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messy students, messed up glazes

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Digital Studio on sat 10 nov 07


Would anyone be interested in me doing a work study photo post? I could
put photos of me mixing and photos of how our studio is set up. To me,
it's interesting to learn how other people do things in their studios.
-Kendra


Lili Krakowski wrote:
> A few days ago there was a sad post about students on a work program--no
> idea how that works, what it is--messing up glaze buckets.
>
> My own experience with that--at the Gibbes Museum Studio, which was
> purely
> recreational--i.e. no grades--led to some modifications we teachers
> agreed
> upon.
>
> EVERYTHING was color coded, as close as we could get. We painted the
> buckets, we attached tags which we made from Formica and similar chip
> samples from the paint store...(asked and it was given) and we gave the
> students a participatory feeling (learned at Lee Center) by putting the
> recipe on the bucket.
>
> We also gave a glaze demonstration AT THE BEGINNING of the "terms". Too
> many places wait till the last moment, when everyone and everything is
> in a
> hurry. The demonstration emphasized the need to be orderly, and
> careful....and that glazing takes twice as long as making the pot...at
> least
> twice as long....People assume somehow that it is quick and easy, once
> overlightly. Glazing is like getting a furious two-year old into a
> snowsuit! And that on a good day!
>
> If I had my druthers--I would lock up all glazes, and make sure no one
> had
> access unless signed in. (When I worked in Westchester the glazes were
> kept
> in a pantry, and the lab tech--me--kept control of them.) I would make a
> specific sieve for each bucket, and color code that too, so that there
> would
> be less pollution from dirty sieves. And I would urge students
> to leave a little note next to their glaze pan if they leave the room
> while
> glazing...a note to identify which glaze is in that pan/bowl.
>
> Students by and large have NO idea how costly glazes are. Even the
> cheapest....As most people are aware that waste costs $, and that in
> their
> own studios it would be their own money they would waste, telling
> students
> about the cost might help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lili Krakowski
> Be of good courage
>
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Lili Krakowski on sat 10 nov 07


A few days ago there was a sad post about students on a work program--no
idea how that works, what it is--messing up glaze buckets.

My own experience with that--at the Gibbes Museum Studio, which was purely
recreational--i.e. no grades--led to some modifications we teachers agreed
upon.

EVERYTHING was color coded, as close as we could get. We painted the
buckets, we attached tags which we made from Formica and similar chip
samples from the paint store...(asked and it was given) and we gave the
students a participatory feeling (learned at Lee Center) by putting the
recipe on the bucket.

We also gave a glaze demonstration AT THE BEGINNING of the "terms". Too
many places wait till the last moment, when everyone and everything is in a
hurry. The demonstration emphasized the need to be orderly, and
careful....and that glazing takes twice as long as making the pot...at least
twice as long....People assume somehow that it is quick and easy, once
overlightly. Glazing is like getting a furious two-year old into a
snowsuit! And that on a good day!

If I had my druthers--I would lock up all glazes, and make sure no one had
access unless signed in. (When I worked in Westchester the glazes were kept
in a pantry, and the lab tech--me--kept control of them.) I would make a
specific sieve for each bucket, and color code that too, so that there would
be less pollution from dirty sieves. And I would urge students
to leave a little note next to their glaze pan if they leave the room while
glazing...a note to identify which glaze is in that pan/bowl.

Students by and large have NO idea how costly glazes are. Even the
cheapest....As most people are aware that waste costs $, and that in their
own studios it would be their own money they would waste, telling students
about the cost might help.






Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage

Keba M Hitzeman on sun 11 nov 07


We just had an incident in the clay lab where someone was in a hurry (I
think he was from the sculpture lab next door - we share glazes with them),
grabbed the bucket with wet hands, and sploosh, there is now a 1/4 bucket of
raspberry glaze on the floor. Right in the high traffic glaze area (and
right at the end of the quarter when everyone is furiously glazing all of
their pieces that have been sitting on the bisque shelves).

In our lab, most of the lids are just set on top of the buckets - they don't
snap on or anything - which seems to be just asking for an accident like
this one to happen. Some of the larger buckets do have snap on lids, but if
you have to get a glaze from under the counter, better have both hands free.

We get an orientation on proper handling of the glaze buckets, but it
appears that our sculpture friends may not have.

Keba

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-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Lili Krakowski
Sent: Saturday, 10 November, 2007 10:40
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Messy students, messed up glazes

A few days ago there was a sad post about students on a work program--no
idea how that works, what it is--messing up glaze buckets.

My own experience with that--at the Gibbes Museum Studio, which was purely
recreational--i.e. no grades--led to some modifications we teachers agreed
upon.

EVERYTHING was color coded, as close as we could get. We painted the
buckets, we attached tags which we made from Formica and similar chip
samples from the paint store...(asked and it was given) and we gave the
students a participatory feeling (learned at Lee Center) by putting the
recipe on the bucket.

We also gave a glaze demonstration AT THE BEGINNING of the "terms". Too
many places wait till the last moment, when everyone and everything is in a
hurry. The demonstration emphasized the need to be orderly, and
careful....and that glazing takes twice as long as making the pot...at least
twice as long....People assume somehow that it is quick and easy, once
overlightly. Glazing is like getting a furious two-year old into a
snowsuit! And that on a good day!

If I had my druthers--I would lock up all glazes, and make sure no one had
access unless signed in. (When I worked in Westchester the glazes were kept
in a pantry, and the lab tech--me--kept control of them.) I would make a
specific sieve for each bucket, and color code that too, so that there would
be less pollution from dirty sieves. And I would urge students
to leave a little note next to their glaze pan if they leave the room while
glazing...a note to identify which glaze is in that pan/bowl.

Students by and large have NO idea how costly glazes are. Even the
cheapest....As most people are aware that waste costs $, and that in their
own studios it would be their own money they would waste, telling students
about the cost might help.






Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage

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