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etsy or the maydelle flea market and community-wide garage sale

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David Hendley on fri 28 dec 07


I finally took a look at Etsy last night. I mean if a great potter
like Richard Aerni is involved it must be worth a look, right?

Good lord, in comparison, the site makes the Maydelle flea
market and community-wide garage sale look like a champagne
and caviar reception on Fifth Avenue.
Of course, I immediately went to 'ceramics and pottery': 780
pages! Page one was mostly clay pendants and small slab plates.
Average purchase price: $8. Pages two and three, more of the
same. Let's skip ahead to, say, page 444. Finally, some real
pots, including a $225 wood-fired lidded jar, with a $12 mug
to the left and a $8 figurine to the right of it.
All in all, it was like the biggest, junkiest, most uneven, unjuried
art fair in the universe.

My take: I spent many years going to craft fairs only to
be assigned a booth between the 'sand art' guy (kids pouring
colored sand into bottles) and the 'woodworker' selling
unfinished pine hearts cut from 1 X 12's with a band saw.
Why would I want to virtually re-enter that world and offer
my work alongside work that is often marginal at best, and
awful at worst?
Please don't take offence, 0f course, if you have things for
sale on the website. There are many fine objects for sale.
But, the proportion of good to not-so-good looks to me to be
about 10 or 20 (marginal 'crafters') -to-one (solid professionals).

A couple more impressions:
I really don't see how selling a handmade object, no matter
how quickly it can be produced, is worthwhile at a price of
$4 or $5. I mean, it takes a good chunk of time to photograph,
format the photograph, write the description, and upload
everything to a website.

I never did find Richard's work for sale. Typing Richard Aerni
in the ceramics and pottery search box yielded no results.
I purposely didn't copy the address he included in his Clayart
message, as a test to see how hard it would be to find a
particular artist on Etsy.

Etsy is growing at an exponential rate! The number of people
who have joined in the last couple of months is amazing. The
'number of pieces sold' listed with several exhibitors is also
amazing. I may be missing the bandwagon by not signing up.

As for costs, my website, with pages and pages of content
costs me $48 a year, which includes my own domain name
and more bandwidth than I can possibly use. PayPal takes
about 2 or 3% of sales (more for international sales).

What the heck is a 'etsy' anyway?

David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com
http://www.farmpots.com

Charlie Hightower on sat 29 dec 07


I believe Etsy will be what you make it. Forget the
other guy. The fact is that this site is growing
exponentially. You can get on board or mark it up as a
"garage sale." When I go on the road to do shows, it
seems everyone is older. Much of the crowd that I've
talked to in the forums and chat rooms on Etsy are in
their 20's and 30's. Many are doing very well. I just
signed up before Christmas. I think in our current
economy we would be foolish to invest our time in any
one market. I do shows, sell in galleries, and also
sell a little online. That little I hope grows. For
all of you that say buy American and buy handmade,
HERE IT IS! Sure some stuff is better then others. The
cream rises. For anyone interested, here is a little
history on Etsy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmXJXYHnWPo

Charles Hightower
www.hightowerpottery.com
Evansville, IN

--- David Hendley wrote:

