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Mark Issenberg on wed 14 nov 07


In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs.. Of course they are
great for the light but when I have to replace them I havent found a place
that will recycle them. I called the recycle place in Chattanooga Tenn and they
say just break them up and put them in the garbage. The local dump/recycle
has the same answer.

Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I thought that
fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by area with
mercury.
I need help, any ideas?????

I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..

Mark
Lookoutmountainpottery.com
Rising Fawn Georgia



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Ingeborg Foco on wed 14 nov 07


Mark,

You are correct, they contain mercury and it is the worst thing to do; they
are hazardous waste. We finally have recycling for hazardous waste but
unfortunately, one has to save up the goods for the day they are accepting
hazardous waste; it is only every 5 or six months. Then we have to drive to
the place within a certain time period and drop the stuff off. It is not
convenient but we do it. I suspect most people just throw them into the
garbage.
Best wishes

Ingeborg
www.thepottersworkshop.com



On Nov 14, 2007 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg wrote:

> In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs.. Of course they
> are
> great for the light but when I have to replace them I havent found a place
>
> that will recycle them. I called the recycle place in Chattanooga Tenn and
> they
> say just break them up and put them in the garbage. The local
> dump/recycle
> has the same answer.
>
> Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I thought that
>
> fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by area with
> mercury.
> I need help, any ideas?????
>
> I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
>
> Mark
> Lookoutmountainpottery.com
> Rising Fawn Georgia
>
>
>
>
>
>

John Rodgers on wed 14 nov 07


Mark,

I tried to look up Fluorescent bulb disposal and got a whole lot of
runaround and passing of the buck. Bottom line - most references said
take it to your local toxic waste facility. But who might that be - when
they are all passing the buck?

Attached is a PDF specifically on subject of Flourescent bulb disposal
in the State of North Carolina and Georgia - rules for toxic disposal.
Maybe there are some answers there for you.

Good Luck.

John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL

Mark Issenberg wrote:
> In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs.. Of course they are
> great for the light but when I have to replace them I havent found a place
> that will recycle them. I called the recycle place in Chattanooga Tenn and they
> say just break them up and put them in the garbage. The local dump/recycle
> has the same answer.
>
> Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I thought that
> fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by area with
> mercury.
> I need help, any ideas?????
>
> I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
>
> Mark
> Lookoutmountainpottery.com
> Rising Fawn Georgia
>
>
>
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Kathy Forer on wed 14 nov 07


On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg wrote:
>
> Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I
> thought that
> fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by
> area with
> mercury.
> I need help, any ideas?????

It's much easier to recycle CFLs (compact fluorescent bulbs) but
there's probably a place nearby that takes regular fluorescent bulbs.
Both Ikea and Whole Foods have recycling bins. If neither is nearby,
try http://www.recycleabulb.com/ for CFLs, earth911.org or http://
www.nema.org/lamprecycle/recyclers.html

readers-to-earth-911-for-community-information-on-pro/> See earth911
for zip code searches for recyclers.

Unfortunately a search of "fluorescent bulbs" and your zip code
returns no results within 25 miles, though 50 miles may help if
that's your county,

-- Kathy
www.kathyforer.com

Randall Moody on wed 14 nov 07


Sorry to disagree but they do not meet the requirements of "hazardous
waste".

In most states, fluorescent and compact fluorescent light bulbs used at home
can be disposed of in the same way as regular light bulbs. While all
fluorescent bulbs contain a trace amount of mercury, the quantity is so
minute that household disposal is not regulated by federal standards
(established by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency).

However, if you are disposing many fluorescent lamps you should know that
because they contain mercury they are classified as hazardous waste unless:

1. You, as the end user, generate less than 100kg (that is about 220lbs of
mercury in this case) of hazardous waste per month (approx. 360 4' T12
lamps)
2. The lamps pass the EPA Toxicity Characteristic Leaching Procedure (TCLP)
Test
.

