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on referencing one's work

updated wed 7 nov 07

 

Tom at Hutchtel.net on mon 5 nov 07


Hi gay

I have posted this before on Clayart, but it bears repeating since the forum
is always in flux. A number of years ago I took a workshop with Donovan
Palmquist (yes he's an excellent potter as well as kiln builder). One of
the exercises he put us through was to take an item we normally didn't
throw. Then throw every variation of that item we could imagine.

Now we had to start comparing them in pairs, picking the one we liked best.
Then we had to define why we liked it best. Why, why, why. Because the
first answer was rarely the real why. finally you get down to the one piece
you like best and the reason(s) why. Now you're getting close to your
references, I think. And yes, I suppose this is the genesis of an artist's
statement.

Make more pots.

Tom Wirt
Hutchinson, MN
twirt@hutchtel.net
www.claycoyote.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gay Judson"
Subject: on referencing one's work


> Reference of/for one's work first came to my attention a short while back
> in
> comments on Clayart. Then Tom asked Tony if he could/would provide
> references for his new work. That got me really wondering...Are potters
> aware of the reference for their work? Is is something one might find in
> an
> artist statement? Such as, "My work is a reflection of my love of
> nature."
> Is it a conscious starting point for the work. Or is it more likely to be
> identified or commented on by someone else observing a collection of a
> potter's work? It is an intriguing idea to me, I'd love to hear thoughts
> on
> this from others. Is this an academic notion? Is it the same as or
> different from 'influence' on one's work? Gay
>

Gay Judson on mon 5 nov 07


Reference of/for one's work first came to my attention a short while back in
comments on Clayart. Then Tom asked Tony if he could/would provide
references for his new work. That got me really wondering...Are potters
aware of the reference for their work? Is is something one might find in an
artist statement? Such as, "My work is a reflection of my love of nature."
Is it a conscious starting point for the work. Or is it more likely to be
identified or commented on by someone else observing a collection of a
potter's work? It is an intriguing idea to me, I'd love to hear thoughts on
this from others. Is this an academic notion? Is it the same as or
different from 'influence' on one's work? Gay

Overall's on tue 6 nov 07


Hi Tom;

I read your post to Gay before I saw your reply on form and I agree with your
reasoning.

This process of application and examination in order to mine what is within each
of us to fine tune our 'style' (and "genesis of our artist statement"!) I like that.
It is not new, and it does help to remind us often. Just as we observe something of beauty in nature, words of inspiration and direction we never tire of. THANKS!

Tom's previous reply post to Gay Judson...: "I have posted this before on Clayart, but it bears repeating since the forum
is always in flux. A number of years ago I took a workshop with Donovan
Palmquist (yes he's an excellent potter as well as kiln builder). One of
the exercises he put us through was to take an item we normally didn't
throw. Then throw every variation of that item we could imagine.

Now we had to start comparing them in pairs, picking the one we liked best.
Then we had to define why we liked it best. Why, why, why. Because the
first answer was rarely the real why. finally you get down to the one piece
you like best and the reason(s) why. Now you're getting close to your
references, I think. And yes, I suppose this is the genesis of an artist's
statement."

"Make more pots." [THIS TOO ESPECIALLY!!!]

Tom Wirt
Hutchinson, MN
twirt@hutchtel. net
www.claycoyote. com

Kim Overall
http://www.kimoverall.com

Lee Love on tue 6 nov 07


It is good to "reference." Then you are just being influenced.

If you don't reference, if you don't acknowledge whose work
you are influenced by, then you are just stealing.

Attribution is important. Borrow, but attribute!

--
Lee in Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by
education." -- Bertrand Russell

Maggie Jones on tue 6 nov 07


so where does inspiration fit in with this equation?

maggie


On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:16:33 -0600 Lee Love
writes:


> It is good to "reference." Then you are just being influenced.
>
> If you don't reference, if you don't acknowledge whose work
> you are influenced by, then you are just stealing.
>
> Attribution is important. Borrow, but attribute!
>
> --
> Lee in Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
>
> "Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by
> education." -- Bertrand Russell
>
>
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