> I finally took a look at Etsy last night. I mean if
> a great potter
> like Richard Aerni is involved it must be worth a
> look, right?
>
> Good lord, in comparison, the site makes the
> Maydelle flea
> market and community-wide garage sale look like a
> champagne
> and caviar reception on Fifth Avenue.
> Of course, I immediately went to 'ceramics and
> pottery': 780
> pages! Page one was mostly clay pendants and small
> slab plates.
> Average purchase price: $8. Pages two and three,
> more of the
> same. Let's skip ahead to, say, page 444. Finally,
> some real
> pots, including a $225 wood-fired lidded jar, with a
> $12 mug
> to the left and a $8 figurine to the right of it.
> All in all, it was like the biggest, junkiest, most
> uneven, unjuried
> art fair in the universe.
>
> My take: I spent many years going to craft fairs
> only to
> be assigned a booth between the 'sand art' guy (kids
> pouring
> colored sand into bottles) and the 'woodworker'
> selling
> unfinished pine hearts cut from 1 X 12's with a band
> saw.
> Why would I want to virtually re-enter that world
> and offer
> my work alongside work that is often marginal at
> best, and
> awful at worst?
> Please don't take offence, 0f course, if you have
> things for
> sale on the website. There are many fine objects for
> sale.
> But, the proportion of good to not-so-good looks to
> me to be
> about 10 or 20 (marginal 'crafters') -to-one (solid
> professionals).
>
> A couple more impressions:
> I really don't see how selling a handmade object, no
> matter
> how quickly it can be produced, is worthwhile at a
> price of
> $4 or $5. I mean, it takes a good chunk of time to
> photograph,
> format the photograph, write the description, and
> upload
> everything to a website.
>
> I never did find Richard's work for sale. Typing
> Richard Aerni
> in the ceramics and pottery search box yielded no
> results.
> I purposely didn't copy the address he included in
> his Clayart
> message, as a test to see how hard it would be to
> find a
> particular artist on Etsy.
>
> Etsy is growing at an exponential rate! The number
> of people
> who have joined in the last couple of months is
> amazing. The
> 'number of pieces sold' listed with several
> exhibitors is also
> amazing. I may be missing the bandwagon by not
> signing up.
>
> As for costs, my website, with pages and pages of
> content
> costs me $48 a year, which includes my own domain
> name
> and more bandwidth than I can possibly use. PayPal
> takes
> about 2 or 3% of sales (more for international
> sales).
>
> What the heck is a 'etsy' anyway?
>
> David Hendley
> Maydelle, Texas
> david(at)farmpots(dot)com
> http://www.farmpots.com
>
>
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Steve Slatin on sat 29 dec 07


David --

There's more to Etsy than initially meets the eye.

The first time I saw it I had the same reaction as
you did. My impression was that the cost of
entry was so low that goods of no particular
quality were being made widely available.

A few months back I sat near a lady who made
rather interesting purses at a show -- she told
me she sells over a thousand dollars of products
a month through Etsy -- and gave me her site
address. It's not at all like most of the other
things that are there, but she does well, mostly
using the site as a means to avoid having to
get a 'full' website (that is, most sales are to
people she's given a business card to, or to
people who have received her products as gifts
-- her Etsy address is repeated on packing
materials, 'thank you' notes and so on.

So that's one possible use, though you
don't need another website. Being ultra-cheap
and easy to use, though, it may be
useful for the technophobes among us.

Someone recently pointed out to me that
Etsy management is responding to the
profusion of vendors and irregular quality
with "Etsy Teams." The teams are groups
of like-minded vendors, or vendors from a
particular location, or some other self-identified
grouping, that have a group page that can
be used for direct sales or do redirect
interested users to individual sites,
provide links to things like Yahoo groups,
etc.

And there is already an "Etsy Mud Team"
-- some OK stuff, lots of stuff that doesn't
interest me, lots of what appears to be
poorly made ceramic-pendant-goddess-
fusion-bellydance-nonsense and the like.

If anyone's interested, it appears that the
management lets you link openly, and
seizing the 'team clayart' title should
be pretty easily done.

I don't doubt that in two years you'll
need to jury into many Etsy teams.

It's interesting to watch it grow, but I'm
still convinced that selling locally, to
people who gets your stuff into their
hands before they decide to buy, is
the sensible thing to do. Selling
function (or even utilitarian) ware is
different from selling goods that are
primarily of interest for their appearance.

So I wouldn't do it myself, but some
people will, and probably should.

Best wishes -- Steve Slatin

David Hendley wrote:
I finally took a look at Etsy last night. I mean if a great potter
like Richard Aerni is involved it must be worth a look, right?

Good lord, in comparison, the site makes the Maydelle flea
market and community-wide garage sale look like a champagne
and caviar reception on Fifth Avenue.

