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possible free wood for kilns???

updated sun 27 jun 10

 

James Freeman on fri 25 jun 10


On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Murry Gans wr=
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> I was on a car trip with my daughter last week and on the way from Roswel=
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l, NM to Lubbock, TX there were miles and miles of railroad ties being repl=
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aced. The old ties had been ripped up and piled along the track every 100 =
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feet or so. Though I don't wood fire I was wondering if this might be a so=
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urce of free fuel for those of you who do.
>



Murry...

Creosote is listed by the EPA as a restricted-use pesticide, meaning
that you need a license to apply, handle, or use it. Many states have
restrictions on the open burning of treated wood, and it is dangerous
regardless. Creosote is full of all sorts of nasty chemicals. In
most places, creosote treated wood, though not listed by the EPA as
hazardous waste, can only be disposed of by burial in a landfill or by
very high temperature commercial incineration. Here is a snippet from
the EPA:

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regulation under rules developed under the Federal Insecticide,
Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA). In particular, on July 3,
1984, EPA issued its Rebuttable Presumption Against Registration
(RPAR) for the three major wood preservations--namely, creosote,
pentachlorophenol, and inorganic arsenicals. Among other things, these
rules require that wood which has been treated with creosote should
not be burned in an outdoor fire or in stoves or fireplaces; rather,
this wood should be buried in a non-hazardous waste landfill unless
otherwise required by the State. This requirement was included to
ensure that no toxic contaminants would be released as a result of the
burning process.
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Best to leave it as the railroad's problem!

All the best.

...James

James Freeman

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Murry Gans on fri 25 jun 10


I was on a car trip with my daughter last week and on the way from Roswell=
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eplaced. The old ties had been ripped up and piled along the track every 1=
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00 feet or so. Though I don't wood fire I was wondering if this might be a=
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source of free fuel for those of you who do.

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The only draw back I can see is that I am pretty sure these ties at one tim=
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e were heavily treated with creosote and that might be a really bad thing t=
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creosote

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If they are usable I bet you the railroad would be delighted for any one to=
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haul off as much as they wanted.

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Murry Gans

Murry's Pottery

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Des & Jan Howard on sat 26 jun 10


Murry
The biggest problem with the use of railway sleepers,
(railroad ties to you), is the rock ballast & metal
dust & grit plays hell with an ordinary chainsaw chain.
In Oz, old railway sleepers are not given away, they
fetch premiums, landscape gardening uses every one.
Des

Murry Gans wrote:
> I was on a car trip with my daughter last week and on the
> way from Roswell, NM to Lubbock, TX there were miles and
> miles of railroad ties being replaced.
> The old ties had been ripped up and piled along the
> track every 100 feet or so. Though I don't wood fire I was wondering
> if this might be a source of free fuel for those of you who do.
> The only draw back I can see is that I am pretty sure these ties
> at one time were heavily treated with creosote and that might be a
> really bad thing to burn in a kiln.
> If they are usable I bet you the railroad would be delighted for any
> one to haul off as much as they wanted.

--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850

02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
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