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b-mix for woodfire

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Eva Gallagher on sat 22 may 10


I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If so
which ones?
As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on adding
some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help to melt
some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda or salt=
?
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Eva Gallagher
http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/

Lee Love on sun 23 may 10


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Bottom bottle is Continental Clays B-clay, fired in Craig's anagama

--
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the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi

suze on sun 23 may 10


i wasn't thrilled with b-mix for woodfire... even with flashing
slip... salt was used in both of the firings where i used some b-mix.

the clays i'm in love with for woodfire are standard 437 and 621, troy
porcelain and stoneware. especially the porcelain. i took the pre-
NCECA workshop with jack - the kiln was a catenary arch tube kiln with
a separate salt chamber (100 cu. ft. total - i'd say the salt chamber
is 40 cu. ft.). the firing was about 44 hours - 32 hours to ^12 and
held at ^12 for 12 hours. i didn't use any flashing slip and the
flashing i got is gorgeous. most of my pots were in the wood-only
chamber. they also throw very well.

i'm not a very experienced wood firer, and have used a number of
different clay bodies in the firings i've done. the standard clays
are my unqualified favorites (standard has another stoneware for
woodfire - #508 - but i haven't used it). i'm a porcelain potter -
i've got some tests of the porcelain with my regular reduction glazes
that i hope will be fabulous so i can switch to the troy porcelain for
all my work.

suze uttal
boston, ma

On May 22, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Eva Gallagher wrote:

> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If
> so
> which ones?
> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on
> adding
> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help
> to melt
> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda
> or salt?
> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Eva Gallagher
> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
>

Eva Gallagher on sun 23 may 10


Hi Suze, thanks for the information - several have suggested the Standard
clays - however I live in Ontario and so am not able to buy those. I guess
I will try to avoid the Bmix in the salt/soda section - but will put in lot
of tests.
I only fire about 18 hours so won't have that much heat and ash work.
I do have some Coleman porcelain and so will try that as well.
Eva Gallagher
http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message -----
----- Original Message -----
From: "suze"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: B-Mix for woodfire


>i wasn't thrilled with b-mix for woodfire... even with flashing
> slip... salt was used in both of the firings where i used some b-mix.
>
> the clays i'm in love with for woodfire are standard 437 and 621, troy
> porcelain and stoneware. especially the porcelain. i took the pre-
> NCECA workshop with jack - the kiln was a catenary arch tube kiln with
> a separate salt chamber (100 cu. ft. total - i'd say the salt chamber
> is 40 cu. ft.). the firing was about 44 hours - 32 hours to ^12 and
> held at ^12 for 12 hours. i didn't use any flashing slip and the
> flashing i got is gorgeous. most of my pots were in the wood-only
> chamber. they also throw very well.
>
> i'm not a very experienced wood firer, and have used a number of
> different clay bodies in the firings i've done. the standard clays
> are my unqualified favorites (standard has another stoneware for
> woodfire - #508 - but i haven't used it). i'm a porcelain potter -
> i've got some tests of the porcelain with my regular reduction glazes
> that i hope will be fabulous so i can switch to the troy porcelain for
> all my work.
>
> suze uttal
> boston, ma
>
> On May 22, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Eva Gallagher wrote:
>
>> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
>> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If
>> so
>> which ones?
>> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on
>> adding
>> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help
>> to melt
>> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda
>> or salt?
>> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Eva Gallagher
>> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>

Sumi von Dassow on sun 23 may 10


Eva

I have used it. It flashes nicely. I did notice that it is much more
prone to getting s-cracks
on the bottom of the pot. I haven't used it with salt or soda.

Sumi
> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If so
> which ones?
> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on
> adding
> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help to
> melt
> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda or
> salt?
> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Eva Gallagher
> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
>
--
Sumi von Dassow
www.herwheel.com
sumi@herwheel.com

Craig Edwards on sun 23 may 10


Hello Eva: I've recently started using some b-mix in wood-firing and have
had very good results. It seems to be very receptive to ash and flash, wood
firing is pretty diverse so results can vary wildly, with type of wood,
atmosphere etc. so take it for what it's worth.
Have a good firing!!

--
Make Good Pots
~Craig
New London MN
http://woodfiredpottery.blogspot.com/

Kiln building workshop October 15-22
Taku, Japan
karatsupots-workshop.blogspot.com/

On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Eva Gallagher wrote:

> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If so
> which ones?
> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on addin=
g
> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help to me=
lt
> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda or
> salt?
> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Eva Gallagher
> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
>

Luke Nealey on mon 24 may 10


Suze, if you are a porcelain potter you really ought to fire some of Michae=
l
Wendt's helmer body. It flashes great in my fast fire type kiln. He ships
it in priority mail boxes and it ends up comparing reasonably, price
wise, to other wet clays. I just call him and he puts it in the mail
(you'll get his website if you google Michael Wendt). Usual disclaimers,
never have met Michael etc.

