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cost of electric in nyc

updated sat 19 apr 08

 

Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 16 apr 08


For what it's worth:

Yes folks, we really do pay that much here in New York. You guys freak me
out with your .09 cents a kw. As per my wonderful landlord:

"the rate we are paying is "EL9" which is "General Large Commercial" rate.
we pay "Energy Supply" + "Energy Demand" + "Energy Delivery" + "Demand
Delivery" + "Surcharges" + "Taxes"

Note that residential electric costs less per kw than commercial. I pay 16
cents per kw in my home, and 38 in my studio, which is in a commercial
building. On top of that, with commercial electric you get what's called
"demand", which is basically an charge if you go over the estimated usage.
Because my building is quite large, my rate has been negotiated flat,
meaning no surcharge for demand, and no discount for off-peak hours. Ah -
the luxury to fire when it's convenient for me!

I read my studio meter on a regular, almost daily, basis, just to make sure
I haven't misread it. That's very easy to do as the dials all spin in
different directions. I wholeheartedly thank Lynn for instilling my key
sense of meter-reading. I am pretty obsessed with it.

**********
Lois Aronow Porcelain

Brooklyn, NY


www.loisaronow.com


Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 17 apr 08


I do get accurate meter readings. I have my own meter, and I read it
myself.

As for paper from the electric company: I am in a commercial space - a
converted factory that houses 200 artists. The bill goes to the building,
not to the tenants. We all pay the same price for electric. Frankly, my
landlord is fantastic, and the building is a curated artist community. The
rent is far below market value, so I have no desire to break his chops about
what might amount to a few dollars per month. I thank my lucky stars wevery
day for my space.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> John Rodgers
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:22 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Cost of electric in NYC
>
> I still think having a meter readout and paper printout for
> an entire firing cycle is in order. It would be the
> definitive statement on consumption.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
> Chelsea, AL
>
> Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> > For what it's worth:
> >
> > Yes folks, we really do pay that much here in New York. You guys
> > freak me out with your .09 cents a kw. As per my wonderful
> landlord:
> >
> > "the rate we are paying is "EL9" which is "General Large
> Commercial" rate.
> > we pay "Energy Supply" + "Energy Demand" + "Energy
> Delivery" + "Demand
> > Delivery" + "Surcharges" + "Taxes"
> >
> > Note that residential electric costs less per kw than
> commercial. I
> > pay 16 cents per kw in my home, and 38 in my studio, which is in a
> > commercial building. On top of that, with commercial
> electric you get
> > what's called "demand", which is basically an charge if you
> go over the estimated usage.
> > Because my building is quite large, my rate has been
> negotiated flat,
> > meaning no surcharge for demand, and no discount for
> off-peak hours.
> > Ah - the luxury to fire when it's convenient for me!
> >
> > I read my studio meter on a regular, almost daily, basis,
> just to make
> > sure I haven't misread it. That's very easy to do as the dials all
> > spin in different directions. I wholeheartedly thank Lynn for
> > instilling my key sense of meter-reading. I am pretty
> obsessed with it.
> >
> > **********
> > Lois Aronow Porcelain
> >
> > Brooklyn, NY
> >
> >
> > www.loisaronow.com
> >
> >
> >
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John Rodgers on thu 17 apr 08


I still think having a meter readout and paper printout for an entire
firing cycle is in order. It would be the definitive statement on
consumption.

Regards,

John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL

Lois Ruben Aronow wrote:
> For what it's worth:
>
> Yes folks, we really do pay that much here in New York. You guys freak me
> out with your .09 cents a kw. As per my wonderful landlord:
>
> "the rate we are paying is "EL9" which is "General Large Commercial" rate.
> we pay "Energy Supply" + "Energy Demand" + "Energy Delivery" + "Demand
> Delivery" + "Surcharges" + "Taxes"
>
> Note that residential electric costs less per kw than commercial. I pay 16
> cents per kw in my home, and 38 in my studio, which is in a commercial
> building. On top of that, with commercial electric you get what's called
> "demand", which is basically an charge if you go over the estimated usage.
> Because my building is quite large, my rate has been negotiated flat,
> meaning no surcharge for demand, and no discount for off-peak hours. Ah -
> the luxury to fire when it's convenient for me!
>
> I read my studio meter on a regular, almost daily, basis, just to make sure
> I haven't misread it. That's very easy to do as the dials all spin in
> different directions. I wholeheartedly thank Lynn for instilling my key
> sense of meter-reading. I am pretty obsessed with it.
>
> **********
> Lois Aronow Porcelain
>
> Brooklyn, NY
>
>
> www.loisaronow.com
>
>
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>
>
>

Arnold Howard on fri 18 apr 08


From: "John Rodgers"
>I still think having a meter readout and paper printout for
>an entire
> firing cycle is in order. It would be the definitive
> statement on
> consumption.

I have never used the Owl energy monitor, but it sounds like
an interesting way to track electric consumption:

http://www.theowl.com/

Sincerely,

Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com