Tony Ferguson on sun 28 sep 08
I just realized that tiny url or any url for that matter does not transfer over to the archives. This means those of you who do tiny url or what I tell how to do below, will just appear as text (not the web address) in the archives.
It's not perfect, but paste the whole thing when you want people to be able to see something. If you use tiny url or my suggestion, you won't be able to follow the link because it will be stripped.
Tony Ferguson
_________________________________________________________
And hears how you make your own short version of any link:
1. paste your link such as:
http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=mp
2. type it out shorter such as: Utube
3. Now select it (depending on your program you will have to find where it allows you to make a hyperlink) and paste the link info from (1) into the field and it should look like this:
Utube
4. When this makes it to the archives, it will be stripped and there will be no link.
Tony Ferguson
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
John Post on sun 28 sep 08
Tony if the word Utube was supposed to be clickable, it didn't come
through clayart that way. The only way that I have seen links come
across as clickable is when http://www. is part of the link.
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
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> 3. Now select it (depending on your program you will have to find
> where it allows you to make a hyperlink) and paste the link info
> from (1) into the field and it should look like this:
>
> Utube
>
Lee Love on sun 28 sep 08
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Tony Ferguson wrote:
> It's not perfect, but paste the whole thing when you want people to be able
> to see something. If you use tiny url or my suggestion, you won't be >able\to follow the link because it will be stripped.
>
THis is incorrect. Tinyurl does show up in the archives. That is
why it is better than making your own html link. Tiny is just like
any other http address, it is not html. The archives seem to be
down, but here is an example of tiny showing up, from google cached:
http://tinyurl.com/tiny-on-clayart
--
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http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Lee Love on sun 28 sep 08
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:18 AM, John Post wrote:
> Tony if the word Utube was supposed to be clickable, it didn't come
> through clayart that way. The only way that I have seen links come
> across as clickable is when http://www. is part of the link.
>\
I believe tinyurls expire. It may be good to list the long one even
if it becomes broken, along with the tinyurl.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Tony Ferguson on sun 28 sep 08
Lee, I went to the archives which were not down and nothing is hyperlinked?
There is not a thing I could click on anywhere that would take me out of the archives based on what anyone posted?
Please post a link to the archives that has a tiny url in it when the archives are not down.
Tony
Lee Love wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Tony Ferguson wrote:
> It's not perfect, but paste the whole thing when you want people to be able
> to see something. If you use tiny url or my suggestion, you won't be >able\to follow the link because it will be stripped.
>
THis is incorrect. Tinyurl does show up in the archives. That is
why it is better than making your own html link. Tiny is just like
any other http address, it is not html. The archives seem to be
down, but here is an example of tiny showing up, from google cached:
http://tinyurl.com/tiny-on-clayart
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Lee Love on sun 28 sep 08
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Tony Ferguson wrote:
> Please post a link to the archives that has a tiny url in it when the >archives are not down.
I did Tony. I found one in the Google cache and posted it.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Tony Ferguson on sun 28 sep 08
Lee,
John validates what I said and demonstrated with trying to make a hyperlink that would be active in the archives. And not only do tiny urls expire, they don't work in the archives. It is pointless to use them both. It is better, as I said earlier, to post the entire link. If you want anyone to be able to cut and paste the full url from the archives and find what you or anyone is referring too, use the full url, as nothing, even a full url in the archives, is hypertext.
Tony
Lee Love wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:18 AM, John Post wrote:
> Tony if the word Utube was supposed to be clickable, it didn't come
> through clayart that way. The only way that I have seen links come
> across as clickable is when http://www. is part of the link.
>\
I believe tinyurls expire. It may be good to list the long one even
if it becomes broken, along with the tinyurl.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Lee Love on sun 28 sep 08
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Tony Ferguson wrote:
> It is better, as I said earlier, to post the entire link. If you want >anyone to be able to cut and paste the full url from the archives and find >what you or anyone is referring too, use the full url, as nothing, even a >full url in the archives, is hypertext.
Tony,
They do show up. I sent an archived post to the list that contains one.
But folks completely miss why people use tinyurl here. It is
because many long links are brokenup and won't work unless you cut and
paste the sections.
Forget making an html link. But use the tinyurl to keep links
from being broken and then include the original too.
Like this:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:eB-JjeqStIsJ:lsv.ceramics.org/scripts/wa.exe%3FA2%3Dind0504B%26L%3DCLAYART%26P%3D60627+clayart+tinyurl&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
and the tiny version (with preview):
http://preview.tinyurl.com/noo-brainer
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Des & Jan Howard on mon 29 sep 08
Tony
I just spent a few moments swanning around the Clayart archives.
I went as far back as the archives would allow. All the links I tried
are valid & working. The 'tinyurl' links of this current thread are also
working.
Must be the way you hold your mouth?
Des
Tony Ferguson wrote:
> Lee, I went to the archives which were not down and nothing is hyperlinked?
>
> There is not a thing I could click on anywhere that would take me out of the archives based on what anyone posted?
>
> Please post a link to the archives that has a tiny url in it when the archives are not down.
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850
02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
Tony Ferguson on mon 29 sep 08
The way I hold my mouth? Very nice.
I check and nothing was working--thus why I said what I said. Anyone know of a solution other than how I hold my mouth?
Tony Ferguson
Des & Jan Howard wrote: Tony
I just spent a few moments swanning around the Clayart archives.
I went as far back as the archives would allow. All the links I tried
are valid & working. The 'tinyurl' links of this current thread are also
working.
Must be the way you hold your mouth?
Des
Tony Ferguson wrote:
> Lee, I went to the archives which were not down and nothing is hyperlinked?