If the lamps meet these criteria and your state's regulation on TCLP is not
stricter than the EPA's regulation, the lamps can be disposed of the same
way as normal waste. However, if the lamps do not meet the criteria to be
classified as normal waste, they will need to be either recycled by a lamp
recycler or disposed under the hazardous waste guidelines of your state.
Randall in Atlanta




On Nov 14, 2007 7:09 PM, Ingeborg Foco wrote:

> Mark,
>
> You are correct, they contain mercury and it is the worst thing to do;
> they
> are hazardous waste. We finally have recycling for hazardous waste but
> unfortunately, one has to save up the goods for the day they are accepting
> hazardous waste; it is only every 5 or six months. Then we have to drive
> to
> the place within a certain time period and drop the stuff off. It is not
> convenient but we do it. I suspect most people just throw them into the
> garbage.
> Best wishes
>
> Ingeborg
> www.thepottersworkshop.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2007 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg wrote:
>
> > In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs.. Of course they
> > are
> > great for the light but when I have to replace them I havent found a
> place
> >
> > that will recycle them. I called the recycle place in Chattanooga Tenn
> and
> > they
> > say just break them up and put them in the garbage. The local
> > dump/recycle
> > has the same answer.
> >
> > Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I thought
> that
> >
> > fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by area
> with
> > mercury.
> > I need help, any ideas?????
> >
> > I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
> >
> > Mark
> > Lookoutmountainpottery.com
> > Rising Fawn Georgia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Randall Moody on wed 14 nov 07


From http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/index.htm

Fluorescent light bulbs contain a very small amount of mercury sealed within
the glass tubing. EPA recommends the following clean-up and disposal
guidelines:

1.

*Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more*.
2.

*Carefully scoop up the fragments and powder with stiff paper or
cardboard and place them in a sealed plastic bag*.
1.

Use disposable rubber gloves, if available (i.e., do not use
bare hands). Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet
wipes and place them in the plastic bag.
2.

Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard
surfaces.
3.

*Place all cleanup materials in a second sealed plastic bag*.
1.

Place the first bag in a second sealed plastic bag and put it in
the outdoor trash container or in another outdoor protected area for the
next normal trash disposal.
Note: Some states prohibit such trash disposal and require that
broken and unbroken lamps be taken to a local recycling center.
2.

Wash your hands after disposing of the bag.


On Nov 14, 2007 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg wrote:

> In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs.. Of course they
> are
> great for the light but when I have to replace them I havent found a place
> that will recycle them. I called the recycle place in Chattanooga Tenn and
> they
> say just break them up and put them in the garbage. The local
> dump/recycle
> has the same answer.
>
> Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I thought that
> fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by area with
> mercury.
> I need help, any ideas?????
>
> I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
>
> Mark
> Lookoutmountainpottery.com
> Rising Fawn Georgia
>
>
>
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> http://www.aol.com
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Hank Murrow on wed 14 nov 07


On Nov 14, 2007, at 5:43 AM, Mark Issenberg wrote:

> In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs.. Of course
> they are
> great for the light but when I have to replace them I havent found
> a place
> that will recycle them. I called the recycle place in Chattanooga
> Tenn and they
> say just break them up and put them in the garbage. The local dump/
> recycle
> has the same answer.
>
> Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I
> thought that
> fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by
> area with
> mercury.
> I need help, any ideas?????

Dear Mark;

My father used a bunch of them from the RAND Corp. to make a patio
'roof' held in aluminum frames riveted together. The tubes were
sealed on the top side with a bead of silicone. They provided nearly
ideal light for growing orchids. We could walk on the roof if we put
down a 1/2" sheet of plywood to distribute the load. The new owner of
the house tore the thing down, but over the thirty+ years it never
leaked.

Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank

WJ Seidl on wed 14 nov 07


Mark:
We're lucky, in that we live in a town that does recycle fluorescent bulbs.
However, in your case...call the idiots at the trash/ recycle center
back up and find out when their
"hazardous waste" collection dates are. Bring the bulbs to them then.

If they give you a hassle, give them a copy of this:

http://www.worldwise.com/recfluorlig.html

I find it extremely interesting that they told you to "break them up and
put them in the garbage."
According to the site above, mercury in the bulbs dissipates into the
atmosphere at room temperature,
so they are telling you in effect to go poison yourself, your family and
the local groundwater.
Real neighborly of them, now ain't it? Wonder how the EPA would like
hearing that? Or better yet, CNN?
They would probably be all over them in a heartbeat.

