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wood firing in cn rail stove

updated tue 26 jul 11

 

David Woof on sun 24 jul 11


Hi Mandy=3D2C

Welcome to Clayart. And don't apologize for "goofing" around with clay.=3DA=
0 =3D
Perhaps we could all do a little more of that!!!

I fired my first piece of clay as a young adult in an AShley down draft woo=
=3D
d stove.=3DA0 I set it overnight on the stove top to drive off the atmosphe=
ri=3D
c water and in the morning I raked all of the coals to the front of the sto=
=3D
ve where the draft vented into the stove and placed the pot at the back. At=
=3D
this time I kept the draft closed almost completely.

I then gradually built up the fire in the front and moved the pot forward u=
=3D
ntil it was in the bed of coals (charcoal). Then I began building up and co=
=3D
vering the pot with a quantity of wood sticks and when the pot was out of s=
=3D
ight in the coals with a good load of burning wood on top=3D3B I opened the=
d=3D
raft and damper full on and in that blast I reached 2=3D2C000 f. I subseque=
nt=3D
ly sprinkled salt and soda (which didn't do the stove any good but did do s=
=3D
ome nice ash and flash on the clay.

I was hooked on clay and fire and subsequently began experimenting with bui=
=3D
lding primitive Kilns outside=3D2C as well as firing pits and ash covered m=
ou=3D
nds.

I later enrolled in a ceramics class which led to a life time in clay.=3D20

Years later I returned to the wood furnace idea with pre bisqued pots wrapp=
=3D
ed in slick colored magazine paper=3D2C salt=3D2C and other stuff that prob=
ably=3D
would have killed me If I had known it should. This time I built a bed of =
=3D
coals=3D2C laid wood sticks on the coals=3D2C buried the wrapped pots in le=
aves=3D
and hay chaff on top of the coals and sticks=3D2C to the point of effectiv=
el=3D
y smothering down the fire to smoking coals.
After heaping sticks atop this arrangement I waited and monitored the fire =
=3D
until the fire had burned through the leaves and into the pots at which tim=
=3D
e I opened the draft and damper and "let-er-rip"! As the wood burned down t=
=3D
o coals and then ash=3D2C again covering the pots=3D2C the pots got a nice =
vari=3D
ety of localized oxidation patterns=3D2C charcoal reduction areas=3D2C and =
flas=3D
hed colorations from the native clay "contaminants" and the vitamin pills=
=3D
=3D2Csalt=3D2C etc.....

Go for it=3D2C and keep in touch=3D3B it is a good place to start your jour=
ney =3D
and experience with the foundation knowledge of clay and fire.=3D20


David Woof.....Clarkdale=3D2C Arizona
__________________________________________=3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0=3D20
> From: Mandy Hutter
> To: =3D2C ic=3D
s.org>=3D2C
>
> Subject: Wood firing in CN Rail Stove
> Date: Fri=3D2C 22 Jul 2011 11:51:40 -0400
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> FILETIME=3D3D[3F72BA50:01CC4887]
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>
> First=3D2C I'm having problems posting to this list and have been for the
> past few months. If this comes out a few times=3D2C it shouldnt happen
> again if I can finally see that this has at least once hit the board.
>
> So=3D2C I'm hoping theres some great folks in this group that can help me
> out with some pottery fun!
>
> Keep in mind=3D2C ALL my experience with anything to do with clay or
> pottery is really just goofing around=3D2C so please pardon me if I"m way
> behind everyone here!
>
> Here's the scenario:
>
> I want to bisque fire in a woodstove.
> I have a CN Rail Stove with a temp gauge that goes up to 900'
> I've got some great processed/filtered/tamed natural clay from a few
> spots on my property.
> I"ve worked in a pottery studio=3D2C my grandfather was a 'potter' and I
> have all his old tools/equipment/curiosity=3D2C and I've set up a temp
> 'studio' to play around in at every one of my 5 houses in the past 3
> years but with never any luck for firing except at my 'teachers' places.
> I now live off grid in a nice cabin at the edge of a forest and have
> time and space to set something up for pottery=3D2C but theres no electri=
ci=3D
ty.
>
> Here's my questions
>
> CAN I bisque fire in a woodstove?
> How can I bring this super natural clay to a finished piece using
> this woodstove?
> What is the timing I would follow on 'firing' (either to bisque or to
> glaze=3D2C or for a double whammy greenware --> finished piece).
>
> Pottery and ceramics is fun=3D2C so itd be nice to generate some
> discussion on this real basic stuff!
>
>
> Mandy Hutter
>
>
>
>
>
>
=3D

Steve Mills on mon 25 jul 11


When I worked (briefly) for the Harris's at Farnham Pottery in Wrecclesham =
U=3D
K, Arthur Harris told me that as kids he and his brother used to fire pots =
i=3D
n the Grate of the open fire.=3D20
They put their pre-dried pieces on a pre-heated clay roof tile on the ember=
s=3D
covered by a flower pot, also pre-heated, surround and cover it all with c=
o=3D
als and watch. They could moniter what was happening via the hole in the fl=
o=3D
wer pot.=3D20
Needless to say we had a go at my parents house; got to well over 800oC ins=
i=3D
de. Great fun!
Going to do it with the Grandchildren when they're old enough!