Steve Slatin --

History teaches us that there have been but few infringements of personal liberty by the state which have not been justified ...
in the name of righteousness and the public good, and few which
have not been directed ... at politically helpless minorities.
-- Harlan Fiske Stone

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Chaeli Sullivan on sat 29 dec 07


Ironically, i thought exactly the same thing that David has expressed. How in the world are folks selling "quality" items on Etsy when the site features, focusses on, and promotes $4-8 items?
However, in listening to others - they are making money on Etsy!
I did follow Richard's link and found him easily enough - because i already knew he had a listing there. But later explored the site and realized there was no "artist's list" nor referral to the individual sites other than a generic listing of "bowls", "plates", etc.
True, they are an evolving market and evidently a successful outlet with marketing potential. However, before i'd use Etsy ( if i ever get pieces out of the kiln worth marketing! ) i'd like to see them categorize their retailers in a better fashion. List the artists by name and also prioritize the products by price range.
Chae

David Hendley wrote:
I finally took a look at Etsy last night. I mean if a great potter
like Richard Aerni is involved it must be worth a look, right?

Good lord, in comparison, the site makes the Maydelle flea
market and community-wide garage sale look like a champagne
and caviar reception on Fifth Avenue.
Of course, I immediately went to 'ceramics and pottery': 780
pages! Page one was mostly clay pendants and small slab plates.
Average purchase price: $8. Pages two and three, more of the
same. Let's skip ahead to, say, page 444. Finally, some real
pots, including a $225 wood-fired lidded jar, with a $12 mug
to the left and a $8 figurine to the right of it.
All in all, it was like the biggest, junkiest, most uneven, unjuried
art fair in the universe.

My take: I spent many years going to craft fairs only to
be assigned a booth between the 'sand art' guy (kids pouring
colored sand into bottles) and the 'woodworker' selling
unfinished pine hearts cut from 1 X 12's with a band saw.
Why would I want to virtually re-enter that world and offer
my work alongside work that is often marginal at best, and
awful at worst?
Please don't take offence, 0f course, if you have things for
sale on the website. There are many fine objects for sale.
But, the proportion of good to not-so-good looks to me to be
about 10 or 20 (marginal 'crafters') -to-one (solid professionals).

A couple more impressions:
I really don't see how selling a handmade object, no matter
how quickly it can be produced, is worthwhile at a price of
$4 or $5. I mean, it takes a good chunk of time to photograph,
format the photograph, write the description, and upload
everything to a website.

I never did find Richard's work for sale. Typing Richard Aerni
in the ceramics and pottery search box yielded no results.
I purposely didn't copy the address he included in his Clayart
message, as a test to see how hard it would be to find a
particular artist on Etsy.

Etsy is growing at an exponential rate! The number of people
who have joined in the last couple of months is amazing. The
'number of pieces sold' listed with several exhibitors is also
amazing. I may be missing the bandwagon by not signing up.

As for costs, my website, with pages and pages of content
costs me $48 a year, which includes my own domain name
and more bandwidth than I can possibly use. PayPal takes
about 2 or 3% of sales (more for international sales).

What the heck is a 'etsy' anyway?

David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com
http://www.farmpots.com

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Alyssa Ettinger on sat 29 dec 07


i made gobs of $$ this holiday season on etsy, as opposed to one of the
giant fairs i did in nyc where i made a measly $79 bucks.

most of my stuff is white and textural; people walk right by it in shows,
but it's at eye level on the computer.

i started a seconds/sample sale on etsy yesterday morning, and have already
sold out all my bowls. and i haven't even started to try any of the showcase
things, or tools like that.

a lot of stuff up there is bad. but there are also really, really great
finds. basically, i use etsy as a clearinghouse for all my e-commerce, and
if i get more out of it than that i feel i'm doing well. plus, selling there
is so cheap what's to lose in trying?


alyssa
www.alyssaettinger.com

Mike Gordon on sat 29 dec 07


How do you handle packing and shipping? Mike Gordon
On Dec 29, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Alyssa Ettinger wrote:

> i made gobs of $$ this holiday season on etsy, as opposed to one of the
> giant fairs i did in nyc where i made a measly $79 bucks.
>
> most of my stuff is white and textural; people walk right by it in
> shows,
> but it's at eye level on the computer.
>
> i started a seconds/sample sale on etsy yesterday morning, and have
> already
> sold out all my bowls. and i haven't even started to try any of the
> showcase
> things, or tools like that.
>
> a lot of stuff up there is bad. but there are also really, really great
> finds. basically, i use etsy as a clearinghouse for all my e-commerce,
> and
> if i get more out of it than that i feel i'm doing well. plus, selling
> there
> is so cheap what's to lose in trying?
>
>
> alyssa
> www.alyssaettinger.com
>
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Richard Aerni on sat 29 dec 07


Sorry if I am repeating this, but I sent a couple of posts to clayart
yesterday responding to David Hendley's post, but they never appeared, as
far as I can see.
The way to get your name identified on etsy if your website name is
different from your name is to include your name in the "tags" you append to
an item as you list it. Then if someone puts your name into the search
engine, you get the hit and they can click on your link to see your shop.