Best,
Wayne Seidl

Mark Issenberg wrote:
> In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs.. Of course they are
> great for the light but when I have to replace them I havent found a place
> that will recycle them. I called the recycle place in Chattanooga Tenn and they
> say just break them up and put them in the garbage. The local dump/recycle
> has the same answer.
>
> Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I thought that
> fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by area with
> mercury.
> I need help, any ideas?????
>
> I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
>
> Mark
> Lookoutmountainpottery.com
> Rising Fawn Georgia
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
>
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John Sankey on thu 15 nov 07


"In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent light bulbs. Do do
not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I thought
that fluorescent bulbs have mercury. I do not want to contaminate
my area with mercury."

Yes, all fluorescent lamps contain mercury, but the amount is
small. In fact, the mercury emitted from the additional coal-
fired portion of North American generation required to power an
incandescent lamp with the same light output would be over ten
times the mercury in the fluorescent lamp. That's why, in both
Canada and the USA, toxic waste regulations are specifically
crafted to not treat them as toxic waste, because overall they
aren't.

The phosphor on the inside of the glass is toxic when it contacts
cut skin (the cuts take forever to heal), so don't break them.
Just send them to landfill.

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Mike Gordon on thu 15 nov 07


Here in Contra Costa County,Ca. we are encouraged to recycle florescent
bulbs rather than put them in the trash with other glass items. They
take them at the recycle center along with old paint, car oil, etc. at
no charge. Any Mercury in the landfill no matter how small is too much.
Find a way to recycle it's not that hard. Mike Gordon

Edouard Bastarache Inc. on thu 15 nov 07


Good thing they do not contained beryllium
anymore.
Its exposure limit is now 0.00015 mg/m3 up here.
It is also a confirmed carcinogen in humans.


Gis la revido,

Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto

Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/Welcome.html
http://perso.orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.pshcanada.com/Toxicology.htm
http://www.ceramique.com/librairie/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/



----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Moody"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: recycle


> Sorry to disagree but they do not meet the
> requirements of "hazardous
> waste".
>
> In most states, fluorescent and compact
> fluorescent light bulbs used at home
> can be disposed of in the same way as regular
> light bulbs. While all
> fluorescent bulbs contain a trace amount of
> mercury, the quantity is so
> minute that household disposal is not regulated
> by federal standards
> (established by the U.S. Environmental
> Protection Agency).
>
> However, if you are disposing many fluorescent
> lamps you should know that
> because they contain mercury they are classified
> as hazardous waste unless:
>
> 1. You, as the end user, generate less than
> 100kg (that is about 220lbs of
> mercury in this case) of hazardous waste per
> month (approx. 360 4' T12
> lamps)
> 2. The lamps pass the EPA Toxicity
> Characteristic Leaching Procedure (TCLP)
> Test
> .
>
> If the lamps meet these criteria and your
> state's regulation on TCLP is not
> stricter than the EPA's regulation, the lamps
> can be disposed of the same
> way as normal waste. However, if the lamps do
> not meet the criteria to be
> classified as normal waste, they will need to be
> either recycled by a lamp
> recycler or disposed under the hazardous waste
> guidelines of your state.
> Randall in Atlanta
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2007 7:09 PM, Ingeborg Foco
> wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> You are correct, they contain mercury and it is
>> the worst thing to do;
>> they
>> are hazardous waste. We finally have recycling
>> for hazardous waste but
>> unfortunately, one has to save up the goods for
>> the day they are accepting
>> hazardous waste; it is only every 5 or six
>> months. Then we have to drive
>> to
>> the place within a certain time period and drop
>> the stuff off. It is not
>> convenient but we do it. I suspect most people
>> just throw them into the
>> garbage.
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Ingeborg
>> www.thepottersworkshop.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2007 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg
>> wrote:
>>
>> > In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent
>> > light bulbs.. Of course they
>> > are
>> > great for the light but when I have to
>> > replace them I havent found a
>> place
>> >
>> > that will recycle them. I called the recycle
>> > place in Chattanooga Tenn
>> and
>> > they
>> > say just break them up and put them in the
>> > garbage. The local
>> > dump/recycle
>> > has the same answer.
>> >
>> > Do do not want to break them and throw them
>> > in the garbage. I thought
>> that
>> >
>> > fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not
>> > want to contaminate by area
>> with
>> > mercury.
>> > I need help, any ideas?????
>> >
>> > I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
>> >
>> > Mark
>> > Lookoutmountainpottery.com
>> >
>> > Rising Fawn Georgia
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>> be reached at
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>>
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Randall Moody on fri 16 nov 07


Mercury is a naturally occurring element so your statement is simply not
true unless you believe that we should eliminate the element Hg from the
planet.
While I am not a "screw the environment" type of person I am also not a
"henny penny" reactionary type either. According to the EPA you will be just
fine tossing those old fluorescents. I personally wouldn't break them up due
to the possibility of inhalation. If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy to
recycle them knock yourself out but your local dump won't become a superfund
site if you dispose of them in accordance with the guidelines.

