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vince and the angle grinder

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Robert Briscoe on mon 10 jan 11


Hello all. I am searching for advice from Vince and all the other tool
folks. I have an angle grinder for grinding kiln shelves ( ash glaze
potter). My question is "what type of grinder head do you recommend"?
Thanks much. Bob Briscoe
www.minnesotapotters.com

Patrick Cross on mon 10 jan 11


(aha... nostalgia).

Your subject line reminded me of a story that I was read when I was a wee
person.

Mike And His Steam Shovel.

I bet many of you remember that story too,

Patrick L. Cross
Cone10Soda

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Robert Briscoe wrote=
:

> Hello all. I am searching for advice from Vince and all the other tool
> folks. I have an angle grinder for grinding kiln shelves ( ash glaze
> potter). My question is "what type of grinder head do you recommend"?
> Thanks much. Bob Briscoe
> www.minnesotapotters.com
>

James Freeman on mon 10 jan 11


On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Cross wrote=
:

> (aha... nostalgia).
>
> Your subject line reminded me of a story that I was read when I was a wee
> person.
>
> Mike And His Steam Shovel.
>
> I bet many of you remember that story too,
>





Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel. Remember it well!

I always felt sorry for Mary Anne, the steam shovel. That once proud
machine, heroically slaving away for the sake of others, then instead of
thanks she gets gutted and shackled, and turned into a lowly furnace, where
she is supposed to feel honored as she is forced to provide comfort for the
politicians. Her operator, poor Mike, fares even worse. The skilled heavy
equipment operator is reduced to a janitor, and spends his remaining days
cleaning the politicians' toilets. Reminds me of the horses in Animal Farm=
.

Take care.

...James

James Freeman

"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."

"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne

http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources

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Johanna San Inocencio on mon 10 jan 11


You mean Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel? that is a classic written =3D
before WWII
On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Patrick Cross wrote:

> (aha... nostalgia).
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> Your subject line reminded me of a story that I was read when I was a =3D
wee
> person.
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> Mike And His Steam Shovel.
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> I bet many of you remember that story too,
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> Patrick L. Cross
> Cone10Soda
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> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Robert Briscoe =3D
wrote:
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>> Hello all. I am searching for advice from Vince and all the other =3D
tool
>> folks. I have an angle grinder for grinding kiln shelves ( ash glaze
>> potter). My question is "what type of grinder head do you =3D
recommend"?
>> Thanks much. Bob Briscoe
>> www.minnesotapotters.com
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Patrick Cross on mon 10 jan 11


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Do3Hdobado20

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Patrick Cross wrote=
:

> I thought that might draw some attention....... (heeheehee).
>
> I still have my childhood copy... somewhere.
>
> High Time I found it again..
>
> Patrick L. Cross
> Cone10Soda
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:48 PM, James Freeman <
> jamesfreemanstudio@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Cross wr=
ote:
>>
>>> (aha... nostalgia).
>>>
>>> Your subject line reminded me of a story that I was read when I was a w=
ee
>>> person.
>>>
>>> Mike And His Steam Shovel.
>>>
>>> I bet many of you remember that story too,
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel. Remember it well!
>>
>> I always felt sorry for Mary Anne, the steam shovel. That once proud
>> machine, heroically slaving away for the sake of others, then instead of
>> thanks she gets gutted and shackled, and turned into a lowly furnace, wh=
ere
>> she is supposed to feel honored as she is forced to provide comfort for =
the
>> politicians. Her operator, poor Mike, fares even worse. The skilled he=
avy
>> equipment operator is reduced to a janitor, and spends his remaining day=
s
>> cleaning the politicians' toilets. Reminds me of the horses in Animal F=
arm.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> ...James
>>
>> James Freeman
>>
>> "...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
>> preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
>>
>> "All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I shou=
ld
>> not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
>> -Michel de Montaigne
>>
>> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
>> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
>>
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Patrick Cross on mon 10 jan 11


I thought that might draw some attention....... (heeheehee).

I still have my childhood copy... somewhere.

High Time I found it again..