As for possible uses, I've been wrestling with how to make a "real" website
function as a selling tool, without too much work. This appears to be a way
to do it. You can set up an "etsy" button on your site that will go to your
shop when clicked on, and then people can shop and pay very easily, and
cheaply for the artist. Then, no special functions or tools needed to take
down the sold item, or to relist others in its place.

Seems like a good idea to me...

Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY


On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:03:33 -0800, Chaeli Sullivan wrote:

>Ironically, i thought exactly the same thing that David has expressed. How
in the world are folks selling "quality" items on Etsy when the site
features, focusses on, and promotes $4-8 items?
> However, in listening to others - they are making money on Etsy!
> I did follow Richard's link and found him easily enough - because i
already knew he had a listing there. But later explored the site and
realized there was no "artist's list" nor referral to the individual sites
other than a generic listing of "bowls", "plates", etc.
> True, they are an evolving market and evidently a successful outlet with
marketing potential. However, before i'd use Etsy ( if i ever get pieces
out of the kiln worth marketing! ) i'd like to see them categorize their
retailers in a better fashion. List the artists by name and also prioritize
the products by price range.
> Chae
>
>David Hendley wrote:
> I finally took a look at Etsy last night. I mean if a great potter
>like Richard Aerni is involved it must be worth a look, right?
>
>Good lord, in comparison, the site makes the Maydelle flea
>market and community-wide garage sale look like a champagne
>and caviar reception on Fifth Avenue.
>Of course, I immediately went to 'ceramics and pottery': 780
>pages! Page one was mostly clay pendants and small slab plates.
>Average purchase price: $8. Pages two and three, more of the
>same. Let's skip ahead to, say, page 444. Finally, some real
>pots, including a $225 wood-fired lidded jar, with a $12 mug
>to the left and a $8 figurine to the right of it.
>All in all, it was like the biggest, junkiest, most uneven, unjuried
>art fair in the universe.
>
>My take: I spent many years going to craft fairs only to
>be assigned a booth between the 'sand art' guy (kids pouring
>colored sand into bottles) and the 'woodworker' selling
>unfinished pine hearts cut from 1 X 12's with a band saw.
>Why would I want to virtually re-enter that world and offer
>my work alongside work that is often marginal at best, and
>awful at worst?
>Please don't take offence, 0f course, if you have things for
>sale on the website. There are many fine objects for sale.
>But, the proportion of good to not-so-good looks to me to be
>about 10 or 20 (marginal 'crafters') -to-one (solid professionals).
>
>A couple more impressions:
>I really don't see how selling a handmade object, no matter
>how quickly it can be produced, is worthwhile at a price of
>$4 or $5. I mean, it takes a good chunk of time to photograph,
>format the photograph, write the description, and upload
>everything to a website.
>
>I never did find Richard's work for sale. Typing Richard Aerni
>in the ceramics and pottery search box yielded no results.
>I purposely didn't copy the address he included in his Clayart
>message, as a test to see how hard it would be to find a
>particular artist on Etsy.
>
>Etsy is growing at an exponential rate! The number of people
>who have joined in the last couple of months is amazing. The
>'number of pieces sold' listed with several exhibitors is also
>amazing. I may be missing the bandwagon by not signing up.
>
>As for costs, my website, with pages and pages of content
>costs me $48 a year, which includes my own domain name
>and more bandwidth than I can possibly use. PayPal takes
>about 2 or 3% of sales (more for international sales).
>
>What the heck is a 'etsy' anyway?
>
>David Hendley
>Maydelle, Texas
>david(at)farmpots(dot)com
>http://www.farmpots.com
>
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Alyssa Ettinger on sat 29 dec 07


i do all my shipping through usps via paypal *via* etsy.