Randall

On Nov 15, 2007 5:36 PM, Mike Gordon wrote:

> Any Mercury in the landfill no matter how small is too much.
>
>
>
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Darlene Yarnetsky-Mudcat Pottery on fri 16 nov 07


I too have the very long fluorescent light bulbs, but at a cost of
minimum 10 dollars to visit the local dump, and recycle places at least
an hour away we break them up and throw them away in the regular trash
pick up. The safest way I have found is to cover the bulbs end to end
in two thick contractor bags (make sure they completely overlap) and
hit one end of the bulb gently with a hammer. Carefully pick up the
bags and place them in a heavy box and seal well.

Darlene Y.
Mudcat Pottery

scmillers on sat 17 nov 07


I'd rather have the mercury in the landfill, than in the house. If you do
your research, you'll find that even the new florescent spiral lightbulbs
have mercury in them. Therefore, when bringing them home, you are bringing
mercury into the home. If broken, please clean it up carefully. If you
have a child with Autism, or friends that have any of the different
spectrums (that visit often) you don't need florescent lighting in your
home. It is not good for them.



(I haven't been getting all of my digests from the group lately, and I
haven't been to the site to get caught up - so I'm just jumping in on the
thread without knowing what all that has been said.)

In Christ,

Ava



<<<<<<<<<<<<


Mercury is a naturally occurring element so your statement is simply not

true unless you believe that we should eliminate the element Hg from the

planet.

While I am not a "screw the environment" type of person I am also not a

"henny penny" reactionary type either. According to the EPA you will be just

fine tossing those old fluorescents. I personally wouldn't break them up due

to the possibility of inhalation. If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy to

recycle them knock yourself out but your local dump won't become a superfund

site if you dispose of them in accordance with the guidelines.



Randall



On Nov 15, 2007 5:36 PM, Mike Gordon wrote:



> Any Mercury in the landfill no matter how small is too much.>>>>>>>>>>>>>



In Christ,

Ava Miller



My words are my own. Please do not copy, paste, modify, or forward them
without my permission.

Jennifer Boyer on sun 18 nov 07


I would call a lighting store: the kind that specializes in fixtures.
They probably sell fluorescents and may take care of recycling them.
Jennifer
On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Kathy Forer wrote:

> On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg wrote:
>>
>> Do do not want to break them and throw them in the garbage. I
>> thought that
>> fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not want to contaminate by
>> area with
>> mercury.
>> I need help, any ideas?????
>
> It's much easier to recycle CFLs (compact fluorescent bulbs) but
> there's probably a place nearby that takes regular fluorescent bulbs.
> Both Ikea and Whole Foods have recycling bins. If neither is nearby,
> try http://www.recycleabulb.com/ for CFLs, earth911.org or http://
> www.nema.org/lamprecycle/recyclers.html

*****************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
*****************************

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 20 nov 07


Hi Edouard, all,




Well...you know sometimes people who like to fuss with old Tools, would find
those cool looking Beryllium-Alloy ( 'No Spark' ) Oil Field Wrenches,
Stilson Wrenches, Hammers and so on, and walk over to the Stationary Belt
Sander with a 'fine' Belt on it, to deftly grind down some of the proud
nicks and dings and so on...


Then, end up not feeling so good...


Actually, the penalty for doing this was often fatal...even to aspirate a
tiny bit of the smaller airborne particles, is enough to do you in.


Mother of Pearl is very 'bad' in this way also, if on a differing Chemical
basis...and one would hardly have thought it to be so on general knowledge
or appearance.


Sad...so innocent an error of judgement, can be so serious in consequence
sometimes...



Phil
l v


----- Original Message -----
From: "Edouard Bastarache Inc."


