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where to buy really heavy canvas? best way to lay canvas on work

updated thu 17 jan 08

 

Melissa Schooley on tue 15 jan 08

table

Hi Rod;

what are you using for a table top under that canvas that can take that kind of treatment and still have glue stick to it?
you have peaked my interest. just today i was thinking how crappy my table tops were with canvas that bunches under my wedging.

Melissa



-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Re: Where to buy really heavy canvas? Best way to lay canvas

on work table

From: Rod <rod@REDIRONSTUDIOS.CA>

Date: Tue, January 15, 2008 3:22 pm

To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG



Look in your yellow pages for tent supply, outdoor awning, etc. Heck in my

yellow pages looking up canvas in the index pointed to the above.



Extra mention - table top preparation



Thought I would add for some of the newer folk here that the absolute best

way to lay canvas on your work bench is to pour wood working glue on the

table top first, enough that you can spread a nice even coat over the entire

table at 2-3mm thickness.



Staple your canvas as per normal from one end, and then pull and stretch

from the other. It is much easier to have someone help you. Keep moving

around pulling and stretching.



Once you have the canvas completely stapled down, boil a large kettle of

water and pour this water over your canvas table top. Use a plastic scraper

to work the table top. You want to work the excess glue up through the

canvas. At this point work carefully not to catch and tear the canvas.



After the table top dries you can repeat the hot water treatment one more

time if you like to get rid of some of the rough glue surface\stickiness.

Clean with a sponge and a bucket of water.



The glue acts as a sizing, the boiling water causes a bit of shrinkage as

well as helps the glue\sizing work through the canvas.



The end result is an immaculate work top surface. You can push plastic

scrapers across it to pick up clay, etc. The canvas will never lift while

scraping and becomes impossible to tear.



The beauty of this method is you will start replacing your canvas because

you notice that it has worn very thin in places, not because it has rips and

tears all over the place. It will last years - for those of you who throw

mostly as a hobby a #10 closed weave canvas on your table top prepared this

way will last your life time.



BTW to remove and put a new one on is simple. Remove the staples, pour

boiling water on the table top and pull the canvas off.





Good Luck,

Rod



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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Josh Berkus

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:27 AM

To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG

Subject: Where to buy really heavy canvas?



Folks,



I'm looking for some really heavy stiff canvas for my wedging table, and

can't

figure out where to buy it. Fabric stores only seem to carry clothing-grade

stuff, and military surplus have tent canvas which is waterproofed, so I

can't use that.



What's the best place to get really thick canvas, like 3mm to 5mm thick?



--

Josh "the Fuzzy" Berkus

San Francisco



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Rod on tue 15 jan 08

table

Look in your yellow pages for tent supply, outdoor awning, etc. Heck in my
yellow pages looking up canvas in the index pointed to the above.

Extra mention - table top preparation

Thought I would add for some of the newer folk here that the absolute best
way to lay canvas on your work bench is to pour wood working glue on the
table top first, enough that you can spread a nice even coat over the entire
table at 2-3mm thickness.

Staple your canvas as per normal from one end, and then pull and stretch
from the other. It is much easier to have someone help you. Keep moving
around pulling and stretching.

Once you have the canvas completely stapled down, boil a large kettle of
water and pour this water over your canvas table top. Use a plastic scraper
to work the table top. You want to work the excess glue up through the
canvas. At this point work carefully not to catch and tear the canvas.

After the table top dries you can repeat the hot water treatment one more
time if you like to get rid of some of the rough glue surface\stickiness.
Clean with a sponge and a bucket of water.

The glue acts as a sizing, the boiling water causes a bit of shrinkage as
well as helps the glue\sizing work through the canvas.

The end result is an immaculate work top surface. You can push plastic
scrapers across it to pick up clay, etc. The canvas will never lift while
scraping and becomes impossible to tear.

The beauty of this method is you will start replacing your canvas because
you notice that it has worn very thin in places, not because it has rips and
tears all over the place. It will last years - for those of you who throw
mostly as a hobby a #10 closed weave canvas on your table top prepared this
way will last your life time.

BTW to remove and put a new one on is simple. Remove the staples, pour
boiling water on the table top and pull the canvas off.


Good Luck,
Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Josh Berkus
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:27 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Where to buy really heavy canvas?

Folks,

I'm looking for some really heavy stiff canvas for my wedging table, and
can't
figure out where to buy it. Fabric stores only seem to carry clothing-grade
stuff, and military surplus have tent canvas which is waterproofed, so I
can't use that.

What's the best place to get really thick canvas, like 3mm to 5mm thick?

--
Josh "the Fuzzy" Berkus
San Francisco

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