this is pretty seamless because the buyer pays via paypal, and then i go
into paypal and print shipping labels for the sale (i can choose which
shipper, but i like usps priority, and the boxes are free for the asking.)
then, i request a "carrier pick-up" online, so they come to my studio on
days when i've requested them and they take all my packages away.

all i need are peanuts and bubble, packing tape, and a printer.


alyssa
alyssaettinger.com

Lois Ruben Aronow on sat 29 dec 07


"Quality" is a relative issue. Having a place where artists of all skill
levels can sell without judgment is a rare and wonderful thing. Etsy
doesn't "focus" on any particular kind of work. The stuff on the front page
is treasuries that are put together by other sellers. Sellers can also buy
a slot on the front page - for a whopping 7 bucks. Etsy is reflecting the
people who put the work into selling their wares.

I made a fortune on Etsy this holiday season, and my stuff is not what many
people would consider "cheap". I had to close my store early, as I went out
of town on the 20th and would not be able to fulfill orders. I was so
bummed, because I was selling right up until I left. The site has also
given me several strong leads for commissions for after the new year.

I did well on Guild.com too, but, with the exception of a $1000 order, not
as well as I did on Etsy. and if we're talking quality, I did a big Indie
show in December, which was quite possibly the least pretty show on earth.
I was in between the import charm necklaces and one of 5 vendors that sold
typewriter key jewelry (and across from the gocco'd thongs with the imps on
them). Guess what? I did REALLY well there - better than I ever did at
Crafts Park Avenue. Did I mention the work was hideous? Did I also mention
that the crowds were so large they had to let people in in shifts, and the
lines to get in wrapped around the block? My mind is happily reeling with
the thought of mentoring new artists to better show off their work.

So don't go crowing about the quality of others. focus on the buyers - if
you are selling to the right crowd.

**********
Lois Aronow Porcelain

Brooklyn, NY


www.loisaronow.com




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Chaeli Sullivan
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:04 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Etsy or the Maydelle flea market and
> community-wide garage sale
>
> Ironically, i thought exactly the same thing that David has
> expressed. How in the world are folks selling "quality"
> items on Etsy when the site features, focusses on, and
> promotes $4-8 items?
> However, in listening to others - they are making money on Etsy!
> I did follow Richard's link and found him easily enough -
> because i already knew he had a listing there. But later
> explored the site and realized there was no "artist's list"
> nor referral to the individual sites other than a generic
> listing of "bowls", "plates", etc.
> True, they are an evolving market and evidently a
> successful outlet with marketing potential. However, before
> i'd use Etsy ( if i ever get pieces out of the kiln worth
> marketing! ) i'd like to see them categorize their retailers
> in a better fashion. List the artists by name and also
> prioritize the products by price range.
> Chae
>
> David Hendley wrote:
> I finally took a look at Etsy last night. I mean if a great
> potter like Richard Aerni is involved it must be worth a look, right?
>
> Good lord, in comparison, the site makes the Maydelle flea
> market and community-wide garage sale look like a champagne
> and caviar reception on Fifth Avenue.
> Of course, I immediately went to 'ceramics and pottery': 780
> pages! Page one was mostly clay pendants and small slab plates.
> Average purchase price: $8. Pages two and three, more of the
> same. Let's skip ahead to, say, page 444. Finally, some real
> pots, including a $225 wood-fired lidded jar, with a $12 mug
> to the left and a $8 figurine to the right of it.
> All in all, it was like the biggest, junkiest, most uneven,
> unjuried art fair in the universe.
>
> My take: I spent many years going to craft fairs only to be
> assigned a booth between the 'sand art' guy (kids pouring
> colored sand into bottles) and the 'woodworker' selling
> unfinished pine hearts cut from 1 X 12's with a band saw.
> Why would I want to virtually re-enter that world and offer
> my work alongside work that is often marginal at best, and
> awful at worst?
> Please don't take offence, 0f course, if you have things for
> sale on the website. There are many fine objects for sale.
> But, the proportion of good to not-so-good looks to me to be
> about 10 or 20 (marginal 'crafters') -to-one (solid professionals).
>
> A couple more impressions:
> I really don't see how selling a handmade object, no matter
> how quickly it can be produced, is worthwhile at a price of
> $4 or $5. I mean, it takes a good chunk of time to
> photograph, format the photograph, write the description, and
> upload everything to a website.
>
> I never did find Richard's work for sale. Typing Richard
> Aerni in the ceramics and pottery search box yielded no results.
> I purposely didn't copy the address he included in his
> Clayart message, as a test to see how hard it would be to
> find a particular artist on Etsy.
>
> Etsy is growing at an exponential rate! The number of people
> who have joined in the last couple of months is amazing. The
> 'number of pieces sold' listed with several exhibitors is
> also amazing. I may be missing the bandwagon by not signing up.
>
> As for costs, my website, with pages and pages of content
> costs me $48 a year, which includes my own domain name and
> more bandwidth than I can possibly use. PayPal takes about 2
> or 3% of sales (more for international sales).
>
> What the heck is a 'etsy' anyway?
>
> David Hendley
> Maydelle, Texas
> david(at)farmpots(dot)com
> http://www.farmpots.com
>
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Lee on sun 30 dec 07


