly 2.5 grams.

Note that this does NOT account for iron outside the bloodstream.

from...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_iron_is_there_in_a_human_body
------------------------------------------------




John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan

http://www.johnpost.us

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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 5 jan 12


I gather a lot of 'Royalty' also did or does ( have 'Blue Blood' )...

Being as some of them here and there may be on the skids, they'd likely =3D
sell a few pints for some Crack or MD2020 money...



Blood, Milk, and Egg Yolks/Whites are of course the ancientmost =3D
ingredients/basis of early Paints and adhesives/Glues...( and are still =3D
used in these capacities ).

It would seem entirely to be expected that ancient Potters would have =3D
experimented with or used these in their Glazes in various ways.



----- Original Message -----=3D20

From: OnoUdidn@aol.com=3D20


Horse shoe crabs have blue blood! I just happen to know where a =3D
plethora of them are.........

Ya'll are turning me into a vampire (notice how I avoid responsibility =
=3D
with ease???)



In a message dated 1/4/2012 3:10:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, =3D
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
Too...various Marine Animals - Crabs, Mulloscs, whoever else - have =3D
Copper
based Blood...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie.Miller.Clay"

You could see if the celadons produced at high altitude were richer =3D
in iron
than those down in the valleys, I.e. more iron rich blood. Wink wink
Jackie