Luke Nealey
Rankin Co. MS



> i'm a porcelain potter -
> i've got some tests of the porcelain with my regular reduction glazes
> that i hope will be fabulous so i can switch to the troy porcelain for
> all my work.
>
> suze uttal
> boston, ma

tony clennell on mon 24 may 10


Craig; I believe you could fire a goat terd and have it come out
beautifully flashed. Are you able to get those beautiful blues from
the clay?
All thebest,
Tony

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Craig Edwards wr=
ote:
> Hello Eva: I've recently started using some b-mix in wood-firing and have
> had very good results. It seems to be very receptive to ash and flash, wo=
od
> firing is pretty diverse so results can vary wildly, with type of wood,
> atmosphere etc. so take it for what it's worth.
> Have a good firing!!
>
> --
> Make Good Pots
> ~Craig
> New London MN
> http://woodfiredpottery.blogspot.com/
>
> Kiln building workshop October 15-22
> Taku, Japan
> karatsupots-workshop.blogspot.com/
>
> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Eva Gallagher wrote:
>
>> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
>> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If so
>> which ones?
>> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on addi=
ng
>> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help to m=
elt
>> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda or
>> salt?
>> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Eva Gallagher
>> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
>>
>



--
http://sourcherrypottery.com
http://smokieclennell.blogspot.com

Carolyn Boeri on mon 24 may 10


Hi All,
I have finished, what seems to be a wonderful assortment of yummy
varigatedly flashed S14 stoneware sculpture and pieces of work from the
recent woodfiring. People like them but I have difficulty with the market
part. I want to sell direct, and I do, slowly.... But people are beginning
to recognize my work, original birdbaths, extruded altered women and
children forms, critters, buddhas, roses on metal stems, forever
blooming,.... anyway, its not easy, but I just have to do it my way, as the
light dawns, so to speak.
I think it would be fun to have a website, once I get through the anxiety
of what that means, then more people would be able to see my work. I have
got to take a computer course, anyone know of a good computer tutor in the
Upper Valley (Vermont) near Dartmouth?
Here's Hoping, sorry Mipham, (Shambhalian/buddhists know there is no hope
and no fear.) and ....So I continue, slowly......

like a seasoned old snail
knowing and feeling what impermanence is.
\
Carolyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "tony clennell"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: B-Mix for woodfire


> Craig; I believe you could fire a goat terd and have it come out
> beautifully flashed. Are you able to get those beautiful blues from
> the clay?
> All thebest,
> Tony
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Craig Edwards
> wrote:
>> Hello Eva: I've recently started using some b-mix in wood-firing and hav=
e
>> had very good results. It seems to be very receptive to ash and flash,
>> wood
>> firing is pretty diverse so results can vary wildly, with type of wood,
>> atmosphere etc. so take it for what it's worth.
>> Have a good firing!!
>>
>> --
>> Make Good Pots
>> ~Craig
>> New London MN
>> http://woodfiredpottery.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Kiln building workshop October 15-22
>> Taku, Japan
>> karatsupots-workshop.blogspot.com/
>>
>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Eva Gallagher wrote:
>>
>>> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
>>> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If so
>>> which ones?
>>> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on
>>> adding
>>> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help to
>>> melt
>>> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda or
>>> salt?
>>> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Eva Gallagher
>>> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://sourcherrypottery.com
> http://smokieclennell.blogspot.com
>
>

Chic Lotz on mon 24 may 10


Eva,

I used B-mix for years in the woodfire, it was my favorite.....I loved
the ash dripping down onto my shino glaze. I throw very thin, so
another great effect was to just use shino on the inside of the pot,
leaving the outside bare.... the outside flashes well since the
soluble soda ash in the shino glaze moves into the clay body during
drying.

Here is a flashing slip recipe that worked well on bisqued B-mix:
73 Helmar kaolin
25 Neph Sye
2 Soda Ash

So it really depends on the "look" that you are after from your
woodfired pieces. Some like em crusty and rough, I like em smooth and
dripping with ash on shino.

Enjoy,
Chic
Chic@PotteryPoet.com
www.PotteryPoet.com

>
> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If
> so
> which ones?
> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on
> adding
> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help
> to melt
> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda
> or salt?
> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Eva Gallagher
> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/

Craig Edwards on tue 25 may 10


Tony: Good to hear from you! I don't know sh*t, so probably no flashing o=
n
the goat terd. There are some great blues from b-mix but it has to be hot,
and it starts get problems with dunting and deforming. The latest twist in
firing has been taking the wooden door (rifling, flamethrower.. it's called
a lot of things) technique to extremes with 4 foot long stokes, using some
dry 1"x1"x4' pine... We call it the party wood, and rightly so!! We went
from cone 8 to cone 10 in three stokes!! Well, typing doesn't get the wood
split.
Glad you survived Italy and Good Fires!

