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Maurice Weitman on wed 6 jan 10


At 8:45 -0600 on 1/6/10, mel jacobson wrote:
>but, my canon sureshot is in my pocket all the time,

My son, Osa, graduated with a photojournalism and photography degree
a while back.

He was an early adopter and bought a Nikon D-100 with a honking zoom
lens. He used it for about two years. It weighs 3.5 pounds. After
he graduated, he bought a small Canon. Fits in his shirt pocket,
weighs 4.5 ounces.

I bought a Panasonic Lumix 10 mp, which is much larger than the small
Canon I had been using. I bought it for its 18x optical zoom. The
lens is very good. Much better than the small Canons.

I had been using another large camera, a Sony F717, which has an
ENORMOUS, fabulous Zeiss lens, still only 3x zoom.

As Osa says, the best camera is the one you have with you. As with
most things, it's a trade-off. For studio work, a large, more
capable camera is great. For everything else, one can't beat those
smaller, good cameras like the Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, etc.

Regards,
Maurice

Lee Love on wed 6 jan 10


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Maurice Weitman wrote:

> As Osa says, the best camera is the one you have with you.

We had a Nokia "Smart" phone with a 3mp camera in it. I used it
often, was always with me. Was great for most things folks use
cameras for. Perfect for web images. Had a large optical telescopic
lens. Not tiny optics like on my current Sanyo Katana.

I asked Jean to bring it to the States when she left Japan. But when
she went in to end her cell service, the counter person asked her if
she wanted to "recycle" it. Jean thought, "It would be great if
someone could keep using it." and handed it over. The young women
put it in a jaw device that had spikes on both sides, and pierced the
cell phone before Jean could stop her. So much for "recycling."

--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97tha=
t is, "T=3D
heW
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue

Vince Pitelka on wed 6 jan 10


I've been reading the responses from Maurice and others, and it is all good=
,
sound information. I have a big D-series Nikon that I bought several years
ago for photographing artwork, and when shooting other images for
publication. I have a tiny Casio 10MP pocket camera, and that's the one I
generally took when hiking while out west in the summers. But I really fel=
l
in love with the Nikon DSLR - the image quality and the options. I've got
an 18-200 image-stabilized zoom on it that is fabulous, and the little
pocket camera just can't compete. I still love the tiny camera for general
use. I always have it on my belt at NCECA and any other places/events wher=
e
I might want to shoot good quality images, but where the superior quality o=
f
the Nikon is not required. But now, when I am hiking out west, I always
bring the Nikon. I bought the most compact DSLR case I could find, and on
short hikes I just hang the case around my neck. On long hikes I remove th=
e
neck strap and clip the case to the back of my hydration pack, and I don't
really notice that it is there. The only downside is that I have to take
off the pack to access the camera, so when I am in places where I am
shooting lots of images I just carry it in my hand, and that has worked out
fine.

My Nikon is a D40x, which is 10MP, and the Casio is 10MP. In terms of imag=
e
quality, I think that the Casio does about as well as any tiny pocket camer=
a
can do, but the images produced by the Nikon are so clearly superior. It
just shows that megapixels are just one of many considerations. The best
lenses for those tiny cameras are being built by Pentax, Zeiss, Leica, and
others, and they do amazingly well for their size, but there is no way they
can compete with a bigger lens.

By the way, I would not buy another Casio tiny camera. The first one I had
was a 4MP, and it served me very faithfully for several years, and I still
use it at school for documenting class reviews. While camping out on the
Black Rock Desert with Paul Herman in the summer of 2007 I dropped it on a
rock. It cracked the lens housing, and I thought it was dead, because the
lens was slightly askew. But I snapped the pieces back into place and it
still worked fine. I was about to go to Turkey for three weeks, and did no=
t
want to take any chances on it, so I bought a new tiny 10MP Casio at Costco=
.


That camera performed great in Turkey (3200 images in three weeks), but as
soon as I got back it started crashing, and every time it happened I would
have to take out the battery and put it back in. Costco has the 90-day
return policy, and I was just inside that limit. The early 4MP Casio had
cost $399 when new, the 10MP for the trip to Turkey cost $249, and then whe=
n
I took that one back to Costco about two months later, the price had droppe=
d
another $32 bucks. They actually refunded that amount when they gave me a
new camera. The newest one has worked okay, but I do not think that the
overall quality is as good as my first Casio, and when I replace it, I will
get a tiny Nikon, Canon, Panasonic - something other than a Casio. It's too
bad, because generally they make very good products. My digital projector
is a Casio, and I love it.

That was almost a treatise.
- Vince

Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka

Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on wed 6 jan 10


Hi Lee,

They probably wanted to recycle the materials inside the phone. These
are expensive, rare, and are causing much political and ecological
mayhem where they are mined (mostly China). Any recycling of these
materials is a good thing.

Lynn


>
> I asked Jean to bring it to the States when she left Japan. But when
> she went in to end her cell service, the counter person asked her if
> she wanted to "recycle" it. Jean thought, "It would be great if
> someone could keep using it." and handed it over. The young women
> put it in a jaw device that had spikes on both sides, and pierced the
> cell phone before Jean could stop her. So much for "recycling."

Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com

Lee Love on wed 6 jan 10


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery
wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> They probably wanted to recycle the materials inside the phone. These are
> expensive, rare, and are causing much political and ecological mayhem whe=
=3D
re
> they are mined (mostly China). Any recycling of these materials is a good
> thing.

But a 3g smart phone with a 3gb camera with a good lens is an even
better thing.

--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97tha=
t is, "T=3D
he
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue