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korean kick wheels

updated thu 5 jun 08

 

Taylor Hendrix on mon 2 jun 08


Hey my peeps:

I've got a request. For well over a year now I have been trying to
find online pictures of korean kick wheels. I have tried every type of
search I know, but I can only find two pics. I'm really wanting to see
how they are put together, bearings, joins, etc and neither of the two
pics really help much. I'd really love to see one, touch one, feel one
but I don't think there are many of them down here in the Coastal
Bend, so...a little help?

--
Taylor, in Rockport TX
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http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
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Lee Love on mon 2 jun 08


http://www.geocities.jp/yo_kasite/kerokuro.html

http://touri.sakura.ne.jp/sblo_files/touri/image/my-kerokuro.jpg

Taylor, I hope to ship mine back in august. You can see them at
Randy Johsnton adn Willem Gebben's studios.

Mine has modern sealed bearings with grease fittings. The top one
goes on the end of the shaft, under the massive wheelhead. The
bottom one has the shaft going through it and the bottom of the kick
plate rests on it.

Pretty simple. Old ones have porcelain cup and cone bearings.

--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/

"We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is
rounded with a sleep." --PROSPERO Tempest Shakespeare

Overall's on tue 3 jun 08


Taylor!

If you make a Korean kick wheel I will be
so darn jealous!!!!! I've been wanting one for
years.

If anyone knows of how to obtain one from Korea,
let me know please.

Kim in Houston

Taylor Hendrix wrote:
Hey my peeps:

I've got a request. For well over a year now I have been trying to
find online pictures of korean kick wheels. I have tried every type of
search I know, but I can only find two pics. I'm really wanting to see
how they are put together, bearings, joins, etc and neither of the two
pics really help much. I'd really love to see one, touch one, feel one
but I don't think there are many of them down here in the Coastal
Bend, so...a little help?

Lee Love on tue 3 jun 08


On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Mike wrote:

> porcelain. Spins more freely than the modern bearing type.
>
>
I suppose we could test them. I doubt your wheel spins
more freely than mine. ;^)

Have you ever heard about any taboo amongst Japanese potters
when leaving a wheel to spin by itself? I had both shokunin stop my
spinning wheel, when I left it spinning and walked away.

--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/

"We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is
rounded with a sleep." --PROSPERO Tempest Shakespeare

Duff bogen on tue 3 jun 08


Taylor
Here's a mantal picture as I remember one a friend had
(all made from a dense hardwood -{often called Japanese "oak" but it dosen't warp like oak which is really the wrong wood for wheels} if you had a source for honey locust heartwood it wood be about right)
Wheelhead diameter about 14" and 4-5" thick
Flywheel about the same diameter and 8" thick- the top is beveled not quite 30 degrees so your foot meets the surface flat.
Between these two were four square bars about 11/4" on a side- I assume mortise and tennon-ed together.
The height is "made to fit"
The bottom 8-10" of thte bars were wrapped in cord so that you couldn't stick a foot between them and bust it.
The hardware was a steel pipe about 1"IPS the top of which had been reduced down to hold a 1/4" shaft on which sat a small ball bearing race. At the bottom it had a base plate about 4" square with some angle braces between the shaft and base. The instructions passed along implied that you would put four anchor bolts in a concrete floor to match the holes in the base plate.
I didn't get to look under the wheel to see the seat for the top bearing or the bottom bearing
(which is probably what you most want to know). All I can say to that is I think your bearing system you did on your banding wheel could work.
DRB
Seattle

Taylor Hendrix wrote:
Hey my peeps:

I've got a request. For well over a year now I have been trying to
find online pictures of korean kick wheels. I have tried every type of
search I know, but I can only find two pics. I'm really wanting to see
how they are put together, bearings, joins, etc and neither of the two
pics really help much. I'd really love to see one, touch one, feel one
but I don't think there are many of them down here in the Coastal
Bend, so...a little help?

--
Taylor, in Rockport TX
http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/

Mike on tue 3 jun 08


Taylor,
Dude, you should have just mailed me about it. I'll take all the pics
you need to build a traditional kickwheel if that is your wont. Mine
uses the old cone and receiver method with tempered steel instead of
porcelain. Spins more freely than the modern bearing type.

Very easy to make, the most difficult part is calculating the height of
the wheelhead and the distance to the flywheel. But you can build it to
suit you perfectly.

Mail me off list and I'll get the info you need,

Mike

Mike
in Taku, Japan

www.karatsupots.com
karatsupots.etsy.com
karatsupots.blogspot.com
blogs.yahoo.co.jp/karatsupots



Taylor Hendrix *'"は>きま-Y:
> Hey my peeps:
>
> I've got a request. For well over a year now I have been trying to
> find online pictures of korean kick wheels. I have tried every type of
> search I know, but I can only find two pics. I'm really wanting to see
> how they are put together, bearings, joins, etc and neither of the two
> pics really help much. I'd really love to see one, touch one, feel one
> but I don't think there are many of them down here in the Coastal
> Bend, so...a little help?
>
> --
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
> http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
> http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/
>
>

John Rodgers on tue 3 jun 08


Lee,

Wouldn't that be a simple matter of safety - like don't leave the lawn
mower running or the table saw running, etc?

John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL

Lee Love wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Mike wrote:
>
>
>> porcelain. Spins more freely than the modern bearing type.
>>
>>
>>
> I suppose we could test them. I doubt your wheel spins
> more freely than mine. ;^)
>
> Have you ever heard about any taboo amongst Japanese potters
> when leaving a wheel to spin by itself? I had both shokunin stop my
> spinning wheel, when I left it spinning and walked away.
>
> --
> Lee Love in Minneapolis
> http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
> http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
>
> "We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is
> rounded with a sleep." --PROSPERO Tempest Shakespeare
>
>
>

Lee Love on wed 4 jun 08


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:10 PM, John Rodgers wrote:
> Lee,
>
> Wouldn't that be a simple matter of safety - like don't leave the lawn
> mower running or the table saw running, etc?

I don't think so. They are so slow momentum, that they are
unlikely to cause anything any harm.

Here is another unusual thing: We never through worn-out
gloves out. We kept them until we made a fire for some reason, and
"offered them" to the fire.

Another one: old sewing needles are taken to a temple where
they are put in a block of tofu for disposal. Old tools do not
become trash when they are worn out.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/

"We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is
rounded with a sleep." --PROSPERO Tempest Shakespeare

Lee Love on wed 4 jun 08


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Overall's wrote:

>
> If anyone knows of how to obtain one from Korea,
> let me know please.

Korean potters who were up north, at the international wood fire
conference in Kanayama http://www.makigama.org/en/index-swf.html ,
were helping folks import genuine Korean wheels from Korea. They were
relatively affordable (about the price I paid for my modified Mashiko
wheel.)

You might ask Lee M. ee@LeeMiddleman.com Tony C or John Baymore
if they have any contact info. Lee is listed as the USA contact.

Ryoji Matsumiya runs Tsugaru Kanayama Pottery.


--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/

"We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is
rounded with a sleep." --PROSPERO Tempest Shakespeare