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china painting with sugar water

updated wed 23 apr 08

 

marci Boskie's Mama =^..^= on fri 18 apr 08


Hey guys,
Thought I d send this link for anyone who is interested:
One of our PPIO members from the UK, Jill Egan ,
eganj11@yahoo.co.uk , who is know
for her wonderful texture work and modern designs ,
sent a link to a lesson she
did on another good chinapainting information site called
Chatty Teachers and Artists .
Jill did some great pieces featuring weathered trees painted
in black china paint , fired , and then tinted it with
more china paint.. The effect is gorgeous .
She then posted some short clips of herself painting the trees.
http://porcelainartist.proboards25.com/index.cgi?board=jill&action=display&thread=53&page=3
is the beginning of that thread .

She is mixing her chinapaint for this technique with
a simple sugar water solution . She boils sugar and water to a
syrup and then mixes chinapaint with it after it cools.
This can be stored in pans like watercolor and then thinned
with water.
She spritzes the paint with water to
get texture effects and drips and runs.. ( Some china
painters also use flat soda pop..
not diet ... for this) .

There are lots of different ways to mix and use chinapaints for
overglaze work ( traditionally , the paints are mixed and painted with
various oil mediums which allows for a lot of blendability ) ..
but I thought you would enjoy seeing an interesting and easy method .

Marci Blattenberger Boskie's Mama =^..^=
http://www.marciblattenberger.com
marci@ppio.com
Porcelain Painters International Online http://www.ppio.com


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May Luk on mon 21 apr 08


Hello Marci;

Thanks for the link. That looks very interesting and free. Do you remember me asking you about gold lustre at NCECA? I want to do that free hand drippy effect. I wonder if I can do this sugar water technique with the gold. I dabbled with gold lustre as well as mother of pearl lustre before. I only did it with fat oil and my brush was all messed up.

Now I have to regroup and get some new gold supply. There was a thread about few months ago. Can you recommend a source?

Thanks
May
Kings County, NY

marci Boskie's Mama =^..^= on tue 22 apr 08


> May Luk said:
>Hello Marci;
>
>Thanks for the link. That looks very interesting and free. Do you
>remember me asking you about gold lustre at NCECA? I want to do that
>free hand drippy effect. I wonder if I can do this sugar water
>technique with the gold. I dabbled with gold lustre as well as
>mother of pearl lustre before. I only did it with fat oil and my
>brush was all messed up.
>
>Now I have to regroup and get some new gold supply. There was a
>thread about few months ago. Can you recommend a source?
>
>Thanks
>May
>Kings County, NY

Hi May ,
Sugar water wont work with Liquid Bright gold.Getting the
metallic sheen from LIquid bright and other lusters is
a localized reduction process and
the sugar burnoff will affect that .. Fat oil wont really do
it either.. ( and yes, fat oil will make your brushes dry hard
.. but you can swish them in turp,
or most solvents or brush cleaners and it will soften back up ..
I have an orange based brush cleaner that works really well
with stiff brushes.. You can
also do what the European artists who use fat oil and turp
all the time do: you can store the brushes in
a container with a ball of cotton soaked in
a little clove oil or lavender oil ..The fumes from the clove or
lav oil will keep the brushes soft. ( The fumes will eat some plastics )
Sugar water would work with powdered
gold which is actual gold with a fluxing agent that is
mixed like chinapaint.. but its .....YEOW!!! SInce gold
has gone up , powdered gold has gone through the roof.. ( I
do know a source in Germany though if you want to take a look )
Powdered gold is also
a different look from Liquid bright .. It is richer (
The gold on expensive chinaware ) and needs to be burnished
after firing..
If you want to drip Liquid Bright gold , you can thin
it with dispersing fluid , ( I have that ) gold
or luster thinner ( or essence ) or a little lavender oil . ( See
other suppliers below ) You do have to be careful to not
over-thin it or it will fire a smudgy purple instead
of gold. I have a small opal glass jar
that I pour my gold out into and I can thin it from
there as needed...

As for where to get Liquid bright gold :
Hanovoa is out of business.. Reusche is now making gold and lusters .
You
can get Reusche stuff whoesale directly through Reusche
www.reuscheco.com or through National Artcraft www.nationalartcraft.com .
National artcraft also has Colorobbia gold
I havent tried either of these.. but Reusche supplies
the industry , so their gold should be good.. .....
Reusche is also making Liquid Bright Platinum ..
I know somebody was looking for the Hanovia platinum at one point ...
Also some of the china painting suppliers still have the Hanovia
N gold which is a good
quality gold.. .. and some ( like Rynnes and Kathy Peterson
) import from Germany ...
Try :
www.Rynnechina.com Rynne China

www.marylandchina.com Maryland China

www.thegoodstuff.com Kathy Peterson



Marci Blattenberger Boskie's Mama =^..^=
http://www.marciblattenberger.com
marci@ppio.com
Porcelain Painters International Online http://www.ppio.com


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