> Good thing they do not contained beryllium
> anymore.
> Its exposure limit is now 0.00015 mg/m3 up here.
> It is also a confirmed carcinogen in humans.
>
>
> Gis la revido,
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
> http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/Welcome.html
> http://perso.orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
> http://www.pshcanada.com/Toxicology.htm
> http://www.ceramique.com/librairie/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randall Moody"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: recycle
>
>
>> Sorry to disagree but they do not meet the
>> requirements of "hazardous
>> waste".
>>
>> In most states, fluorescent and compact
>> fluorescent light bulbs used at home
>> can be disposed of in the same way as regular
>> light bulbs. While all
>> fluorescent bulbs contain a trace amount of
>> mercury, the quantity is so
>> minute that household disposal is not regulated
>> by federal standards
>> (established by the U.S. Environmental
>> Protection Agency).
>>
>> However, if you are disposing many fluorescent
>> lamps you should know that
>> because they contain mercury they are classified
>> as hazardous waste unless:
>>
>> 1. You, as the end user, generate less than
>> 100kg (that is about 220lbs of
>> mercury in this case) of hazardous waste per
>> month (approx. 360 4' T12
>> lamps)
>> 2. The lamps pass the EPA Toxicity
>> Characteristic Leaching Procedure (TCLP)
>> Test
>> .
>>
>> If the lamps meet these criteria and your
>> state's regulation on TCLP is not
>> stricter than the EPA's regulation, the lamps
>> can be disposed of the same
>> way as normal waste. However, if the lamps do
>> not meet the criteria to be
>> classified as normal waste, they will need to be
>> either recycled by a lamp
>> recycler or disposed under the hazardous waste
>> guidelines of your state.
>> Randall in Atlanta
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2007 7:09 PM, Ingeborg Foco
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> You are correct, they contain mercury and it is
>>> the worst thing to do;
>>> they
>>> are hazardous waste. We finally have recycling
>>> for hazardous waste but
>>> unfortunately, one has to save up the goods for
>>> the day they are accepting
>>> hazardous waste; it is only every 5 or six
>>> months. Then we have to drive
>>> to
>>> the place within a certain time period and drop
>>> the stuff off. It is not
>>> convenient but we do it. I suspect most people
>>> just throw them into the
>>> garbage.
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Ingeborg
>>> www.thepottersworkshop.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2007 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent
>>> > light bulbs.. Of course they
>>> > are
>>> > great for the light but when I have to
>>> > replace them I havent found a
>>> place
>>> >
>>> > that will recycle them. I called the recycle
>>> > place in Chattanooga Tenn
>>> and
>>> > they
>>> > say just break them up and put them in the
>>> > garbage. The local
>>> > dump/recycle
>>> > has the same answer.
>>> >
>>> > Do do not want to break them and throw them
>>> > in the garbage. I thought
>>> that
>>> >
>>> > fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not
>>> > want to contaminate by area
>>> with
>>> > mercury.
>>> > I need help, any ideas?????
>>> >
>>> > I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> > Lookoutmountainpottery.com
>>> >
>>> > Rising Fawn Georgia
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Fredrick Paget on thu 22 nov 07


Yes , beryllium is very bad stuff. I used to work for GTE Sylvania
which was the successor to Hygrade Sylvania. We still had a group of
workers on permanent payroll who were disabled by beryllium at
Hygrade. It was being tried as a fluorescent lamp phosphor. They
could no longer work but were kept on the payroll until they died. I
don't know much about it because I went to work there long after the
incident. Of course there is no beryllium in present day lamps. To
bad it is so poison as there are a lot of other good things about it.
A thin ceramic insulator made with beryllium oxide is an outstanding
heat conductor - as good as aluminum metal but an insulator; so I
have heard of that ceramic being used as an insulator wafer under
power semiconductors.
Fred

