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brown is the colour of the rainbow

updated sat 16 feb 08

 

John Hesselberth on tue 12 feb 08


On Feb 12, 2008, at 11:51 AM, tony clennell wrote:

> If I get a nice cup I'm
> presenting it to John at Nceca Clayart room with a card- Love me
> tender! I ain't promising to take his heart as the cup won't be pretty
> but it could be beautiful and there lies the difference. John I'm
> determined to win you over to the brown side.


Hi Tony,

Well, I see I've developed a reputation. Such is the price of being
opinionated I guess. I will be delighted to study and possibly even
admire any of your brown cups.

But why would you want to put a rainbow in a blender???

See you there.

John


John Hesselberth
www.frogpondpottery.com

"Man is a tool-using animal....without tools he is nothing, with
tools he is all" .... Thomas Carlyle

tony clennell on tue 12 feb 08


A semester at USU can ofter two wood kiln firings per week and
sometimes 3 when the double wide is full and firing. That adds up to a
lot of exposure to brown pots. One of the undergrads Joel said that he
thought brown was the rainbow put in a blender. Sheila and I are
planning a cup show at our studio in early spring so we are doing a
bunch of different kinds of cups for the show and will put them up on
the blog and have a opening here with wine, cider etc. We want to have
a hundred or more cups from the wood kiln. I'm going to try to win
John H's heart and turn it to wood like mine. If I get a nice cup I'm
presenting it to John at Nceca Clayart room with a card- Love me
tender! I ain't promising to take his heart as the cup won't be pretty
but it could be beautiful and there lies the difference. John I'm
determined to win you over to the brown side.
Cheers,
Tony

--
http://sourcherrypottery.com
http://smokieclennell.blogspot.com

Lee on wed 13 feb 08


On 2/13/08, tony clennell wrote:

>Sheila and I are
> planning a cup show at our studio in early spring so we are doing a
> bunch of different kinds of cups for the show and will put them up on
> the blog and have a opening here with wine, cider etc. We want to have
> a hundred or more cups from the wood kiln.

Tony, I mentioned finding a brand-spanking-new copy of Hamada's 77
tea bowls book. He made these bowls and had the photo book made of
them to celebrate his 77th birthday. A friend of mine translated the
essay he wrote, in the back of the book and it will be published in an
Aussie magagzine along with some photos she acquired from the Hamada
family, to commemorate the 30th year of his passing.

Get this, Hamada said, he had hoped to do Raku after he was 70,
but hesitated because he didn't know if he was up to it. He was also
too busy in his later years. About Raku ,Hamada said, unlike high
fire, the clay body is not changed by the fire, but keeps the same
character as it had when it was thrown. He substituted salt fire to
approach the body in a similar way, because glaze is not put on the
body to alter it, but the atmosphere does the changing.

I have found this kind of humility present in the best
teachers in my life. Imagine Hamada thinking his throwing ability
was not up to the task!

--
Lee in Mashiko, Tochigi Japan
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"Tea is nought but this: first you heat the water, then you make the
tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi

tony clennell on thu 14 feb 08


>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Well, I see I've developed a reputation. Such is the price of being
> opinionated I guess. I will be delighted to study and possibly even
> admire any of your brown cups.
>
> But why would you want to put a rainbow in a blender???
>
> See you there.
>
> John
>

Hi John: I'm ever so pleased that you have walked over to the Art
Department's dark side. As you know so well a high iron clay will give
beautiful grays and black rainsbows if fired in reduction on the way
down. If the clay re-oxidizes it will give the brown and red
rainbows. You see why some of us love our solid fuel kilns- the
ability to increase one's pallette. You can pick oxidation or
reduction and up or down.
Lee the cup offer to John was not a bribe. You mentioned in a post
that gentlemen abound and I felt like being one.
Will cya in the Pits.
Tony
______________________________________________________________________________
John: I'm ever so pleased that you have crossed over to the the Art
Departments dark side. You see a rainbow will only remain black if the
kiln is fired down in reduction. If the kiln oxidizes it will give ya
red or brown.



--
http://sourcherrypottery.com
http://smokieclennell.blogspot.com

Paul Haigh on thu 14 feb 08


Hate to be picky, but I'm a science guy...

White light is diffracted to create a rainbow. Recombining the light would give you white. I have done this a number of times in building spectrometers. Think of sunlight going through a prism- recombine that light and you have sunlight.

Lee suggested black, but this is not a solution that absorbs light (as a paint absorbs certain wavelengths and reflects others), it IS light.

OK- back to the conversation...

Lee on thu 14 feb 08


On Feb 13, 2008 11:26 AM, John Hesselberth wrote:


> But why would you want to put a rainbow in a blender???

Art students should know better, you get black doing this, not brown.

It's a jibe John. Like when the Ferguson student
disparagingly labeled the pottery work from "back home" after a
holiday break as, MingeiSota. That label was apt and accepted by
the informal group as their name.


--
Lee in Mashiko, Tochigi Japan
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"Tea is nought but this: first you heat the water, then you make the
tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi

Lee on fri 15 feb 08


On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Paul Haigh wrote:
> Hate to be picky, but I'm a science guy...
>
> White light is diffracted to create a rainbow. Recombining the light would give you white. I have done
> this a number of times in building spectrometers. Think of sunlight going through a prism- recombine
>that light and you have sunlight.

Paul, the "rainbow" was a metaphor for all the colors. You can't
mix light in a blender. ;^)


--
Lee in Mashiko, Tochigi Japan
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"Tea is nought but this: first you heat the water, then you make the
tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi