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dipping and brushing.

updated sat 19 dec 09

 

Lee Love on thu 17 dec 09


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Maggie Furtak wro=
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te:

> I have a college buddy who worked for a potter for a while just doing
>glazing. =3DA0Apparently there were several of them with little jars of >c=
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mercial glaze and paintbrushes working 8 hour shifts painting away.
> =3DA0The lady was very persnickety that they not leave any brush lines on
>the pots. =3DA0My friend tried to point out that it would be much faster a=
nd
>easier to get an even base coat of glaze if they dipped instead of brushed=
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.
>=3DA0The lady wouldn't hear of it. =3DA0I'm assuming that's because she wa=
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to
> be able to sell her wares as "hand-painted." =3DA0(The bisqueware was
>slipcast.)

I don't understand the problem. I have never heard of hand
brushing or hand dipping being considered more or less hand done.
And if your friend was paid by the hour, what was it to him? He
wasn't the person in charge.

> To me this is the worst kind of toadying to the marketplace.

This would be hard to judge, unless you knew why the person wanted
the glaze applied the way she did.

The single biggest reason would be the thickness of the
application. I apply runny glazes with a brush to the bottom half
of my runny ash glaze. If I dipped the entire pot in this ash glaze,
you'd have to hammer it off of the kiln shelve.

--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

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land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue

Lis Allison on thu 17 dec 09


On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Maggie Furtak
wrote:
> > I have a college buddy who worked for a potter for a while just doing
> >glazing. Apparently there were several of them with little jars of
> > >commercial glaze and paintbrushes working 8 hour shifts painting
> > away. The lady was very persnickety that they not leave any brush
> > lines on the pots. My friend tried to point out that it would be
> > much faster and easier to get an even base coat of glaze if they
> > dipped instead of brushed. The lady wouldn't hear of it. I'm
> > assuming that's because she wanted to be able to sell her wares as
> > "hand-painted." (The bisqueware was slipcast.)

There actually could be a valid reason. The glazes made for hobby ceramics
are designed to be brushed on, and don't lend themselves to dipping. To be
used for dipping they would have to be thinned, and then the ware would
have to be dipped twice, with adequate drying time in between. Also, once
thinned, those glazes would settle out into a rock layer. Not really
practical.

Lis
--
Elisabeth Allison
Pine Ridge Studio
www.Pine-Ridge-Studio.blogspot.com

Des & Jan Howard on fri 18 dec 09


Lis
Around here the same commercial glazes are available in
three forms, brushing consistency, dipping consistency
& powdered. The brushing consistency has the same slop
weight as the dipping plus a lot of gum, actually very
similar to industrial glazes for spraying. Where I
worked in a sanitary wares factory yonks ago the glazes
for spraying had almost as much gum added as water.
Des

Lis Allison wrote:
> There actually could be a valid reason. The glazes made for hobby ceramic=
s
> are designed to be brushed on, and don't lend themselves to dipping. To b=
e
> used for dipping they would have to be thinned, and then the ware would
> have to be dipped twice, with adequate drying time in between. Also, once
> thinned, those glazes would settle out into a rock layer. Not really
> practical.

--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850

02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
-32.656072 149.840624

Lis Allison on fri 18 dec 09


On Thursday 17 December 2009, Des & Jan Howard wrote:
> Lis
> Around here the same commercial glazes are available in
> three forms, brushing consistency, dipping consistency
> & powdered.

That's nice!

Some of the hobby ceramics glazes come in two forms, too, one for dipping
and one for brushing, but many do not.

Lis
--
Elisabeth Allison
Pine Ridge Studio
www.Pine-Ridge-Studio.blogspot.com