>Hi Edouard, all,
>
>
>
>
>Well...you know sometimes people who like to fuss with old Tools, would find
>those cool looking Beryllium-Alloy ( 'No Spark' ) Oil Field Wrenches,
>Stilson Wrenches, Hammers and so on, and walk over to the Stationary Belt
>Sander with a 'fine' Belt on it, to deftly grind down some of the proud
>nicks and dings and so on...
>
>
>Then, end up not feeling so good...
>
>
>Actually, the penalty for doing this was often fatal...even to aspirate a
>tiny bit of the smaller airborne particles, is enough to do you in.
>
>
>Mother of Pearl is very 'bad' in this way also, if on a differing Chemical
>basis...and one would hardly have thought it to be so on general knowledge
>or appearance.
>
>
>Sad...so innocent an error of judgement, can be so serious in consequence
>sometimes...
>
>
>
>Phil
>l v
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Edouard Bastarache Inc."
>
>
>> Good thing they do not contained beryllium
>> anymore.
>> Its exposure limit is now 0.00015 mg/m3 up here.
>> It is also a confirmed carcinogen in humans.
>>
>>
>> Gis la revido,
>>
>> Edouard Bastarache
>> Spertesperantisto
>>
>> Sorel-Tracy
>> Quebec
>> http://www.sorel-tracy.qc.ca/~edouardb/Welcome.html
>> http://perso.orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
>> http://www.pshcanada.com/Toxicology.htm
>> http://www.ceramique.com/librairie/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
>> http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Randall Moody"
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: recycle
>>
>>
>>> Sorry to disagree but they do not meet the
>>> requirements of "hazardous
>>> waste".
>>>
>>> In most states, fluorescent and compact
>>> fluorescent light bulbs used at home
>>> can be disposed of in the same way as regular
>>> light bulbs. While all
>>> fluorescent bulbs contain a trace amount of
>>> mercury, the quantity is so
>>> minute that household disposal is not regulated
>>> by federal standards
>>> (established by the U.S. Environmental
>>> Protection Agency).
>>>
>>> However, if you are disposing many fluorescent
>>> lamps you should know that
>>> because they contain mercury they are classified
>>> as hazardous waste unless:
>>>
>>> 1. You, as the end user, generate less than
>>> 100kg (that is about 220lbs of
>>> mercury in this case) of hazardous waste per
>>> month (approx. 360 4' T12
>>> lamps)
>>> 2. The lamps pass the EPA Toxicity
>>> Characteristic Leaching Procedure (TCLP)
>>>
>>>Test
>>> .
>>>
>>> If the lamps meet these criteria and your
>>> state's regulation on TCLP is not
>>> stricter than the EPA's regulation, the lamps
>>> can be disposed of the same
> >> way as normal waste. However, if the lamps do
> >> not meet the criteria to be
> >> classified as normal waste, they will need to be
> >> either recycled by a lamp
> >> recycler or disposed under the hazardous waste
>>> guidelines of your state.
>>> Randall in Atlanta
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2007 7:09 PM, Ingeborg Foco
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> You are correct, they contain mercury and it is
>>>> the worst thing to do;
>>>> they
>>>> are hazardous waste. We finally have recycling
> >>> for hazardous waste but
>>>> unfortunately, one has to save up the goods for
>>>> the day they are accepting
>>>> hazardous waste; it is only every 5 or six
>>>> months. Then we have to drive
>>>> to
>>>> the place within a certain time period and drop
>>>> the stuff off. It is not
>>>> convenient but we do it. I suspect most people
>>>> just throw them into the
>>>> garbage.
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Ingeborg
>>>> www.thepottersworkshop.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 14, 2007 8:43 AM, Mark Issenberg
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > In my shop/studio I have 8 foot fluorescent
>>>> > light bulbs.. Of course they
>>>> > are
>>>> > great for the light but when I have to
>>>> > replace them I havent found a
>>>> place
>>>> >
>>>> > that will recycle them. I called the recycle
>>>> > place in Chattanooga Tenn
>>>> and
>>>> > they
>>>> > say just break them up and put them in the
>>>> > garbage. The local
>>>> > dump/recycle
>>>> > has the same answer.
>>>> >
>>>> > Do do not want to break them and throw them
>>>> > in the garbage. I thought
>>>> that
>>>> >
>>>> > fluorescent bulbs have mercury . I do not
>>>> > want to contaminate by area
>>>> with
>>>> > mercury.
>>>> > I need help, any ideas?????
>>>> >
>>>> > I have 6 of these 8 foot bulbs to deal with..
>>>> >
>>>> > Mark
>>>> > Lookoutmountainpottery.com
>>>> >
>>>> > Rising Fawn Georgia
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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