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which glaze book to get next?

updated fri 19 dec 97

 

pedresel@3-cities.com on mon 15 dec 97

I was pouring over the Potter Shop sale catalogue and realized that I was
going to have to restrain myself. So maybe people could give me some
suggestions on books. I have been working on getting some ^6 oxidation
glazes that work for me and am planning on delving into ^03 at some point.
I feel like there is still more to learn from reading as well as from the
labour part. I have Rhodes Clay and Glazes for the Potter, Zakin Electric
Kiln Ceramics, Chappell, Hammer & Hammer, Rogers Ash Glazes as my main
books for glaze inspiration. I feel comfortable with the concepts of glaze
calculation but find my books have little or no information on limit
formulas and other keys to what the formulas actually tell you.

So does anyone have recommendations for additions to my library? I am
considering Hopper Ceramic Spectrum, Currie Stoneware Glazes, and would
consider Parmelee if it's really worth having in spite of being so spendy.
Also thinking about Lana Wilson Ceramics: Shape and Surface.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Evan in Eastern Washington USA who snagged a bowl with a really interesting
oil-spot temmoku at the community college faculty sale. Kept trying to wipe
the dust off though until I realized that the faint finger marks were
residual from loading the kiln -talk about a finicky surface.

Karl P. Platt on tue 16 dec 97

What book to buy depends on what you want to do: Use recipies or learn how
to cook. Parmelee's book is invaluable

Bill Aycock on tue 16 dec 97

One choice you did not mention that is a VERY important book that you
should consider, is "The Magic of Fire" by Tony Hansen, who is a very
frequent visitor to this list.

It is printed by IMC, in Alberta, Canada. but a lot of it is available on
the web, along with additional work by a number of other potters, at

DigitalFire.COM &
www.CeramicSoftware.COM

New URLs that are easy to remember.

I STRONGLY advise you to get this book.

Bill, who has his copy close at hand, on Persimmon Hill

At 11:36 AM 12/15/97 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was pouring over the Potter Shop sale catalogue and realized that I was
>going to have to restrain myself. So maybe people could give me some
>suggestions on books.

Bill Aycock --- Persimmon Hill --- Woodville, Alabama, US 35776
--- (in the N.E. corner of the State) ---
W4BSG -- Grid EM64vr --
baycock@hiwaay.net

David Hendley on tue 16 dec 97

Hey Evan, I sure do like my newest glaze book,
"Out of the Earth, Into the Fire" by Mimi Obstler.
It takes a different tack compared to straight glaze calculation,
focusing on really learning about glaze materials.
So much to read, so little time...
David Hendley

At 11:36 AM 12/15/97 EST, you wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was pouring over the Potter Shop sale catalogue and realized that I was
>going to have to restrain myself. So maybe people could give me some
>suggestions on books. I have been working on getting some ^6 oxidation
>glazes that work for me and am planning on delving into ^03 at some point.
>I feel like there is still more to learn from reading as well as from the
>labour part. I have Rhodes Clay and Glazes for the Potter, Zakin Electric
>Kiln Ceramics, Chappell, Hammer & Hammer, Rogers Ash Glazes as my main
>books for glaze inspiration. I feel comfortable with the concepts of glaze
>calculation but find my books have little or no information on limit
>formulas and other keys to what the formulas actually tell you.
>
>So does anyone have recommendations for additions to my library? I am
>considering Hopper Ceramic Spectrum, Currie Stoneware Glazes, and would
>consider Parmelee if it's really worth having in spite of being so spendy.
>Also thinking about Lana Wilson Ceramics: Shape and Surface.
>
>Thanks for the suggestions.
>
>Evan in Eastern Washington USA who snagged a bowl with a really interesting
>oil-spot temmoku at the community college faculty sale. Kept trying to wipe
>the dust off though until I realized that the faint finger marks were
>residual from loading the kiln -talk about a finicky surface.
>
>
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
See David Hendley's Pottery Page at
http://www.sosis.com/hendley/david/

Paul and c2 on tue 16 dec 97

Try Emmanuel Cooper's books...

Paul Lewing on tue 16 dec 97

Evan,

Here's my personal take on your question about glaze books.

Hopper's Ceramic Spectrum is the best book I've seen on color in
glazes. But there is no info on limit formulas and the empirical
formula way of looking at glazes. That's conscious on Robin's part.
I've heard him say that all that stuff is not only of no value, it's
distracting.

I love Parmalee, but for the first 25 years or so of my ceramic career
including graduate school, I could only understand about one sentence
in 5 if I tried real hard. Now that I've got calculation software and
am used to thinking in oxide terms, I can get about one in 3. So I'm
progressing, right?

The best book I've seen about limit formulas and that approach to
glazes is Tony Hansen's Magic of Fire, the handbook that comes with
the Insight program. Insert the usual disclaimers here about
financial involvement.

