gary navarre on mon 22 aug 11
Not much wood finishing experience here yet but I found s=3D
Joyce,=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3DA0Not much wood finishing experience here yet but I=
found s=3D
omething interesting since switching to Yahoo's new format. When I right cl=
=3D
ick on a misspelled word something is giving a list of possible corrections=
=3D
. This also happens with Facebook and even YouTube. Is that the Verizon cha=
=3D
nge you mention? Maybe it's always been there & I just found it but is work=
=3D
s OK.=3D0A=3D0A=3DA0=3D0AGary Navarre=3D0ANavarre Pottery=3D0ANavarre Enter=
prises=3D0ANor=3D
way, Michigan, USA=3D0Ahttp://www.NavarrePottery.etsy.com=3D0Ahttp://www.yo=
utub=3D
e.com/GindaUP=3D0Ahttp://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A__________=
________=3D
______________=3D0AFrom: MEUNIER LEE =3D0ATo: Clayar=
t@LS=3D
V.CERAMICS.ORG=3D0ASent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:32 PM=3D0ASubject: [Cla=
yart=3D
] Fw: Wood Finishing=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AI'm working on a wood-refinishing projec=
t as a=3D
display for=3D0Athis winter's home...=3D0A=3D0AAny suggestions will be app=
reciat=3D
ed and tested by me.=3D0AThank you.=3D0A=3D0AJoyce=3D0Aenough.=3DA0 ( Am I =
meaning "p=3D
arody" or pantomime, which=3D0AI'm trying to avoid because I'm sure it's mi=
ss=3D
pelled? AND=3D0AI can't find Spellcheck on this newly revised Verzon/=3D0AW=
indo=3D
ws dealybob.)=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AMy question??? Do any of you woodworkers out th=
ere=3D0A=3D
know what oil I might have used mixed with the varnish??
James Freeman on mon 22 aug 11
Joyce...
The typical recipe is 50% varnish (any kind, so long as it's not water base=
d
or water-borne, though I prefer alkyd or marine varnish over the
polyurethanes, which look a bit harsh to my eye), and 50% boiled linseed
oil. Note: Boiled linseed oil is not boiled at all, but is raw linseed oi=
l
with a metallic drier added. Another mix I have used is 1/3 varnish, 1/3
raw linseed oil, and 1/3 turpentine (real turpentine, not mineral spirits),
with a bit of Japan drier. This second mix builds more slowly. It will
also smell of turpentine for some time, so make sure you like the smell
(which I do)!
You can obtain a similar finish with one of the many wiping varnishes on th=
e
market. These are often sold as tung oil, though most of them don't have a
drop of tung oil in them (which does not matter). For the most part, they
are just thinned down varnish, sometimes with a bit of tung oil, or more
often linseed oil added. After trying many of them, I am partial to Minwax
Antique Oil, though they are all about the same.
A couple of years ago I posted a fairly complete treatise on wood finishing=
,
which should be in the archives somewhere. It contained a lot of good
information. I might try to find it later.
Good luck with your project.
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:32 PM, MEUNIER LEE wrote:
> I'm working on a wood-refinishing project as a display for
> this win
>
>
> I'm working on a wood-refinishing project as a display for
> this winter's home sale. The one I like best is one I
> did some 40 years ago on an antique washstand but I've
> lost the directions for the final finish for the rosewood
> top. I think it's rosewood; whatever, it's exactly what I want
> to achieve. on my display chest. The finish was a 50% clear
> varnish/50% some kind of oil mixture.
>
> This produced very, very thin coats. Mine required 17,
> as I recall, to get the look I wanted. It's shiny, but
> doesn't look like varnish; the washstand has been moved
> many times, including back&forth across country; has
> been in children's rooms when they were very young
> .... still looks like it was finished yesterday even though
> when it was in family tv room... hot drinks, alcoholic
> drinks etc were spilled on it. I can't even recall all
> the disasters that befell this piece; yet, there it sits in
> the guest room looking spiffy as ever although I never
> did like the finished bottom which I applied from one of
> those "antiquing" kits prevalent at the time... yuck.
>
> Any suggestions will be appreciated and tested by me.
> Thank you.
>
> Joyce
> In the Mojave desert of California where Mojo has learned
> to say recognizably "I don't know" which she uses in
> answer to almost everything now. (okay, it's kind of
> slurry; she's only a dog after all.) The painters for the
> old, neglected bathroom are causing her interest to
> wane, however, so they're whistling for her in exchange
> for Mojo responding to appropriate questions. She's
> fascinated by whistling since my efforts are so poor...
> that and snapping my fingers were never conquered by
> this person no matter how much I practiced. At around
> age 9 I found that I could do a parody of snapping my
> fingers by clicking my tongue.... entertained me well
> enough. ( Am I meaning "parody" or pantomime, which
> I'm trying to avoid because I'm sure it's misspelled? AND
> I can't find Spellcheck on this newly revised Verzon/
> Windows dealybob.)