>
> There is not a thing I could click on anywhere that would take me out of the archives based on what anyone posted?
>
> Please post a link to the archives that has a tiny url in it when the archives are not down.
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850
02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Tony Ferguson on mon 29 sep 08
Lee, I totally get the reason behind using tiny url. But if they don't work in the archives, why use them at all? Apparently they don't work for me but seem to work for 2 people on this list so far. I need to find a solution to this--maybe its a setting in my browser.
Tony Ferguson
Lee Love wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Tony Ferguson wrote:
> It is better, as I said earlier, to post the entire link. If you want >anyone to be able to cut and paste the full url from the archives and find >what you or anyone is referring too, use the full url, as nothing, even a >full url in the archives, is hypertext.
Tony,
They do show up. I sent an archived post to the list that contains one.
But folks completely miss why people use tinyurl here. It is
because many long links are brokenup and won't work unless you cut and
paste the sections.
Forget making an html link. But use the tinyurl to keep links
from being broken and then include the original too.
Like this:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:eB-JjeqStIsJ:lsv.ceramics.org/scripts/wa.exe%3FA2%3Dind0504B%26L%3DCLAYART%26P%3D60627+clayart+tinyurl&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
and the tiny version (with preview):
http://preview.tinyurl.com/noo-brainer
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Tony Ferguson on mon 29 sep 08
Lee, I meant one from the archives. So anyone whose interested could check it too to see if I am crazy.
Tony
Lee Love wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Tony Ferguson wrote:
> Please post a link to the archives that has a tiny url in it when the >archives are not down.
I did Tony. I found one in the Google cache and posted it.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Tony Ferguson on mon 29 sep 08
http://www.potters.org/subject107904.htm
Lee, here is a link to the clayart archives with tinyurl's in them from our discussion. I can see everything but I can not click on them (not an active hyper link) where they would take me to the site. I have to cut and paste them into my browser to get them to work.
Are you telling me they are active via your browser? I am using Mozilla Firefox new version.
Tony
Lee Love wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Tony Ferguson wrote:
> It is better, as I said earlier, to post the entire link. If you want >anyone to be able to cut and paste the full url from the archives and find >what you or anyone is referring too, use the full url, as nothing, even a >full url in the archives, is hypertext.
Tony,
They do show up. I sent an archived post to the list that contains one.
But folks completely miss why people use tinyurl here. It is
because many long links are brokenup and won't work unless you cut and
paste the sections.
Forget making an html link. But use the tinyurl to keep links
from being broken and then include the original too.
Like this:
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:eB-JjeqStIsJ:lsv.ceramics.org/scripts/wa.exe%3FA2%3Dind0504B%26L%3DCLAYART%26P%3D60627+clayart+tinyurl&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
and the tiny version (with preview):
http://preview.tinyurl.com/noo-brainer
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Doug Trott on mon 29 sep 08
When reading the occasional non-sequitor one must assume typos or spell-che=
ck "corrections."
I'm sure "mouse" was intended. Though I think it's unlikely that you're ho=
lding it wrong. Perhaps you're clicking too hard?!
Doug
> Date: Mon=2C 29 Sep 2008 05:56:37 -0700
> From: fergyart@YAHOO.COM
> Subject: Re: Why not to use TinyUrl or hypertext with Clayart
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>=20
> The way I hold my mouth? Very nice.
>=20
> I check and nothing was working--thus why I said what I said. Anyone kno=
w of a solution other than how I hold my mouth?
>=20
> Tony Ferguson
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Joan Klotz on mon 29 sep 08
Tony it was a joke - watch Casablanca.
Joan Klotz,
Venice, CA
At 05:56 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote:
>The way I hold my mouth? Very nice.
>
>I check and nothing was working--thus why I said what I
>said. Anyone know of a solution other than how I hold my mouth?
Tony Ferguson on mon 29 sep 08
Des,
Maybe I am just in the twilight zone. This is really strange.
Tony Ferguson
Des & Jan Howard wrote: Tony
Using my Firefox 3.0.3 I followed your link into the archives,
everything is dead, dead, dead.
I came back out, used my bookmark into the archives & your link & all
others new or old in the archives are live. I also tried a Tinyurl from
May 2006, it was live. Go figure! Mayhap you're a linkicide :)
Des
Tony Ferguson wrote:
> http://www.potters.org/subject107904.htm
>
> Lee, here is a link to the clayart archives with tinyurl's in them from our discussion. I can see everything but I can not click on them (not an active hyper link) where they would take me to the site. I have to cut and paste them into my browser to get them to work.
>
> Are you telling me they are active via your browser? I am using Mozilla Firefox new version.
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850
02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
Take Care,
Tony Ferguson
Artist...Clay, Web, Photo, Video
...where the sky meets the lake...
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Marian on mon 29 sep 08
Tinyurls only expire if they're not clicked on at least once a year.
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Lee Love wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I believe tinyurls expire. It may be good to list the long one even
> if it becomes broken, along with the tinyurl.
> --
>
Des & Jan Howard on tue 30 sep 08
Tony
Using my Firefox 3.0.3 I followed your link into the archives,
everything is dead, dead, dead.
I came back out, used my bookmark into the archives & your link & all
others new or old in the archives are live. I also tried a Tinyurl from
May 2006, it was live. Go figure! Mayhap you're a linkicide :)
Des
Tony Ferguson wrote:
> http://www.potters.org/subject107904.htm
>
> Lee, here is a link to the clayart archives with tinyurl's in them from our discussion. I can see everything but I can not click on them (not an active hyper link) where they would take me to the site. I have to cut and paste them into my browser to get them to work.
>
> Are you telling me they are active via your browser? I am using Mozilla Firefox new version.
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850
02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
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