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spodumene help

updated mon 22 oct 07

 

Donna Kat on sun 21 oct 07


I have two buckets of Spodumene. One is bright white, the other dull
gray. Can anyone give me additional information on this? I know that
spodumene changed a while back in the U.S. but I do not know anything
beyond that. I'm worried about messing up a good glaze and I can't
remember which I used previously. Donna

Dan Semler on mon 22 oct 07


Hi Donna,

If the bright white one sparkles in sunlight it likely Aussie spod.
The other I assume is Tanko or something like that, assuming its not
talc.

Thx
D

Hank Murrow on mon 22 oct 07


On Oct 21, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Donna Kat wrote:

> I have two buckets of Spodumene. One is bright white, the other dull
> gray. Can anyone give me additional information on this? I know that
> spodumene changed a while back in the U.S. but I do not know anything
> beyond that. I'm worried about messing up a good glaze and I can't
> remember which I used previously. Donna

Dear Donna;

Why don't you take a thimble and pack it with a sample of each
material and carefully tip the samples onto a piece of bisque and
fire them to your glaze temperature? You will likely see a difference
and can proceed as need dictates then.

Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank

threereeds1 on mon 22 oct 07


Donna,

I would gladly trade my new Australian white shiny for your old powdery
gray.
Needs to be enough to make it worthwhile. smiles.

Best,
Tom King

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Spodumene help


>I have two buckets of Spodumene. One is bright white, the other dull
> gray. Can anyone give me additional information on this? I know that
> spodumene changed a while back in the U.S. but I do not know anything
> beyond that. I'm worried about messing up a good glaze and I can't
> remember which I used previously. Donna
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Bill Merrill on mon 22 oct 07


Hank,

One spodumene may be low iron and the other have iron in it. Make a
fusion button of each of them. One may expand 2-3 times and be orange
after firing to c/9-10. The other may be white and not expand as much.
I still use the Foote mineral spodimene which I can't find anymore. I
always liked the oranger of the two especially in "shino" glazes.

Bill Merrrill billm@pcadmin.ctc.edu



-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Hank Murrow
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:22 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Spodumene help

On Oct 21, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Donna Kat wrote:

> I have two buckets of Spodumene. One is bright white, the other dull
> gray. Can anyone give me additional information on this? I know that
> spodumene changed a while back in the U.S. but I do not know anything
> beyond that. I'm worried about messing up a good glaze and I can't
> remember which I used previously. Donna

Dear Donna;

Why don't you take a thimble and pack it with a sample of each
material and carefully tip the samples onto a piece of bisque and
fire them to your glaze temperature? You will likely see a difference
and can proceed as need dictates then.

Cheers, Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank

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Hank Murrow on mon 22 oct 07


On Oct 22, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Bill Merrill wrote:

> Hank,
>
> One spodumene may be low iron and the other have iron in it. Make a
> fusion button of each of them. One may expand 2-3 times and be orange
> after firing to c/9-10. The other may be white and not expand as
> much.
> I still use the Foote mineral spodimene which I can't find anymore. I
> always liked the oranger of the two especially in "shino" glazes.

Dear Bill;

Though it was not me that asked about the two Spodumene's, the
'thimble test'(fusion button) is almost as good as the 'assay cup'
test which I use to help identify materials and the differences
between them. I went through my supplies of "Spodumene" some years
ago and found that I had three kinds... light, medium, and dark; so I
separated them into three barrels for use as occasion and glaze and
clay suggested. For example, I use the TANCO Low Melt Spodumene for
my Shinos because the phosphorus content gives richer reds........
some are actually bloody. I use the 'dirty' Foote Spodumene(old
stock) for a couple of glazes that 'need' the slight contamination to
become lively. I have several 'bags' of Foote....... enough to last
me the remaining (possible) 20 years of working. can't ever think of
moving this studio now!

Cheers! Hank
www.murrow.biz/hank