On Dec 30, 2007 5:43 AM, Eva Gallagher wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> Aerni does not come up under the username only if you use the "tags...."
> categories.

I hope you tried my link. I used the search with the largest
categories and just used his name. It worked.

>When I tried to find yours I could not get anything about your
> site under any of the categories - but perhaps you do not have it anymore?

Folks got Etsy backasswards. Don't even think of it as a
way to promote your work. Way too many shops there. But you can put
a slideshow of your work at Etsy on your webpage or on your weblog.
Think of it as a shopping cart with no setup fee or monthly fee.;

I don't have work up now.

My primary way of using it so far, is when a regular
customer asks me if I have anything they can buy online. I ask them
what they are thinking about and then put up a number of things for
them to look at. I have sold expensive things there, such as large
platters and boxed tea ceremony bowls. It is much easier than
dealing with paypal buttons and re-writing your web page. Try it
and see what I mean. You'll never go back to buttons if you have used
them in the past.

--
Lee in Mashiko, Tochigi Japan
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"Tea is nought but this: first you heat the water, then you make the
tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi

Lee on sun 30 dec 07


> --- David Hendley wrote:

> > I never did find Richard's work for sale. Typing
> > Richard Aerni
> > in the ceramics and pottery search box yielded no
> > results.

Not sure what your problem was but he showed up on my search on my first try:

Try it yourself.

http://www.etsy.com/search_results.php?search_type=tag_title_description&search_query=Richard+Aerni

Think of Etsy as the Yellowpages. I tried selling like you do
with Paypal buttons and that is a real pain in the ass. Etsy does
all that stuff for you automatically, and marks the work as sold as
soon as it is bought, so you don't have to take it off your page or
mark it sold.

You can generate slide shows to embed at your own webpage or
weblog and/or simply put your Esty link at your site. You can simply
use Etsy as a low cost shopping cart.


--
Lee in Mashiko, Tochigi Japan
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/

"Tea is nought but this: first you heat the water, then you make the
tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi

Pat's Pottery on sun 30 dec 07


Alyssa,
How do you get your stuff to fit in those free usps priority boxes? =
After the bubble wrap, ect. As far as I know, there are only two sizes, =
too small for my stuff.
Pat
<From: Alyssa Ettinger
Subject: Re: Etsy or the Maydelle flea market and community-wide garage =
sale

i do all my shipping through usps via paypal *via* etsy.

this is pretty seamless because the buyer pays via paypal, and then i go
into paypal and print shipping labels for the sale (i can choose which
shipper, but i like usps priority, and the boxes are free for the =
asking.)
then, i request a "carrier pick-up" online, so they come to my studio on
days when i've requested them and they take all my packages away.

all i need are peanuts and bubble, packing tape, and a printer.


alyssa>>

Alyssa Ettinger on mon 31 dec 07


there are about 5 different sizes, and my work is fairly small.

i can fit either of my small vases, or my bowls, in the 12x8x8 without
problem. cups/tumblers/mugs fit easily into the 6x6x6. plates do just fine
in the longer, thinner ones.

knock wood, i've only had one thing break and it was in a giant package.

alyssa
www.alyssaettinger.com