--
Make Good Pots
~Craig
New London MN
http://woodfiredpottery.blogspot.com/


On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:39 AM, tony clennell wro=
te:

> Craig; I believe you could fire a goat terd and have it come out
> beautifully flashed. Are you able to get those beautiful blues from
> the clay?
> All thebest,
> Tony
>
>
--
Make Good Pots
~Craig
New London MN
http://woodfiredpottery.blogspot.com/

Kiln building workshop October 15-22
Taku, Japan
karatsupots-workshop.blogspot.com/

Eva Gallagher on tue 25 may 10


Hi Chic - that's a great tip with the thin pot and shino inside. Your
flashing slip recipe is the first that I have seen with soda ash in it - I
really like that as the flashing slips I used that had Helmar in it came
out rather dry.
By the way I enjoyed the after hours presentation that you gave at MISSA
last summer on glaze calculation.
Eva Gallagher
http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chic Lotz"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: B-mix for Woodfire


> Eva,
>
> I used B-mix for years in the woodfire, it was my favorite.....I loved
> the ash dripping down onto my shino glaze. I throw very thin, so
> another great effect was to just use shino on the inside of the pot,
> leaving the outside bare.... the outside flashes well since the
> soluble soda ash in the shino glaze moves into the clay body during
> drying.
>
> Here is a flashing slip recipe that worked well on bisqued B-mix:
> 73 Helmar kaolin
> 25 Neph Sye
> 2 Soda Ash
>
> So it really depends on the "look" that you are after from your
> woodfired pieces. Some like em crusty and rough, I like em smooth and
> dripping with ash on shino.
>
> Enjoy,
> Chic
> Chic@PotteryPoet.com
> www.PotteryPoet.com
>
>>
>> I'm planning my second woodfire and have bought some special B-mix for
>> woodfiring. Does it flash well or do you still use flashing slip? If
>> so
>> which ones?
>> As I have a train kiln with four side stokes holes I am planning on
>> adding
>> some soda and/or salt to the last stoke hole, hoping this will help
>> to melt
>> some of the ash. Anyone expperience with B-mix for woodfire in soda
>> or salt?
>> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Eva Gallagher
>> http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
>
>

David Woof on tue 1 jun 10


Hi Eva=3D2C I occasionally use B-mix (Laguna Version) in wood fire and a=
ls=3D
o with additions of native refractory clays I find along the Rio Verde and =
=3D
up on the Mogollon Rim of Arizona. One in particular is a deep red/brown cl=
=3D
ay(some solubles) that self glazes but holds it's stand alone vessel shape =
=3D
@ cone 10 and when mixed with the B-mix 50/50 causes the B-mix to flash ext=
=3D
ra beautifully. Salts great as well.
=3D20
B-mix=3D2C and the glorified B-mix version of the Laguna woodfire body give=
e=3D
xciting color and flash in ranges from cones 4 to 6-8 in my wood fire "Hobb=
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it" sculpture chamber and in the old cat which I fire to the cone 10 to 12 =
=3D
range depending on type of work and glazes used. Several local pit firers =
=3D
have gotten the woodfire body from me and report for it's exceptional color=
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in that firing range and conditions as well.=3D20


I use and enjoy commercial clays formulated for dependable vessels of utili=
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ty and table=3D2C but for me the real excitement that makes my feet hit th=
e =3D
floor before sunrise is the possible surprise character that local native c=
=3D
lays give to decorative and sculptural vessels in different heat zones=3D2C=
t=3D
imes and atmospheres of firing. A blind date with a ticket to possible par=
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adise or hell. each will have it's memories and satisfactions.
Good potting=3D2C bon fue=3D2C
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2c. Re: B-Mix for woodfire
Posted by: "Craig Edwards" woodfiredpots@GMAIL.COM=3D20
Date: Sun May 23=3D2C 2010 7:30 pm ((PDT))

Hello Eva: I've recently started using some b-mix in wood-firing and have
had very good results. It seems to be very receptive to ash and flash=3D2C =
wo=3D
od
firing is pretty diverse so results can vary wildly=3D2C with type of wood=
=3D2C
atmosphere etc. so take it for what it's worth.
Have a good firing!!

--
Make Good Pots
~Craig
New London MN
http://woodfiredpottery.blogspot.com/
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