Patrick L. Cross
Cone10Soda

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:48 PM, James Freeman <
jamesfreemanstudio@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Cross wro=
te:
>
>> (aha... nostalgia).
>>
>> Your subject line reminded me of a story that I was read when I was a we=
e
>> person.
>>
>> Mike And His Steam Shovel.
>>
>> I bet many of you remember that story too,
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel. Remember it well!
>
> I always felt sorry for Mary Anne, the steam shovel. That once proud
> machine, heroically slaving away for the sake of others, then instead of
> thanks she gets gutted and shackled, and turned into a lowly furnace, whe=
re
> she is supposed to feel honored as she is forced to provide comfort for t=
he
> politicians. Her operator, poor Mike, fares even worse. The skilled hea=
vy
> equipment operator is reduced to a janitor, and spends his remaining days
> cleaning the politicians' toilets. Reminds me of the horses in Animal Fa=
rm.
>
> Take care.
>
> ...James
>
> James Freeman
>
> "...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
> preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
>
> "All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I shoul=
d
> not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
> -Michel de Montaigne
>
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
>
> <#12d71428091d1a47_>
> <#12d71428091d1a47_> <#12d71428091d1a47_> <#12d71428091=
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>

Vince Pitelka on mon 10 jan 11


Hi Bob -
Ah yes, that old childhood classic, "Vince and the Angle Grinder."

Seriously, it depends on the size of your angle grinder. If you have a big
7" or 9", then a silicon carbide cup wheel from www.grainger.com. It is
referred to as "Norton rough portable flaring cup wheel, type 11," and it i=
s
Grainger item #6AO80. This is a 6" silicon carbide cup wheel with 5/8x11
thread, but the gyroscopic action would be way too much for a little 4.5"
angle grinder.

For the normal 4.5" or 5" angle grinders that most of us have, standard
fiberglass-reinforced silicon-carbide grinding disks work okay, but tend to
wear quickly. Grainger, Fastenal, and other suppliers have smaller cup
wheels appropriate for these angle grinders. Go to www.grainger.com and
enter item #4DDT5. This is a 4" cup wheel, and should work great. The
advantage of a cup stone is that you can grind with either the face or the
outer edge, and using the face can be very effective for leveling a rough
shelf. With the fiberglass-reinforced grinding disks you only grind along
the edge, and while it will grind away glaze drips, it does not function to
level the shelf.

If you have to do a lot of very heavy grinding, you might want to consider
getting a 7" or 9" angle grinder (DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee, and Hitachi al=
l
make good ones). Also, with any angle grinder from 4" to 9" you can get a
diamond cup wheel. Go to
http://www.mcgillswarehouse.com/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=3D120 or just g=
o
to www.mcgillswarehouse.com and click "Tools and Hardware" and then click
"Polishing Pads, Adaptors, and Grinder Cups." Scroll down the page past all
the diamond polishing pads and you will come to diamond cup wheels. They
have 4", 5" and larger ones. The prices are very reasonable. I do not
really know the difference between the cold-pressed and the hot-pressed, bu=
t
the latter is more expensive and I assume is probably a better quality and
perhaps longer-lasting. Grainger charges three or four times as much for
the same diamond cup wheels.

A note of caution. We have a 7" diamond cup wheel for use on our large
angle grinder, and these things are AGGRESSIVE! Use them with a very light
touch or you will find yourself gouging very quickly and deeply into your
kiln shelf. But if you have a lot of nasty grinding to do, these things ar=
e
the ticket.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka

Vince Pitelka on mon 10 jan 11


James Freeman wrote regarding the child's book "Mike Mulligan and his Steam
Shovel":

"I always felt sorry for Mary Anne, the steam shovel. That once proud
machine, heroically slaving away for the sake of others, then instead of
thanks she gets gutted and shackled, and turned into a lowly furnace, where
she is supposed to feel honored as she is forced to provide comfort for the
politicians. Her operator, poor Mike, fares even worse. The skilled heavy
equipment operator is reduced to a janitor, and spends his remaining days
cleaning the politicians' toilets."

James -
Yes, I felt the same way. It was pretty poor planning to not leave a way t=
o
get the steam shovel back out of the basement, and the solution was not ver=
y
satisfactory for Mary Anne or Mike.

Virginia Lee Burton also wrote "The Little House," a wonderful book about a
picturesque cottage built out in the countryside, and then the city
encroaches and eventually the little house is boarded up, trapped in the
darkness between two giant skyscrapers. The image is great - boards nailed
criss-cross over the windows just like the X's in the eyes of a cartoon dea=
d
person. At any rate, the granddaughter or great granddaughter of the
original owner happens to spot the little house trapped in the city, and
engages a house-moving firm to transport the house back out into the
countryside, where it is restored to its previous rural splendor. Now I've
spoiled the story for all of you, but not really, because it is one of thos=
e
wonderful, sappy, well-illustrated stories that you just have to go back an=
d
read now and again.

My brother and I had both of these books when we were little. I don't know
what happened to those copies, but we bought both books for our son Morgan,
and he saved them and he and Brenda read them to our grandsons Ravi and
Luca.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka

Paul Haigh on tue 11 jan 11


I use a diamond cup head on my angle grinder. Have to learn the touch,
but it works great.

Paul Haigh
http://whmudworks.com