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tony & kim lead,watercooler & fatherhood

updated sun 20 jul 08

 

Wyndham Dennison on thu 17 jul 08


Kim, I realize fatherhood is more than conception but if you have ever
seen the OSHA approved cartoon of a cowboy on a horse with safety
railings and backup alarms, safety cables, etc, I felt the old joke told
the story as well as any, no offense intended. BTW I'm adopted into the
tribe of Abraham, by my faith in Christ. Many Jewish folks look at me
strangely when I speak of it and just shake there heads, they must
think "This boys not right in the head", but that's alright.
Tony & Kim about the water cooler, George Orh from Mississippi made a
saltwater to fresh earthenware filter jug that had 2 spouts and a slab
of clay between creating two chambers. Salt(brackish, part fresh/part
salt) water was poured into one side and filtered clean drinkable water
to the other. In the late 1800's in the coastal Mississippi area where
the surface water still carried disease, this was sorta high tech at the
time. At the coast you can dig down at the shore line and find a layer
of Brackish water that floats on the salt water.George knew of this and
likely learned for the native people of the area.
George Ohr was an interesting fellow didn't color inside the lines too
much. If we take life too seriously and it will make you crazy(leadfree)

Later Wyndham
Reposting because Joyce said 30 submissions did not make it in, thanks
for the heads up Wyndham

Lee Love on thu 17 jul 08


On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Wyndham Dennison
wrote:
> Kim, I realize fatherhood is more than conception but if you have ever
> seen the OSHA approved cartoon of a cowboy on a horse with safety
> railings and backup alarms, safety cables, etc, I felt the old joke told
> the story as well as any, no offense intended.

Being a lefty, I am exposed to the hazards of using power equipment
with safety equipment put on it for the right hand world. These
"safety" features, often make the equipment more dangerous for left
handers.

In Japan, the power equipment usually does not have these
features, so the equipment is much safer for us Lefties.

--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/

"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi

Kim Hohlmayer on fri 18 jul 08


Dear Wyndham,
Amen. --Kim H.


--- On Thu, 7/17/08, Wyndham Dennison wrote:

> From: Wyndham Dennison
> Subject: Tony & Kim Lead,watercooler & fatherhood
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 10:15 AM
> Kim, I realize fatherhood is more than conception but if you
> have ever
> seen the OSHA approved cartoon of a cowboy on a horse with
> safety
> railings and backup alarms, safety cables, etc, I felt the
> old joke told
> the story as well as any, no offense intended. BTW I'm
> adopted into the
> tribe of Abraham, by my faith in Christ. Many Jewish
> folks look at me
> strangely when I speak of it and just shake there heads,
> they must
> think "This boys not right in the head", but
> that's alright.
> Tony & Kim about the water cooler, George Orh from
> Mississippi made a
> saltwater to fresh earthenware filter jug that had 2 spouts
> and a slab
> of clay between creating two chambers. Salt(brackish, part
> fresh/part
> salt) water was poured into one side and filtered clean
> drinkable water
> to the other. In the late 1800's in the coastal
> Mississippi area where
> the surface water still carried disease, this was sorta
> high tech at the
> time. At the coast you can dig down at the shore line and
> find a layer
> of Brackish water that floats on the salt water.George knew
> of this and
> likely learned for the native people of the area.
> George Ohr was an interesting fellow didn't color
> inside the lines too
> much. If we take life too seriously and it will make you
> crazy(leadfree)
>
> Later Wyndham
> Reposting because Joyce said 30 submissions did not make it
> in, thanks
> for the heads up Wyndham

Kim Hohlmayer on fri 18 jul 08


Dear Lee,
This reminds me of a run in with OSHA my husband had in the 1970's. When the inspector came to check out the shop of the big heating contractor my husband worked for they said that the garage door drive chain some 12 to 18 feet over head had to be covered so no one would get caught in it. My husband with perfect logic pointed out that at that height someone could only get caught if there were and explosion in which case that chain would be the least of everyones problems. The inspector was not amused and the company had to cover the chain. There were also pieces of power equipment that would not operate with the safety guards in place. When OSHA showed up the front office called back to the shop and the equipment was shut down and the safety parts jput on.
Now, don't write me back anyone and tell me the saintliness and great life-saving value of OSHA. That is not the point I am making. Nor am I trying to restart the glaze safety issue. I am just pointing out that as humans we cna once again take anything to extremes. I worked for my dad in the printing business from age 13 to age 18. I set lead type by hand and ran a hand-fed platten press. I was never lead poisoned nor did I ever get my hands or parts there of squashed in the process of putting in then removing each piece of paper or envelope I printed from the bone-crushing maw of the press. The only safety device on the press was my common sense, my pride in doing both a good and safe job and the fact that my dad would have blown a gasket if I did something unsafe (in his view "dumb" can be substituted for "unsafe".)
At this point I have no real point except that the best safety device is good sense combined with good information. When we OSHA and all the other safety groups can install that in people no one can insure safety for all. So laugh at my stories and don't tell me how evil I am because I catch a laugh where I can. --Kim H. PS: No offense taken.:^) K.H.


--- On Thu, 7/17/08, Lee Love wrote:

> From: Lee Love
> Subject: Re: Tony & Kim Lead,watercooler & fatherhood
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 12:07 PM
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Wyndham Dennison
> wrote:
> > Kim, I realize fatherhood is more than conception but
> if you have ever
> > seen the OSHA approved cartoon of a cowboy on a horse
> with safety
> > railings and backup alarms, safety cables, etc, I felt
> the old joke told
> > the story as well as any, no offense intended.
>
> Being a lefty, I am exposed to the hazards of using power
> equipment
> with safety equipment put on it for the right hand world.
> These
> "safety" features, often make the equipment more
> dangerous for left
> handers.
>
> In Japan, the power equipment usually does not have
> these
> features, so the equipment is much safer for us Lefties.
>
> --
> Lee Love in Minneapolis
> http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
> http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
>
> "Let the beauty we love be what we do.
> There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the
> ground." --Rumi

Joseph Herbert on sat 19 jul 08


Kim wrote: I was never lead poisoned nor did I ever get my hands or parts
there of squashed in the process..

I understand you can verify the second part yourself. The first is verified
by your yearly blood tests as a teenager? I think the best you can really
say, in the absence of the tests, is you displayed no symptoms that you
recognized.

I stood beside a person in 7th grade shop who printed, well, mashed, a 24
pt. Fraktur B into his thumb. It was a hand-operated platen press and he
was pulling the handle. Afterward, it seemed clear he should have had both
hands on the handle. I am glad you were able to perform well enough to keep
your body parts.

Some discussions about machine guarding and industrial safety have a "Blame
the victim" sort of elitist sound. "Only an idiot gets caught by a power
takeoff shaft," or "Common sense is adequate for safety". People never
intend to injure themselves at work. Fathers that run farms do not intend
for their eleven-year-old's arm to be ripped off when he is "helping" around
the place. If people are exposed to a situation of some hazard, the
likelihood of injury increases with exposure, regardless of their personal
make-up or intention. The most common means of industrial death is
vehicles. That is a function of exposure. Working people spend millions of
hours driving.

Or perhaps I have some symptoms of heavy metal poisoning, those cognitive
problems so difficult to identify...

Joe


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