Vince Pitelka on sun 30 aug 09
Paul Borian wrote:
"I think I will need to come up with a new one pretty soon. For a long time
i
have been using an old kitchen blender i bought at a thrift store and mixin=
g
300 gram batches with it. Sometimes it sits on the shelf for months with no
use but right now i am using it a lot and it is almost wrecked. The output
shaft is getting so hot that it sizzles when i splash water on it afterward
- plus it has that smell of burning electrical stuff so i keep one hand on
the chord to unplug if needed and i always have a bucket of water on hand.
So, i figure i have a few more batches left before i have to figure
something else out."
Paul -
I prefer the immersion blenders or "hand blenders" that you lower into a
container when using them. They work extremely well for mixing test-batche=
s
- we have several in a drawer in the glaze room at the Craft Center. I
think you can pick on up at Target or Walmart for about $25, and it should
last a long time.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka
Paul Borian on sun 30 aug 09
i think i will need to come up with a new one pretty soon. For a long time =
i
have been using an old kitchen blender i bought at a thrift store and mixin=
g
300 gram batches with it. Sometimes it sits on the shelf for months with no
use but right now i am using it a lot and it is almost wrecked. The output
shaft is getting so hot that it sizzles when i splash water on it afterward
- plus it has that smell of burning electrical stuff so i keep one hand on
the chord to unplug if needed and i always have a bucket of water on hand.
So, i figure i have a few more batches left before i have to figure
something else out.
the local thrift store doesn't have any blenders, plus even if i do find on=
e
locally there is no way of knowing if it will last more than a few batches.
300 g is a good size to start with because it fits inside a soy-yogurt
container and is enough to pour the inside of a mug and even dip the outsid=
e
of a small cup.
does anyone have a method they would like to share that is a little less of
a fire hazard than what i am doing?
thanks,
paul
Des & Jan Howard on mon 31 aug 09
Paul
We make test batches 100 gm lots, in 250 ml plastic
cups, add 100-120 ml water. Allow to sit a while. Stir
with long-handled brush, use same brush to gently move
through 200# screen. Just enough liquid to dip one or a
few test strips in. If there are any lumpy ingredients,
such as natural bone ash, oxides, etc, they are mulled
dry, in a small mortar & pestle, with teaspoon or so of
the main test batch. This quantity of test glaze is
sufficient for extensive blends & can do the inside of
a cup, (probably not a tankard). Pilot batches, like
the 300 gms you use, are run in a 1/2 gal jar mill for
1/2 hour.
Des
Paul Borian wrote:
> i think i will need to come up with a new one pretty soon. For a long tim=
e i
> have been using an old kitchen blender i bought at a thrift store and mix=
ing
> 300 gram batches with it. Sometimes it sits on the shelf for months with =
no
> use but right now i am using it a lot and it is almost wrecked.
> 300 g is a good size to start with because it fits inside a soy-yogurt
> container and is enough to pour the inside of a mug and even dip the outs=
ide
> of a small cup.
> does anyone have a method they would like to share that is a little less =
of
> a fire hazard than what i am doing?
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850
02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
-32.656072 149.840624
Ric Swenson on mon 31 aug 09
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> Date: Sun=3D2C 30 Aug 2009 22:19:00 -0400
> From: blanketcreek@GMAIL.COM
> Subject: What's your method for mixing glaze test batches?
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
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> i think i will need to come up with a new one pretty soon. For a long tim=
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> have been using an old kitchen blender i bought at a thrift store and mix=
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> 300 gram batches with it. Sometimes it sits on the shelf for months with =
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> use but right now i am using it a lot and it is almost wrecked. The outpu=
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> shaft is getting so hot that it sizzles when i splash water on it afterwa=
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> - plus it has that smell of burning electrical stuff so i keep one hand o=
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> the chord to unplug if needed and i always have a bucket of water on hand=
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> So=3D2C i figure i have a few more batches left before i have to figure
> something else out.
> the local thrift store doesn't have any blenders=3D2C plus even if i do f=
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> locally there is no way of knowing if it will last more than a few batche=
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> 300 g is a good size to start with because it fits inside a soy-yogurt
> container and is enough to pour the inside of a mug and even dip the outs=
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> of a small cup.