Steve M


Steve Mills
Bath
UK
www.mudslinger.me.uk
Sent from my Ipod touch

On 24 Jul 2011, at 08:52, David Woof wrote:

> Hi Mandy,
>=3D20
> Welcome to Clayart. And don't apologize for "goofing" around with clay. =
P=3D
erhaps we could all do a little more of that!!!
>=3D20
> I fired my first piece of clay as a young adult in an AShley down draft w=
o=3D
od stove. I set it overnight on the stove top to drive off the atmospheric=
w=3D
ater and in the morning I raked all of the coals to the front of the stove =
w=3D
here the draft vented into the stove and placed the pot at the back. At thi=
s=3D
time I kept the draft closed almost completely.
>=3D20
> I then gradually built up the fire in the front and moved the pot forward=
u=3D
ntil it was in the bed of coals (charcoal). Then I began building up and co=
v=3D
ering the pot with a quantity of wood sticks and when the pot was out of si=
g=3D
ht in the coals with a good load of burning wood on top; I opened the draft=
a=3D
nd damper full on and in that blast I reached 2,000 f. I subsequently sprin=
k=3D
led salt and soda (which didn't do the stove any good but did do some nice =
a=3D
sh and flash on the clay.
>=3D20
> I was hooked on clay and fire and subsequently began experimenting with b=
u=3D
ilding primitive Kilns outside, as well as firing pits and ash covered moun=
d=3D
s.
>=3D20
> I later enrolled in a ceramics class which led to a life time in clay.=3D=
20
>=3D20
> Years later I returned to the wood furnace idea with pre bisqued pots wra=
p=3D
ped in slick colored magazine paper, salt, and other stuff that probably wo=
u=3D
ld have killed me If I had known it should. This time I built a bed of coal=
s=3D
, laid wood sticks on the coals, buried the wrapped pots in leaves and hay =
c=3D
haff on top of the coals and sticks, to the point of effectively smothering=
d=3D
own the fire to smoking coals.
> After heaping sticks atop this arrangement I waited and monitored the fir=
e=3D
until the fire had burned through the leaves and into the pots at which ti=
m=3D
e I opened the draft and damper and "let-er-rip"! As the wood burned down t=
o=3D
coals and then ash, again covering the pots, the pots got a nice variety o=
f=3D
localized oxidation patterns, charcoal reduction areas, and flashed colora=
t=3D
ions from the native clay "contaminants" and the vitamin pills,salt, etc...=
.=3D
.
>=3D20
> Go for it, and keep in touch; it is a good place to start your journey an=
d=3D
experience with the foundation knowledge of clay and fire.=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
> David Woof.....Clarkdale, Arizona
> __________________________________________ =3D20
>> From: Mandy Hutter
>> To: , .=3D
org>,
>>
>> Subject: Wood firing in CN Rail Stove
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:51:40 -0400
>> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2011 15:51:40.0917 (UTC)
>> FILETIME=3D3D[3F72BA50:01CC4887]
>> X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.5.449 [271.1.1/3781]
>>=3D20
>> First, I'm having problems posting to this list and have been for the
>> past few months. If this comes out a few times, it shouldnt happen
>> again if I can finally see that this has at least once hit the board.
>>=3D20
>> So, I'm hoping theres some great folks in this group that can help me
>> out with some pottery fun!
>>=3D20
>> Keep in mind, ALL my experience with anything to do with clay or
>> pottery is really just goofing around, so please pardon me if I"m way
>> behind everyone here!
>>=3D20
>> Here's the scenario:
>>=3D20
>> I want to bisque fire in a woodstove.
>> I have a CN Rail Stove with a temp gauge that goes up to 900'
>> I've got some great processed/filtered/tamed natural clay from a few
>> spots on my property.
>> I"ve worked in a pottery studio, my grandfather was a 'potter' and I
>> have all his old tools/equipment/curiosity, and I've set up a temp
>> 'studio' to play around in at every one of my 5 houses in the past 3
>> years but with never any luck for firing except at my 'teachers' places.
>> I now live off grid in a nice cabin at the edge of a forest and have
>> time and space to set something up for pottery, but theres no electricit=
y=3D
.
>>=3D20
>> Here's my questions
>>=3D20
>> CAN I bisque fire in a woodstove?
>> How can I bring this super natural clay to a finished piece using
>> this woodstove?
>> What is the timing I would follow on 'firing' (either to bisque or to
>> glaze, or for a double whammy greenware --> finished piece).
>>=3D20
>> Pottery and ceramics is fun, so itd be nice to generate some
>> discussion on this real basic stuff!
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>> Mandy Hutter
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>>=3D20
>=3D20

Lee on mon 25 jul 11


A friend of mine regularly primitive fired in a Webber, using a hair
blower to increase the heat. She also had luck using slipped paper
to make a TiPi kiln on top the Webber.

--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

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