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can glazes other than shino carbon trap

updated thu 10 jul 08

 

Russel Fouts on sun 6 jul 08


I bought a lovely white glazed teabowl the other day from French
potter Herve Rousseau. One side of it and the entire rim on the
inside is a lovely kind of 'pussy willow' grey. Sorry if that sounds
a bit 'cutesy' but it's really the best way to describe the soft grey color.

He said that it was right at the front of his wood kiln and after he
finished his firing and closed up the kiln, the embers continued to
smoke it. That would mean that the carbon got trapped in the glaze on
the way down.

Wish I'd got more information from him but it was at the Potters'
fair in Paris at St Sulpice and there were other people in the booth
so I didn't want to take up too much of his time.

I guess other glazes can trap carbon, I've seen it on Alain
Caiger-Smith's wood fired, tin glazed lustre ware and on wood fired
slip ware. The effect is different on the two but I love both very much.

Is it the same as with a shino? We only hear people getting excited
about it in shinos.

Russel



Russel Fouts
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"Look, it's my misery that I have to paint this kind of painting,
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misery is thirteen hundred and fifty dollars. "

- Mark Rothko, In Art/Painting

Veena Raghavan on sun 6 jul 08


Hi Russel,

John Britt's book has a celadon call Ice Trap Celadon that traps carbon in a
reduction kiln, if the atmosphere is right.

Hope you are having a good summer.

Veena


In a message dated 7/6/2008 1:23:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Russel.Fouts@SKYNET.BE writes:
> I guess other glazes can trap carbon, I've seen it on Alain
> Caiger-Smith's wood fired, tin glazed lustre ware and on wood fired
> slip ware. The effect is different on the two but I love both very much.
>
> Is it the same as with a shino? We only hear people getting excited
> about it in shinos.
>
> Russel

VeenaRaghavan@cs.com

Eva Gallagher on wed 9 jul 08


Hi - this is not quite the same but I repaired a bisque piece with sodim
silicate/bisque dust and then when glazed with a blue cleladon, I got dark
grey spots where the repair was done - obviously carbon trapped. What a mess
it was - as the rest of the glaze was perfect. However perhaps that could be
used as a decorating technique - paint a design with sodium silicate and
then glaze.
Eva Gallagher
Deep River Potters Guild

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Fouts"
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Can Glazes Other Than Shino Carbon Trap


>I bought a lovely white glazed teabowl the other day from French
> potter Herve Rousseau. One side of it and the entire rim on the
> inside is a lovely kind of 'pussy willow' grey. Sorry if that sounds
> a bit 'cutesy' but it's really the best way to describe the soft grey
> color.
>
> He said that it was right at the front of his wood kiln and after he
> finished his firing and closed up the kiln, the embers continued to
> smoke it. That would mean that the carbon got trapped in the glaze on
> the way down.
>
> Wish I'd got more information from him but it was at the Potters'
> fair in Paris at St Sulpice and there were other people in the booth
> so I didn't want to take up too much of his time.
>
> I guess other glazes can trap carbon, I've seen it on Alain
> Caiger-Smith's wood fired, tin glazed lustre ware and on wood fired
> slip ware. The effect is different on the two but I love both very much.
>
> Is it the same as with a shino? We only hear people getting excited
> about it in shinos.
>
> Russel
>
>
>
> Russel Fouts
> Mes Potes & Mes Pots
> Brussels, Belgium
> Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
> Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
>
> Http://www.mypots.com
> Home of "The Potters Portal"
> Over 3000 Pottery Related Links!
> Updated frequently
>
>
> "Look, it's my misery that I have to paint this kind of painting,
> it's your misery that you have to love it, and the price of the
> misery is thirteen hundred and fifty dollars. "
>
> - Mark Rothko, In Art/Painting
>
>

Veena Raghavan on wed 9 jul 08


The same thing happened to me, when I repaired with B-mix, sodium silicate,
and paper pulp on porcelain. I have done repairs before with porcelain
paperclay on porcelain and have not had this happen. I thought it might be the
difference in clays. All these were with celadons in reduction.

Veena



In a message dated 7/9/2008 5:48:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, galla@MAGMA.CA
writes:
>
>
> Hi - this is not quite the same but I repaired a bisque piece with sodim
> silicate/bisque dust and then when glazed with a blue cleladon, I got dark
> grey spots where the repair was done - obviously carbon trapped. What a mess
> it was

VeenaRaghavan@cs.com