Happy studying,
Paul Lewing, Seattle

rballou@mnsinc.com on tue 16 dec 97

I vote for Currie's Stoneware Glazes, especially if you're interested in
understanding glaze limits. Stoneware Glazes is an "interactive" book;
you'll learn more by doing the series of outlined experiments. The
resulting library of tiles is a valuable reference that shows the
properties and effects of glaze oxides at various molecular values and in
various firing conditinos. For example, .9 moles of CaO is over the limit
according to most charts. The .9 CaO tile shows the effect of this much
calcium over a series of glazes in which the alumina and silica are
systematically varied. Some of the glazes are very interesting. As it turns
out, some of the ancient Oriental glazes fall within the parameters of this
tile. This one tile graphically shows the limits of alumina and silica for
a .9 CaO glaze. The rest of the experiments systematically examine a series
of base glazes categorized according to the predominant flux (.8 CaO, .6
CaO, .5 MgO, etc.) The alumina and silica are varied in each one. So, put
all together, the resulting tiles are a fantastic reference tool.

Though the book is written for stoneware temperatures, there is a section
on developing your own experiments. Also, Currie's recent article in
Ceramics Technical #4 explains a recipe based approach which may help at
lower temperatures. Mr. Currie will be participating at NCECA this year and
will be doing some workshops around country.

Hope this helps.

Ruth Ballou
rballou@mnsinc.com

Terri Storer on wed 17 dec 97

Hi!
I have Hopper's Ceramic Spectrum, and have really enjoyed it. It has
been an excellent reference for learning about glaze composition without
getting to technical. I also have Lana Wilson's book. It has alot of
cone 6 recipies. I have tested many of them and currently use one. It
has become a favorite of mine. Lana also has alot of cone 06 recipies.
One book not mentioned on your list is Emmanuel Cooper's 'Electric Kiln
Ceramics'. It is also one of my favorite books. It has alot of recipies
contributed from noteworthy potters, mostly high fire.
Best Regards!
Terri Storer

pedresel@3-cities.com wrote:

> ----------------------------Original
> message----------------------------
> I was pouring over the Potter Shop sale catalogue and realized that I
> was
> going to have to restrain myself. So maybe people could give me some
> suggestions on books. I have been working on getting some ^6
> oxidation
> glazes that work for me and am planning on delving into ^03 at some
> point.
> I feel like there is still more to learn from reading as well as from
> the
> labour part. I have Rhodes Clay and Glazes for the Potter, Zakin
> Electric
> Kiln Ceramics, Chappell, Hammer & Hammer, Rogers Ash Glazes as my
> main
> books for glaze inspiration. I feel comfortable with the concepts of
> glaze
> calculation but find my books have little or no information on limit
> formulas and other keys to what the formulas actually tell you.
>
> So does anyone have recommendations for additions to my library? I am
>
> considering Hopper Ceramic Spectrum, Currie Stoneware Glazes, and
> would
> consider Parmelee if it's really worth having in spite of being so
> spendy.
> Also thinking about Lana Wilson Ceramics: Shape and Surface.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Evan in Eastern Washington USA who snagged a bowl with a really
> interesting
> oil-spot temmoku at the community college faculty sale. Kept trying
> to wipe
> the dust off though until I realized that the faint finger marks were
> residual from loading the kiln -talk about a finicky surface.

Autumn Downey on wed 17 dec 97

A really good explanation of glazes is Robert Fromme's handout (hope I have
the name right) in the class materials section of the Ceramics Web site
http://apple.sdsu.edu/ceramicsweb/ceramicsweb.html
A friend printed it out, and I copied it for my glazebook (not here to refer
to). I found the explanations about calculations quite straightforward and
there was additional info on how materials act in glazes that I don't recall
seeing anywhere else.

And it's free!! Or mostly free except for connect time, ink etc. (The
pricing/cost debate is sinking in, too).

Autumn Downey
downeya@internorth.com
Yellowknife, NWT, Canada

Ron Roy on wed 17 dec 97

Sounds like the next one should be Magic of Fire - which you can order from
the Insight home page at - http://digitalfire.com

>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>I was pouring over the Potter Shop sale catalogue and realized that I was
>going to have to restrain myself. So maybe people could give me some
>suggestions on books. I have been working on getting some ^6 oxidation
>glazes that work for me and am planning on delving into ^03 at some point.
>I feel like there is still more to learn from reading as well as from the
>labour part. I have Rhodes Clay and Glazes for the Potter, Zakin Electric
>Kiln Ceramics, Chappell, Hammer & Hammer, Rogers Ash Glazes as my main
>books for glaze inspiration. I feel comfortable with the concepts of glaze
>calculation but find my books have little or no information on limit
>formulas and other keys to what the formulas actually tell you.
>
>So does anyone have recommendations for additions to my library? I am
>considering Hopper Ceramic Spectrum, Currie Stoneware Glazes, and would
>consider Parmelee if it's really worth having in spite of being so spendy.
>Also thinking about Lana Wilson Ceramics: Shape and Surface.

Ron Roy
93 Pegasus Trail
Scarborough,Canada
M1G 3N8
Evenings, call 416 439 2621
Fax, 416 438 7849
Studio: 416-752-7862.
Email ronroy@astral.magic.ca
Home page http://digitalfire.com/education/people/ronroy.htm

Wooltree on thu 18 dec 97

have you looked in any magazines? Ceramics Monthly often has glaze recipes
with the articles---sometimes photos of pieces using the glaze formula listed.

good luck.
Martha in Massachusetts