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> does anyone have a method they would like to share that is a little less =
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> a fire hazard than what i am doing?
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> paul
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Birgit Wright on mon 31 aug 09
Paul=3D3B In my other job as a proffesional baker=3D2C all ingredients are=
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> Date: Sun=3D2C 30 Aug 2009 22:19:00 -0400
> From: blanketcreek@GMAIL.COM
> Subject: What's your method for mixing glaze test batches?
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
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> i think i will need to come up with a new one pretty soon. For a long tim=
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e i
> have been using an old kitchen blender i bought at a thrift store and mix=
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ing
> 300 gram batches with it. Sometimes it sits on the shelf for months with =
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no
> use but right now i am using it a lot and it is almost wrecked. The outpu=
=3D
t
> shaft is getting so hot that it sizzles when i splash water on it afterwa=
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rd
> - plus it has that smell of burning electrical stuff so i keep one hand o=
=3D
n
> the chord to unplug if needed and i always have a bucket of water on hand=
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.
> So=3D2C i figure i have a few more batches left before i have to figure
> something else out.
> the local thrift store doesn't have any blenders=3D2C plus even if i do f=
in=3D
d one
> locally there is no way of knowing if it will last more than a few batche=
=3D
s.
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> 300 g is a good size to start with because it fits inside a soy-yogurt
> container and is enough to pour the inside of a mug and even dip the outs=
=3D
ide
> of a small cup.
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> does anyone have a method they would like to share that is a little less =
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of
> a fire hazard than what i am doing?
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> thanks=3D2C
> paul
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Steve Slatin on mon 31 aug 09
Ric --
It makes for an easy calculation, but isn't
it a little annoying to mix up two pounds of
test only to find it really isn't very good?
Steve Slatin --=3D20
Whose tests are often not very satisfying,
but who keeps trying ...
--- On Mon, 8/31/09, Ric Swenson wrote:
> From: Ric Swenson
> Subject: Re: What's your method for mixing glaze test batches?
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 2:22 AM
> just because of the math ...I have
> always used 1,000 grams as a test batch..... and 10,000
> grams as a -5 gallon pail batch.
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> JiangXi Province, P.R. of China.=3D20
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> > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:19:00 -0400
> > From: blanketcreek@GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: What's your method for mixing glaze test
> batches?
> > To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >=3D20
> > i think i will need to come up with a new one pretty
> soon. For a long time i
> > have been using an old kitchen blender i bought at a
> thrift store and mixing
> > 300 gram batches with it. Sometimes it sits on the
> shelf for months with no
> > use but right now i am using it a lot and it is almost
> wrecked. The output
> > shaft is getting so hot that it sizzles when i splash
> water on it afterward
> > - plus it has that smell of burning electrical stuff
> so i keep one hand on
> > the chord to unplug if needed and i always have a
> bucket of water on hand.
> > So, i figure i have a few more batches left before i
> have to figure
> > something else out.
> > the local thrift store doesn't have any blenders, plus
> even if i do find one
> > locally there is no way of knowing if it will last
> more than a few batches.
> >=3D20
> > 300 g is a good size to start with because it fits
> inside a soy-yogurt
> > container and is enough to pour the inside of a mug
> and even dip the outside
> > of a small cup.
> >=3D20
> > does anyone have a method they would like to share
> that is a little less of
> > a fire hazard than what i am doing?
> >=3D20
> > thanks,
> > paul
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Paul Miller on tue 1 sep 09
Hi Paul,
At The 21st Century Glaze Project we use a "stick blender" to mix 300g te=
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batches. For a glaze test, I like 300g better than the traditional 100g.=
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somewhat more accurate (especially for when you are measuring 1/10 or 1/0=
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gram units) and allow you to dip a larger test tile. I have been using a=
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stick blender for two years now with no problems.
You will have to give up your yogurt containers and use a container with =
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wider base. I use plastic 1 pint deli containers that we buy for about 1=
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each. Get friendly with your local corn beef vendor and you may even get=
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them for free. These containers have a few advantages. They are easier=
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label and a small 80 mesh sieve fits them very well.
I hope this is helpful.
all the best... Paul
Paul Miller
The 21st Century Glaze Project
www.glaze21.org
pmiller@glaze21.org
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