>
>
> My question??? Do any of you woodworkers out there
> know what oil I might have used mixed with the varnish??
>
MEUNIER LEE on mon 22 aug 11
I'm working on a wood-refinishing project as a display for
this win=3D
=3D0A=3D0AI'm working on a wood-refinishing project as a display for=3D0Ath=
is win=3D
ter's home sale.=3DA0 The one I like best is one I=3D0Adid some 40 years ag=
o on=3D
an antique washstand but I've=3D0Alost the directions for the final finish=
=3D
=3DA0 for the rosewood=3D0Atop.=3DA0 I think it's rosewood; whatever, it's =
exactl=3D
y what I want=3D0Ato achieve. on my display chest.=3DA0 The finish was a 50=
% cl=3D
ear=3D0A=3DA0varnish/50% some kind of oil mixture.=3D0A=3D0AThis produced v=
ery, ver=3D
y thin coats.=3DA0 Mine required 17,=3D0Aas I recall, to get the look I wan=
ted.=3D
=3DA0 It's shiny, but=3D0Adoesn't look like varnish; the washstand has been=
mov=3D
ed=3D0Amany times, including back&forth across country; has=3D0Abeen in chi=
ldre=3D
n's rooms when they were very young=3D0A.... still looks like it was finish=
ed=3D
yesterday even though=3D0Awhen it was in family tv room... hot drinks, alc=
oh=3D
olic=3D0Adrinks etc were spilled on it.=3DA0 I can't even recall all=3D0Ath=
e disa=3D
sters that befell this piece; yet, there it sits in=3D0Athe guest room look=
in=3D
g spiffy as ever although I never=3D0Adid like the finished bottom which I =
ap=3D
plied from one of=3D0Athose "antiquing" kits prevalent at the time... yuck.=
=3D
=3D0A=3D0AAny suggestions will be appreciated and tested by me.=3D0AThank y=
ou.=3D0A=3D
=3D0AJoyce=3D0AIn the Mojave desert of California where Mojo has learned=3D=
0Ato s=3D
ay recognizably "I don't know" which she uses in=3D0Aanswer to almost every=
th=3D
ing now.=3DA0 (okay, it's kind of=3D0Aslurry; she's only a dog after all.)=
=3DA0Th=3D
e painters for the=3D0Aold, neglected bathroom are causing her interest to=
=3D0A=3D
wane, however, so they're whistling for her in exchange=3D0Afor Mojo respon=
di=3D
ng to appropriate questions.=3DA0 She's=3D0Afascinated by whistling since m=
y ef=3D
forts are so poor...=3D0Athat and snapping my fingers were never conquered =
by=3D
=3D0Athis person no matter how much I practiced.=3DA0 At around=3D0Aage 9 I=
found=3D
that I could do a parody of snapping my=3D0Afingers by clicking my tongue.=
..=3D
. entertained me well=3D0Aenough.=3DA0 ( Am I meaning "parody" or pantomime=
, wh=3D
ich=3D0AI'm trying to avoid because I'm sure it's misspelled? AND=3D0AI can=
't f=3D
ind Spellcheck on this newly revised Verzon/=3D0AWindows dealybob.)=3D0A=3D=
0A=3D0AM=3D
y question??? Do any of you woodworkers out there=3D0Aknow what oil I might=
h=3D
ave used mixed with the varnish??
Derek Kasper on tue 23 aug 11
I'm working on a wood-refinishing project as a display for this winter's
home sale. The one I like best is one I did some 40 years ago on an antiqu=
e
washstand but I've lost the directions for the final finish for the
rosewood top. I think it's rosewood; whatever, it's exactly what I want to
achieve. on my display chest. The finish was a 50% clear
varnish/50% some kind of oil mixture.
Hi Joyce
You might consider a half and half mixture of varnish and tung oil.
It will not have much lustre and will require several coats to develop some
depth as you have noted. This will be a tough but durable finish. Drying
between coats could drag this project out some, but if you aren't in hurry
it will work. Another finish that has been tried is a 50/50 mix of varnish
and Watco Oil, a commercial product readily available at lumber yards and
hardware stores. You would get pretty much the same results, but even
slower and thinner than the previous version.
Good luck
Derek Kasper
NoTwoAlike.ca
MEUNIER LEE on tue 23 aug 11
You are a true love, Gary!=3DA0 Never thought of right-clicking etc.=3D0AI =
miss=3D
a lot that way but it did seem strange to me that one=3D0Aof Verizon's/Win=
do=3D
w's "improvements" would be to lose the=3D0ASpell Check in this dumbed down=
w=3D
orld.=3DA0 =3D0A=3DA0=3D0AJoyce=3D0AIn the Mojave Desert of California U.S.=
A.=3D0A=3DA0=3D
=3D0A=3DA0=3D0A=3D0AFrom: gary navarre =3D0AT=
o: MEUNIER=3D
LEE ; "Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG" =3D
ICS.ORG>=3D0ASent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:32 PM=3D0ASubject: Re: [Clayar=
t] F=3D
w: Wood Finishing=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AJoyce,=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3DA0Not much wood fin=
ishing experie=3D
nce here yet but I found something interesting since switching to Yahoo's n=
=3D
ew format. When I right click on a misspelled word something is giving a li=
=3D
st of possible corrections. This also happens with Facebook and even YouTub=
=3D
e. Is that the Verizon change you mention? Maybe it's always been there & I=
=3D
just found it but is works OK.=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AGary Navarre=3D0ANavarre Pott=
ery=3D0ANa=3D
varre Enterprises=3D0ANorway, Michigan, USA=3D0Ahttp://www.NavarrePottery.e=
tsy.=3D
com=3D0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/GindaUP=3D0Ahttp://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/=
=3D0A=3D
=3D0AFrom: MEUNIER LEE =3D0ATo: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS=
.ORG=3D
=3D0ASent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:32 PM=3D0ASubject: [Clayart] Fw: Wood=
Fin=3D
ishing=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AI'm working on a wood-refinishing project as a display=
for=3D
=3D0Athis winter's home...=3D0A=3D0AAny suggestions will be appreciated and=
teste=3D
d by me.=3D0AThank you.=3D0A=3D0AJoyce=3D0Aenough.=3DA0 ( Am I meaning "par=
ody" or pa=3D
ntomime, which=3D0AI'm trying to avoid because I'm sure it's misspelled? AN=
D=3D
=3D0AI can't find Spellcheck on this newly revised Verzon/=3D0AWindows deal=
ybob=3D
.)=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AMy question??? Do any of you woodworkers out there=3D0Akno=
w what o=3D
il I might have used mixed with the varnish??
MEUNIER LEE on tue 23 aug 11
=3D0A=3DA0=3D0AThanks, Phil.=3DA0 You've given me thoughts to inspire other=
=3D0Athoug=3D
hts... they're the best kind of thinking.=3D0A=3D0AThe wood is poplar.=3DA0=
It wa=3D
s the hand built tool chest=3D0Aof=3DA0a Western Tennessee (Cumberland Gap)=
car=3D
penter,=3D0Awhich I bought for $15.00 at an auction back in the=3D0A50s.=3D=
A0 It'=3D
s been all over the country also many times=3D0Abut I never properly refini=
sh=3D
ed it since the reddish=3D0Abrown=3DA0stain the carpenter had used on it wa=
s/is=3D
almost=3D0Aimpossible to remove=3D0Awithout sanding for hours and hours.=
=3DA0 It=3D
now abides=3D0Ain my computer room because I love looking at it.=3D0AIt is=
wel=3D
l built, to say the least.=3DA0 The inside is easily=3D0Avisible as poplar =
sinc=3D
e it was never "finished" but was=3D0Akept in immaculate condition by the 8=
0 =3D
plus year old=3D0Acarpenter, as were his tools.... like new they were... no=
,=3D
=3D0Abetter than new... in newish condition with some worn=3D0Aspots.......=
jus=3D
t as its maker was.=3DA0 The chest is strong,=3D0Aaging, with lovely dents =
and =3D
scratches.=3D0A=3D0AMy concoction used on the washstand was 50% oil=3D0Aand=
50% c=3D
lear varnish.=3DA0 I'm not worried about any=3D0Apart of the job except the=
nam=3D
e of the oil.=3DA0 =3D0A=3D0AI've lived a lot of lives, you know, and a chu=
nk of =3D
them=3D0Awas spent as a young navy wife with two babies and a=3D0Ahusband r=
idin=3D
g ships all over the world, little=3D0Amoney, and the desire to have other =
be=3D
autiful things.=3D0AI didn't really have the experience (and possibly the=
=3D0At=3D
alent) for creating from scratch such things, but could=3D0Are-do pieces th=
at=3D
I adored.=3DA0 I sold many when we moved=3D0Awest, some to antique shops (=
NOT =3D
"junque" shops which=3D0Aabounded in those days), others to individuals... =
ot=3D
her=3D0Anavy wives mostly with a true appreciation for "nice=3D0Athings." (=
We d=3D
idn't say "stuff" in those days... it was=3D0Aconsidered a "bad" word by Ma=
ma=3D
Luce as well as a=3D0A"lazy way of expressing oneself...."=3DA0 I'm just s=
ayin=3D
g....=3D0A(how she would despise that expression though I=3D0Apersonally li=
ke t=3D
he attitude behind it.)=3D0A=3D0AAnyway, I want an oil that done properly m=
ade =3D
my=3D0Awashstand look like satin, still does.=3DA0 It was simply=3D0Aa bott=
le of =3D
oil for woodwork, very common.=3DA0 =3D0A=3D0ATake care,=3D0AJoyce in the M=
ojave de=3D
sert of California where the=3D0Apainters are doing work on the "old" bathr=
oo=3D
m=3D0Awalls... work I can no longer do comfortably.=3DA0 That's=3D0Aanother=
"bad"=3D
word.... too much money and time=3D0Aspent seeking "comfort" above all els=
e.=3D
=3DA0
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